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[Protann]

I'm all in on the Tactus theory. If you don't know what that Tactus is, it's this- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4eh-Cn3Pzk

Tactus was first unveiled in June 2012, and had a presence at CES in early 2013 and hasn't released anything or really done anything since then. Nintendo dropped 100 Million dollars on an unknown tech acquisition in late 2013. Iwata himself talked about how you can't play traditional games like Mario well on a touchscreen when Nintendo first talked about going mobile. Tactus tech being part of the controller is really the only thing that would make this make any sense.

 

[The Abominable Snowman]

I'm pretty sure he means to get his work covered

I'm glad you guys are super close to have this kind of ESP lol

 

[Neff]

Now, here's the grand conspiracy: what if the two leaks we've witnessed are not two separate incidents, but the doings of the same person.

The only way these pics could be fake is if they were in fact the work or the same person (because they're more or less identical), or people working together. And I believe they are.

It's incredibly elaborate and a lot of trouble to go to just for attention and luls, but no more than you see for similar tech hoaxes, for the same reasons. The superimposed image of the UE4 demo sans perspective correction is a dead giveaway, and the general air of convenience and contrivance is palpable.

 

[reelbigtink]

Because he is working on Zelda U.

Aonuma is the leaker? This is getting good.

 

[MK_768]

You really wouldn't make a fake leak if you had the ability too? That would be fun as hell.

I would. Look at all the bloviating and overreaction. It'd be hysterical since the point of it is to troll.

 

[BY2K]

Aonuma is the leaker? This is getting good.

HORSES DON'T RUN INTO TREES VERY OFTEN.

THE TREES

SHIT

 

[Doctre81]

an NX would most likely not be just sitting at your home.

That's clearly an office.

 

[Somnid]

I'm all in on the Tactus theory. If you don't know what that Tactus is, it's this- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4eh-Cn3Pzk

Tactus was first unveiled in June 2012, and had a presence at CES in early 2013 and hasn't released anything or really done anything since then. Nintendo dropped 100 Million dollars on an unknown tech acquisition in late 2013. Iwata himself talked about how you can't play traditional games like Mario well on a touchscreen when Nintendo first talked about going mobile. Tactus tech being part of the controller is really the only thing that would make this make any sense.

If they were going to use this tech it would probably already be in this version as that's pretty important but there is no indication of that.

 

[notaskwid]

HORSES DON'T RUN INTO TREES VERY OFTEN.

THE TREES

SHIT

LOL

 

[Aequitas]

I would be down for the controller if the Tactus technology conspiracy is true.

 

[trutrutru]

wtf?

Now don't look at my exact marks, didn't have time to get the proper lines in. But you get the point.

When you put your thumb on those two sticks, the corners are practically hard to see.

This whole design makes no sense.

Fail example. Those boxes you created extend beyond the joystick on the bottom corners closest to the middle. Your thumbs wouldnt occupy that space. Also if the buttons are touch screen then why wouldnt the screen extend that far out.

All of the relevant screen real estate will be somewhere between the joysticks, with the rest being for touch buttons / peripheral non important image rendering.

 

[-Horizon-]

I'm all in on the Tactus theory. If you don't know what that Tactus is, it's this- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4eh-Cn3Pzk

Tactus was first unveiled in June 2012, and had a presence at CES in early 2013 and hasn't released anything or really done anything since then. Nintendo dropped 100 Million dollars on an unknown tech acquisition in late 2013. Iwata himself talked about how you can't play traditional games like Mario well on a touchscreen when Nintendo first talked about going mobile. Tactus tech being part of the controller is really the only thing that would make this make any sense.

I actually didn't know they spent that much money on some mysterious thing in 2013. Interesting news to me.

 

[NESpowerhouse]

Couldn't these just be really good 3D renders? It would be much easier than physically building a model.

Can we just add a #TeamCG sub-section to #TeamFake now?

