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Street Fighter V Roster Discussion |Thread 2| Deal with it & place your hope for DLC

Trying to play Ultra on PS4 and it's balls. Hardly able to get a game and when I do it's against bad connections - I wanted to try my wired connection!

Hurry up Street Fighter V :(
 

KAL2006

Banned
Hmm alright I can see that happening , a sort of Street Fighter through the years thing along with some DLC story.

But I think they will throw in Sagat as SF1. Sagat vs Ryu is like the most memorable aspect of SF1. And it would be badass to start the 30th anniversary with that.

Then for SF2. Honestly after what they did with Birdie , they can throw in who ever they want and it would be hype. Blanka,Honda. But I think it will be Fei , his style isnt represented yet.

That's a good idea actually. A 2nd mini story DLC with key points of SF series through the years

SF1 can be Ryu VS Sagat (Alternate Scarless Sagat and Red Hair Ryu costumes)
SFA can be Sakura VS Karin (schoolgirl alternate costumes)
SF2 can be whoever I guess, perhaps Blanka Vs Chunli for a throwback of the game cover lol
SF3 can be Dudley Vs Urien
SF4 can be C. Viper Vs Juri
 

Mediking

Member
I said this earlier but it's most likely that they haven't updated the site since the pre order bonuses were announced before the release date. I highly doubt they would give out pre order bonuses until almost two months after the game launches.

I hope that's true because waiting until late March for that sexy Cammy costume would hurt me... Don't let me down, Best Buy!
 
Pre-ordered mine today. The steelbook edition. I heard if you get this one it will give you access to any future DLC. Is it true?

Now just need to wait until the 16th. It's my first street fighter game since SF2 on the SNES! I'll be a little rusty but I plan to sink a lot of time in this one.
 
It's not the PSX build and they're just letting Momo and Kazunoko play FANG because of reasons?

Momochi and Kazunoko have been on Capcom Japan's stream a couple of times to show off the game. Momochi and Fuudo were doing promotional videos for SFV. So they've been helping Capcom show off the game all over Asia.

Capcom probably just wants to save something (Fang) for launch day.
 

Raitaro

Member
No.

Avatar quote me if you must, but no.

EDIT: To give a reason why my answer is no, doing this is making a character into a joke character for no other reason than 'why not'. Sean might not be the highest of tiers in 3S, but to reduce to him a joke character on the same level of Dan is a complete waste of a character. Dan is a joke because he's a joke of a fighter. Sean is low tier because he is a student in-training. There's a big difference.

This is a terrible idea. Sean might be about low teir as a charecter can get in 3S, but he's no joke charecter.

And speaking of which, Dan should never come back.

Just because you don't like something, or in this case focus too much on the "joke character" part (which admittedly might be bad wording on my part) doesn't mean it is a terrible idea without any merit guys.

Forget about the joke / parody / Dan part then, but focus on Sean being a student of different martial arts masters in each game. Wouldn't that at least be interesting and give his comical mix-n-match fighting style in III some context? I mean, in III he already has chosen to not follow in his sister / family's Matsuda style Jiu Jitsu as we now know, bar a few moves perhaps, so I think it wouldn't be a stretch to interpret him as a wandering Ryu type guy, but on a quest to learn new styles and train under different masters instead of solely testing his might. Sagat would be more than ready to start training someone at this stage, so why not him? Heck, he can keep the bald head to himself if that's going too far.

Let's keep it friendly people, it's all just friendly discussion!

And to be clear: I do like Sean and would like to see him come back whether he is Ken's pupil again or doing his own (family) thing still. To me, he just seems one of the more interesting and especially open characters in terms of potential story / fighting style development, hence my idea to have him change things up in terms of masters / fighting styles from now on between games.
 

Raitaro

Member

Thanks for your insightful response! I gather you are opposed to any changes then? Sean ones at least?

Edit: I'm trying to bait a fight here, but come on people, at least give a reason for being against something to honor the fact that someone (me in this case) did actually put some thought in it.
 

V_Arnold

Member
I would be really happy if Viper made into S2, that is all.
I am already happy though that Alex, Ibuki and Urien will make it in.
Urien and Alex are the two characters that I liked playing in Sf3:3rd, and Ibuki was my main beside Viper and Rose in SSFIV+.
 
Forget about the joke / parody / Dan part then, but focus on Sean being a student of different martial arts masters in each game. Wouldn't that at least be interesting and give his comical mix-n-match fighting style in III some context?

Although there are characters I don't really want to see re-added (example: Decarpe, Evil Ryu, Dan, Oni, Rufus, Seth) I am actually open to any character returning. As long as they are not a clone of anyone else (ie. Seth, Decarpe) and are not a weaker/joke fighter. We only have 16 slots on launch, each character added should be viable, fresh, offering a different play style with some unique V-skills. I want variety, not shoto clones taking up a slot in the already small roster. So if they get a re-design sure that's awesome - I'm down.

