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NX will launch in March 2017 globally, won't be at E3 (focusing on Zelda instead)
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Godzilla's Left Toe
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Neither have the people in Japan
I'm personally fine with no more new Wii U games releasing at all, as long as they put a ton of work into making NX games. The Wii U is a lost cause, and the only people who bought it are Nintendo nuts who will buy NX regardless of how much content the Wii U produces over the next year.
I hope there's enough of a fan reaction online to make them re-evaluate when they start telling us things about the NX, safe to assume that nothing is coming before E3 if they don't want to detract from Zelda, July/August are summer months which I can't imagine being utilised for sharing information, so then September/October looks the likeliest period, but then that's only 6 months out.
The thirst for info is real Nintendo, give us something please.
The thirst for info is real Nintendo, give us something please.
The poster in question doesn't even own a Wii U, saying Nintendo released mediocre games this gen and borrowed a friend's Wii U that was full of dust.
Nintendo has a userbase of 70m if you combine 3DS and Wii U to worry about, these posters aren't aligned with reality. It's OK if you feel you're done with Nintendo, but the "shot themselves in the foot" comments don't hold until we know for a fact that NX and their mobile adventures failed to meet expectations which will take awhile.
Cookie Dough
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In all seriousness though, I think it's crazy that Nintendo is missing 2016. People point to previous cycles to demonstrate that 2017 is more logical, and usually they'd be right, but let's not forget just how poorly Nintendo is doing. This year was the year for big moves from Nintendo, but instead we're getting another 12 months of holding pattern.
The one upside from this though is hopefully their inability to get the NX out quicker means the NX is going to be more robust a system than one might expect. Maybe they wanted to hit 2016 but supply chain issues prevented it, or maybe some aspect of their design just won't be ready in time. I'm disappointed in this news but it just raises my expectations of the NX even more. No doubt setting myself up for more disappointment here though.
The one upside from this though is hopefully their inability to get the NX out quicker means the NX is going to be more robust a system than one might expect. Maybe they wanted to hit 2016 but supply chain issues prevented it, or maybe some aspect of their design just won't be ready in time. I'm disappointed in this news but it just raises my expectations of the NX even more. No doubt setting myself up for more disappointment here though.
Confused Cheeseburger
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Savage.
You mean stuff for 3DS and Wii U?
I'll attest to this, I remember you saying it and me being unsure but optimistically disagreeing. I do remember some more vehemently disagreeing as well.
The direct hybrid was long ago shot down by Nintendo, though things do change. Unless you meant a shared or parttly shared library?
It's absolutely not too soon to replace the Wii U. It's a convalescent asking for mercy.
ZehDon
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Oh my. Launching a console 10 months after a no-show at the largest and best covered media related gaming convention in the entire world is more than a little surprising. Gamers just straight didn't turn up for the Wii U, and with the decline of the handheld market, I just don't think Nintendo can launch a home console against the PS4 on brand strength along. They needed the coverage, energy and pandering that E3 provides in spades. And that's not even factoring in the PS4K, PSVR or Xbone.5.
Oh wait I saw Zelda is pushed to 2017 as well. Lol
No but do you really think all 12 million would actually like something on their system?
My Wii u will be a dust collector/Mario maker machine for the next year. The next YEAR! That is insane
lol -- I'm not sure why my prediction is bad. My post is pretty clear. I never said companies will stop making third party AAA games. Companies will continue on making third party AAA games for Xbox and PlayStation.
A March release date is terrible for the NX in terms of third party support though. Again, how many people do you really think will wait 3-4 months to play Holiday 2016 multiplats while MILLIONS of other people play and talk about them on systems that may possibly be cheaper? Low games sales lead to low game support.
People still holding out hope that the NX will completely change Nintendo's multiplat gaming situation in the home console space should move on. It was already going to take a miracle for it to happen but now it's almost impossible due to the March release date.
Pokemon is Game Freak's decision and not Nintendo's. Also has a large competitive scene and they keep the meta up to date.
Zelda is going open world and a return to its roots from the NES days. You honestly don't expect any polish from a Zelda title?
No one at all makes 3D platformers period. Everyone follows Mirror's Edge and Portal but nothing at all like 3D Mario.