 

[MilkBeard]

Here's an example of what screens look like with light on them. I know that at some angles they can appear flat black, but in the image with the WiiU, we have an example side by side of a real and fake screen.

screens:

And now, this particular image from the OP:

Notice the WiiU screen, and the 'NX' screen. The light is even shining on the 'NX' at an angle, but it looks like there is no depth to the display. You see the color of the light itself, but not any parts of the display are lit up underneath the material. It doesn't really look like a screen at all, in fact, just a glossy black piece of material.

 

[UnemployedVillain]

If they were going to use this tech it would probably already be in this version as that's pretty important.

Well apparently none of these leakers can be arsed to show anything significant...no buttons, no games, aside from a UE4 demo without touching the device at all...it's all nonsense to me.

If you're going to leak why not show anything significant or new? They literally just showed something that anyone could have gleaned from looking at the patent

 

[NateDrake]

That's clearly an office.

Windows and a wood tabletop doesn't make the setting an office.

 

[BY2K]

Wouldn't the Tactus tech mean the controller is gonna give us another situation where the console is too expensive for what it is because the controller is expensive?

 

[DNAbro]

That's clearly an office.

that would throw some more doubt though right? why would this super secret device be next to an place in an office where you can play games?

 

[mariosbrother]

Would certainly be interesting. A game device without dedicated game buttons. I don't know what most people think (how could I?), but I prefer physical game buttons. If this is the main interface, it pretty much guarantees no 3rd party support because portability is once again an issue.

Secondly, it doesn't make sense given Nintendo's hardware philosophies. An oval screen with circle cutouts is more expensive than a standard rectangle, and Nintendo has rarely gone the route of more expensive hardware.

 

[jabberwocker]

Windows and a wood tabletop doesn't make the setting an office.

Yeah they could have 3d printed that too. As well as the tree.

 

[Ashodin]

I would love to see the back of the thing. That's the only thing keeping me from crossing over to #teamfake

 

[CarbonFire]

The meltdowns here are amazing. The Massive entertainment angle sounds legit enough, Ubisoft loves adopting new platforms afterall.

 

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

You really wouldn't make a fake leak if you had the ability too? That would be fun as hell.

I know theres plenty people here that could if they wanted to. Its just seems pointless

 

[CD'S BAR]

This shit is so real. Some of ya'll are in denial. Design is too out of left field to be fake.

 

[UnemployedVillain]

This shit is so real. Some of ya'll are in denial. Design is too out of left field to be fake.

The design is 1:1 from the patent drawing we all saw a while ago. They didn't just come up with it

 

[-Horizon-]

I know theres plenty people here that could if they wanted to. Its just seems pointless

If I had a 3d printer and more money and time than I knew what to properly do with, I'd want to mess with all of you too ;3

 

[QaaQer]

Here's an example of what screens look like with light on them. I know that at some angles they can appear flat black, but in the image with the WiiU, we have an example side by side of a real and fake screen.

screens:

And now, this particular image from the OP:



Notice the WiiU screen, and the 'NX' screen. The light is even shining on the 'NX' at an angle, but it looks like there is no depth to the display. You see the color of the light itself, but not any parts of the display are lit up underneath the material. It doesn't really look like a screen at all, in fact, just a glossy black piece of material.

New screen tech, BTW.

 

[DNAbro]

This shit is so real. Some of ya'll are in denial. Design is too out of left field to be fake.

it isn't out of left field at all though. It matches supposed design documents that Nintendo had.

 

[The Stranger]

If they're going to go with this sort of design in mind I hope that they still have a pro-controller option.

 

[Fine Ham Abounds]

The screen looks fine, it looks almost exactly like my Vita does in incandescent light

 

[RM8]

The design is 1:1 from the patent drawing we all saw a while ago. They didn't just come up with it

And this is part of why I think it's fake, final designs are rarely / never identical to final designs.

 

[The Abominable Snowman]

This shit is so real. Some of ya'll are in denial. Design is too out of left field to be fake.

TBH, its not really out of left field, as Nintendo had several patents with this shape. It's even similar to the Pokken controller.