Honestly I would prefer following the SF3 roster in that SFV Season 2 should offer 6 brand new characters to the franchise. Firstly that's not going to happen because of Capcom's goals this year to bring as much visibility, attraction and popularity to the franchise as possible and pushing tournaments and e-sports etc. They need to please the crowd by bringing people's favorites back in. Secondly, they learned that strategy didn't go so well in SF3 since the public player base weren't really attracted to so many fresh and unfamiliar faces. Only the hardcore players were interested in learning the mechanics of the new character designs and found they were well executed and viable.
 

Mechazawa

Member
Thanks for your insightful response! I gather you are opposed to any changes then? Sean ones at least?

Edit: I'm trying to bait a fight here, but come on people, at least give a reason for being against something to honor the fact that someone (me in this case) did actually put some thought in it.

Okay, here's a reason: I like Sean's moveset and style. He benefits from being a "proto-shoto" because it gives his moveset a semi-familiar, but unique flavor(that ultimately ends up being more interesting than the actual shotos)

Your "he should be a different person's pupil!" thing undoes both which is completely lame. Take the gi off him if you want, but if Sean comes to SFV, I better be groundpounding and raise-the-roof uppercutting some motherfuckers. I don't want none of this Tiger Knee business bolted onto him and those dreads certainly better not go anywhere.
 

GorillaJu

Member
I'm curious—for KI players, does the constantly inflating roster detract from the game's balance? Doesn't it make the game more intimidating to jump into given that it requires more matchup knowledge?
 

iluvgames

Banned
Approximate prices for an individual DLC character in Street Fighter 5 were recently given out by Capcom's Matt Dahlgren.

Speaking with Venture Beat, Dahlgren said that individual characters will cost around $6 USD (600 zenny) and premium costumes will run about $4 USD (400 zenny) apiece.

You can compare this with the season pass of Street Fighter 5, which includes all 6 initial DLC characters and a premium costume for each of those fighters, priced at $29.99 USD.

All content that impacts gameplay can be earned with Fight Money

If you're worried that content that will impact the game's balance will be hidden behind a paywall with no other way to open it up — that's not the case.

"Some costumes will be available to earn with just Fight Money, some costumes will be available just for zenny, but anything that could affect the outcome of a match needs to be earnable with Fight Money," said Dahlgren.

But how much time will it take?

Giving a ballpark idea of how much time you'll have to put in to unlock the first character, Capcom said that getting enough Fight Money for an initial DLC fighter will be pretty easy.

"In the beginning there's definitely a large influx of Fight Money through all of the single-player content. It should be relatively easy for players to earn a new character in that first month," Dahlgren said.

"In the long term, it depends on the player's skill, but we're trying to make a system that's fair and balanced to reward players of all types. We don't want to make it too grind-heavy on top of that. That's part of the reason we developed the daily challenges. It's supposed to be about remaining engaged.

"If you log in on a daily basis, or every other day, and complete the challenges, you should be able to get the new characters as they come out," Dahlgren concluded.
 

Scotia

Banned
Just because you don't like something, or in this case focus too much on the "joke character" part (which admittedly might be bad wording on my part) doesn't mean it is a terrible idea without any merit guys.

In some cases it kinda does though.

Forget about the joke / parody / Dan part then, but focus on Sean being a student of different martial arts masters in each game. Wouldn't that at least be interesting and give his comical mix-n-match fighting style in III some context?

From a gameplay point-of-view, changing a character's fighting style for the sake of changing them never works out. Besides, no one (that I recall) in Street Fighter has ever drastically changed in terms of fighting style so why start now with Sean. Also, how is his fighting style in SF3 'comical'? The reason it's so mix-and-match is because he's in training and I assume he's transitioning between fighting styles (Matsuda Jiu-Jitsu and Ken's Shoto-style).

I mean, in III he already has chosen to not follow in his sister / family's Matsuda style Jiu Jitsu as we now know, bar a few moves perhaps, so I think it wouldn't be a stretch to interpret him as a wandering Ryu type guy, but on a quest to learn new styles and train under different masters instead of solely testing his might. Sagat would be more than ready to start training someone at this stage, so why not him? Heck, he can keep the bald head to himself if that's going too far.

From a story point-of-view, it is made very clear that Sean only wants to train under Ken and no one else. The fact he manages to find Ryu and fight him just to impress Ken (and not train under Ryu) kinda proves that Sean wants no one other than Ken to be his teacher. Making him a Ryu-type wanderer is a complete change of character that is utterly pointless when we already have a character in Ryu who currently has this storyline.

Let's keep it friendly people, it's all just friendly discussion!

None of the replies I've seen so far have been overtly hostile, so we are keeping it friendly.

And to be clear: I do like Sean and would like to see him come back whether he is Ken's pupil again or doing his own (family) thing still. To me, he just seems one of the more interesting and especially open characters in terms of potential story / fighting style development, hence my idea to have him change things up in terms of masters / fighting styles from now on between games.