What makes me lean real is the rounded corners on the outside of the glass, similar to the rounded faces of the Android Wear watches. Way too expensive to recreate that with regular storebought glass or glossy plastic/acrylic.

One thing I kind of don't trust is the slight raise in the glass to the right of the right analog in the first pic. Doesn't make sense for the glass to be uneven there. So I wouldn't be surprised if fake.

 

[Somnid]

Here's an example of what screens look like with light on them. I know that at some angles they can appear flat black, but in the image with the WiiU, we have an example side by side of a real and fake screen.

screens:

And now, this particular image from the OP:



Notice the WiiU screen, and the 'NX' screen. The light is even shining on the 'NX' at an angle, but it looks like there is no depth to the display. You see the color of the light itself, but not any parts of the display are lit up underneath the material. It doesn't really look like a screen at all, in fact, just a glossy black piece of material.

Well these displays are extremely new tech, I'm not sure they would necessarily have the same properties in terms of internal reflection.

 

[BRocknRolla]

Wouldn't the Tactus tech mean the controller is gonna give us another situation where the console is too expensive for what it is because the controller is expensive?

Is there any corroboration at all to these Tactus suggestions? Any? It just sounds like a lot of people thinking it would be cool, but why would anyone think this would be the place we'd see it?

 

[Nickle]

I know theres plenty people here that could if they wanted to. Its just seems pointless

Life is pointless

 

[AniHawk]

the pushback on the initial leak had me thinking it was possibly fake, but this has me thinking it's more than likely real. however, whether this is the final version remains to be seen. nintendo's generally aware of ergonomics so i don't think they'd release something that feels terrible in your hands.

i have to say it's definitely a neat thing that they're doing something different if this is it. the tablet controller was half-baked and there was never any real plans for 3d beyond the wow factor. but i can imagine some better ideas coming out of just the haptic feedback element, nevermind the whole screen being a touch screen. the sticks do make it look weird though.

 

[QaaQer]

And this is part of why I think it's fake, final designs are rarely / never identical to final designs.

Totally wrong.

 

[Already Torn]

And this is part of why I think it's fake, final designs are rarely / never identical to final designs.

Except for the past few Nintendo home consoles.

And then we can turn around and say "it doesn't look rough enough! These things always look super crappy and are refined in the final product!"

 

[Urban Viking]

So, if the touch screen is actually a piece of acrylic, how is the screen of the first leak's controller able to display an image/screenshot/whatever of the UE4 tech demo? Serious question.

 

[Quote]

This shit is so real. Some of ya'll are in denial. Design is too out of left field to be fake.

The design is from Nintendo patents. It's not even remotely "left field"

 

[Pinky]

I'm all in on the Tactus theory. If you don't know what that Tactus is, it's this- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4eh-Cn3Pzk

Tactus was first unveiled in June 2012, and had a presence at CES in early 2013 and hasn't released anything or really done anything since then. Nintendo dropped 100 Million dollars on an unknown tech acquisition in late 2013. Iwata himself talked about how you can't play traditional games like Mario well on a touchscreen when Nintendo first talked about going mobile. Tactus tech being part of the controller is really the only thing that would make this make any sense.

Never seen this before. Very interesting. My only concern would be the cost factor. I would imagine implementing this tech into a controller/handheld would be expensive.

 

[Already Torn]

I'm all in on the Tactus theory. If you don't know what that Tactus is, it's this- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4eh-Cn3Pzk

Tactus was first unveiled in June 2012, and had a presence at CES in early 2013 and hasn't released anything or really done anything since then. Nintendo dropped 100 Million dollars on an unknown tech acquisition in late 2013. Iwata himself talked about how you can't play traditional games like Mario well on a touchscreen when Nintendo first talked about going mobile. Tactus tech being part of the controller is really the only thing that would make this make any sense.

I really can't imagine this is it. It defeats the purpose of not using buttons, and from looking at the screen there isn't that kind of stuff there.

 

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

This shit is so real. Some of ya'll are in denial. Design is too out of left field to be fake.

The funny thing is I dont care if its real or fake It just LOOK fake. Im not even going to go into how I would play it or how it will work because first the thing aint even on. Id rather wait for Nintendo tell how to use it.

Anyway why so many people finally coming out the woodwork today to say "oh its real according to what Ive been hearing.." Why today make it more appropriate to say than any other day? Did this end the NDA lol?

 

[Doctre81]

that would throw some more doubt though right? why would this super secret device be next to an place in an office where you can play games?

Umm what? The developers of Playstation allstars had a gc with freaking melee running in the bacground right where they were developing the game.

 

[KingV]

The screen looks fine, it looks almost exactly like my Vita does in incandescent light

Offices seldom have incandescent light, though.

 

[CarbonFire]

Here's an example of what screens look like with light on them. I know that at some angles they can appear flat black, but in the image with the WiiU, we have an example side by side of a real and fake screen.

screens:

And now, this particular image from the OP:



Notice the WiiU screen, and the 'NX' screen. The light is even shining on the 'NX' at an angle, but it looks like there is no depth to the display. You see the color of the light itself, but not any parts of the display are lit up underneath the material. It doesn't really look like a screen at all, in fact, just a glossy black piece of material.

Not all screens are the same. The NX screens are supposedly the freeform display tech from Sharp, which haven't seen much commercial use yet. But for that matter, here's another Sharp screen (Aquos Crystal smartphone):

Has a very similar black, highly reflective look to it.

Obviously can't prove this is a legit leak, but don't think the screen is what would out it if it were fake.

 

[Radnom]

The oval screen is absolutely ridiculous. What resolution is an oval? How do you design UI for an oval? You'd lose so much screen space if you put a Virtual Console game on that thing.

And for people who say your thumbs don't take up that much space, well no, not at a time. But your thumbs will be moving around and you won't be paying much attention to the area under your hands... so why render anything there at all? Ridiculous, it's a total waste of rendering time.

Phones need to render stuff under your fingers because they are trying to maximise screen space on the device. You'll note that phones have rectangular screens because it makes sense. It's easy to code for, you don't 'waste' pixels, it fits film and every other game made so far. Developers and players are used to it. Imagine trying to play a grid based game on this screen, it'd be so awkward.

There's rumour of Nintendo somehow figuring out a way to make touch controls 'feel good', but I'd be very suspicious of that claim because so far their only touch screens have been resistive rather than capacitive. You'd think some of the many, bigger companies that actually specialise in touch screens would figure that problem out first. Not saying it's impossible though, Nintendo can definitely be creative. It's just not particularly likely.

Also, those 'joysticks' (nubs on half-balls) look terrible and the lack of buttons removes the biggest benefit of a dedicated gaming device. I wouldn't put a touch based console past Nintendo, but I think they'd go all the way with it rather than shoving a couple of control sticks in the middle of the screen.

It's just a mockup made to look like that patent. It's not the real thing, and if it was, it'd be the most brainless move Nintendo has made. Team Fake all the way.

 

[The Abominable Snowman]

Never seen this before. Very interesting. My only concern would be the cost factor. I would imagine implementing this tech into a controller/handheld would be expensive.

Well, that and we would be banking on the tech coming very far. The demos had huge bezels, resistive screens, unproven durability, and plastic matte. I don't think it's feasible with that small bezel.

 

[cartographer]

So, if the touch screen is actually a piece of acrylic, how is the screen of the first leak's controller able to display an image/screenshot/whatever of the UE4 tech demo? Serious question.

Why does it have to be displaying anything versus something printed on?

 

[DNAbro]

Not all screens are the same. The NX screens are supposedly the freeform display tech from Sharp, which haven't seen much commercial use yet. But for that matter, here's another Sharp screen (Aquos Crystal smartphone):

Has a very similar black, highly reflective look to it.

Obviously can't prove this is a legit leak, but don't think the screen is what would out it if it were fake.

ooooh. this thread is fun.