Sean's only been in the SF3 series, so he's hardly had any chance to develop other than a student. It'd be weird for any character to be gone for so long only to come back and change drastically. All in all, I think this discussion should come around again if Sean ever comes back. Maybe then we can see where his story is taking him and discuss what should happen to him.
 

cackhyena

Member
I'm only reading the past few posts, but wouldn't Sean be less skilled than what he is in 3 of they introduced him here? This takes place before 3.
 

Rocwell

Member
I'm a Sean advocate, I think he has a chance to be a fun rushdown/mixup shoto in SFV. Raining down jumpers and dunking fools all day.
 

Scotia

Banned
I'm only reading the past few posts, but wouldn't Sean be less skilled than what he is in 3 of they introduced him here? This takes place before 3.

This is a fair point. If Sean was to be playable early on in SFV's DLC lineup then I'd imagine he'd play more like Laura, but if they continue expanding the story with each DLC season then I can see Sean starting to train with Ken. I mean, we see Ken in Brazil in the cinematic story trailer so we might see Ken and Sean meet each other for the first time.

Man time starting to feel so slow .
Can't wait to jump back in .
Also i hope capcom does not take to long with the DLC characters .

It's confrimed that the first DLC character is coming out in March.
 

Skilletor

Member
If the first dlc character is March, and they're going to come out every two months after that would be:

March
May
July
September
November
January

Going to suck if the Capcup doesn't have all of the "season 1 characters." :/

S2 would have the same release schedule if the last S1 character is January. Hopefully they can speed it up just a bit without sacrificing balance and quality.
 
If the first dlc character is March, and they're going to come out every two months after that would be:

March
May
July
September
November
January

Going to suck if the Capcup doesn't have all of the "season 1 characters." :/

S2 would have the same release schedule if the last S1 character is January. Hopefully they can speed it up just a bit without sacrificing balance and quality.

My hope is that they'd come out maybe one a month for six months, then the meta has a few months to settle, we get CapCup with all of 'season 1', and then at CapCup they announce the line up for season 2 and probably the date for its first character. This might be a little optimistic timeline wise, but I like the idea of six months on with updates and changes regularly, six months off for the metagame to settle and for tech to develop - this is more or less how KI does it, and it's good.
 

Scotia

Banned
If the first dlc character is March, and they're going to come out every two months after that would be:

March
May
July
September
November
January

Going to suck if the Capcup doesn't have all of the "season 1 characters." :/

S2 would have the same release schedule if the last S1 character is January. Hopefully they can speed it up just a bit without sacrificing balance and quality.

They could always have two characters come out a month apart.
 
Don't get hooked up on the 2-month dates being exact. They could be shorter or longer! Would be weird to have a character added just before Capcom Cup. Hopefully they make it consistent so that Capcom Cup marks the end of the 'season' and all characters have been added before then. Then they could present the next seasons characters and updates for the new year ahead etc.
 
Trying to play Ultra on PS4 and it's balls. Hardly able to get a game and when I do it's against bad connections - I wanted to try my wired connection!

Hurry up Street Fighter V :(

Same deal with Steam. They just came out too late in the game and everybody already has it on PS360 and are fine with those versions.
 
If the first dlc character is March, and they're going to come out every two months after that would be:

March
May
July
September
November
January

Going to suck if the Capcup doesn't have all of the "season 1 characters." :/

S2 would have the same release schedule if the last S1 character is January. Hopefully they can speed it up just a bit without sacrificing balance and quality.

Hopefully they are faster than that .
It would suck if all the characters not out by CC time for people to play .
 

pizzacat

Banned
If the first dlc character is March, and they're going to come out every two months after that would be:

March
May
July
September
November
January

Going to suck if the Capcup doesn't have all of the "season 1 characters." :/

S2 would have the same release schedule if the last S1 character is January. Hopefully they can speed it up just a bit without sacrificing balance and quality.
Just realized Urien is probably 2017


:(

It's totally whatever, if they start up season 2 right after 1 that would be insane
 
Are there any characters that might work better on pad?

Honestly Gief and Birdie are good contenders because they are slower characters and don't require that high of apm/inputs. Their combos and tricks aren't too demanding technical wise... less work for high damage. But which is "better" on pad is up to preference.
 

Scotia

Banned
Not sure if it's been posted yet, but I was looking at SFV on GAME and I found the full roster image with FANG included:

SFV-Tournament.png
 
If the first dlc character is March, and they're going to come out every two months after that would be:

March
May
July
September
November
January

Going to suck if the Capcup doesn't have all of the "season 1 characters." :/

S2 would have the same release schedule if the last S1 character is January. Hopefully they can speed it up just a bit without sacrificing balance and quality.
I'm going to be surprised if the first DLC character isn't out shortly after release.
 

TacosNSalsa

Member
If the first dlc character is March, and they're going to come out every two months after that would be:

March
May
July
September
November
January

Going to suck if the Capcup doesn't have all of the "season 1 characters." :/

S2 would have the same release schedule if the last S1 character is January. Hopefully they can speed it up just a bit without sacrificing balance and quality.
With a release schedule like that I wonder how TOs are going to handle the new characters
 
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