I've been saying since the NX was first brought up by Iwata that it was simply unrealistic to expect a finished system released before 2017, let alone a system that is supposed to break the set-top and handheld paradigms, and that is not even mentioning having any kind of notable software lineup at launch.
People have been painting their expectations with their hopes for something to replace the WiiU, but that's not how technology is developed and manufactured. I doubt Nintendo is working any other speed than full steam ahead, and they definitely don't want to release an anemic window of software like they did with the their last console.
People have been painting their expectations with their hopes for something to replace the WiiU, but that's not how technology is developed and manufactured. I doubt Nintendo is working any other speed than full steam ahead, and they definitely don't want to release an anemic window of software like they did with the their last console.
Bots are better than you
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Guess that's why they plan a NX event, right?
But i do agree, at least a small "appetizer" during E³ would have been good, even if it would just be the official name and one game in addition to Zelda.
In a market, where "Remastered" versions of games not even one year old are selling, a late(ish) port can do so, IF the port isn't gimped in any possible way. Also, no one stops 3rds from simply adding some DLC on the disc, and call it "Definitive Edition", and release on all consoles at the same time. And you think Nintendo would only get older ports, and not any multiplatform games releasing in 2017? Hell will freeze over, but 2017 will have it's own FIFA, MADDEN, CoD.
In the end, your answer to my post is just another of this out of touch jumping to conclusion.
Audioboxer
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Sony held their own event for the PS4, I think it's fine if Nintendo do the same?
I'm a bit surprised at the release date though unless they are holding out for new tech that isn't ready to go live this year. If the console comes out with this year's tech, or even older I'll be surprised then at this decision.
Overall not really getting too much of the blowback. The Wii U is dead and was dead irrelevant of when the NX comes out.
I guess given Nintendos current position it might have been best to go all out at E3 rather than wait longer for another event, or their own event. Still we don't know everything behind the scenes... In saying that though Nintendo have been a bit daft with some of their decision making for a while. Seems they struggle to adapt to change in the way the other companies do.
I'm a bit surprised at the release date though unless they are holding out for new tech that isn't ready to go live this year. If the console comes out with this year's tech, or even older I'll be surprised then at this decision.
Overall not really getting too much of the blowback. The Wii U is dead and was dead irrelevant of when the NX comes out.
I guess given Nintendos current position it might have been best to go all out at E3 rather than wait longer for another event, or their own event. Still we don't know everything behind the scenes... In saying that though Nintendo have been a bit daft with some of their decision making for a while. Seems they struggle to adapt to change in the way the other companies do.
Yup. Nintendo should release a new handheld then the NX at the same time as PS5. Mine as well wait. Terrible timing.
SinCityAssassin
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Gonna get some de ja vu in saying this again, but documents and rumors for the NEO indicate a release date of Q1 2017, with software preparations for the console iteration starting around September and announced at the launch of PSVR.
Jo Shishido's Cheeks
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Gives me more time to work on my 3DS and U backlogs.
I'm okay with this.
I'm okay with this.
FalsettoVibe
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So maybe NX and Neo around the same time? Maybe Polaris is the holdup. Assuming that's what they will use.
I doubt it. We already have a month so why should we be exited about a day?
It would also be akward to say "our next gen platform code named NX that we told you absolutely nothing about will launch with Zelda March 17"
efyu_lemonardo
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Frankly the Zelda development cycle sounds like it's been a mess for as far back as I can remember. At the very least since Wind Waker released. Initially Aonuma keeps saying things are going well and on schedule, then eventually the game is 2 years late with almost no explanation why. It doesn't add up. Why does every single console release seemingly have to be thoroughly reworked mid development?
Plinko
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This makes me feel a little better. I at least want a digital event.
TheAutomator
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Actually was talking about the NX but I apologize for not clarifying.
MoogleWizard
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Disappointing. But if they need more time for the launch games or have to wait for better processors then it's a good decision.
Salty Rice
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This is terrible.
We all get hyped up and then have to wait for eternity for even a reveal.
Also WiiU sales for this year taking now a huge dive.
We all get hyped up and then have to wait for eternity for even a reveal.
Also WiiU sales for this year taking now a huge dive.
Goose_Se7en
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Wow at this news...just wow. NX in March 2017 and they won't even talk about it at E3 to drum up excitement among the Nintendo faithful and mainstream fans. E3 is for all intents and purposes our "Wrestlemania, World Series, Super bowl" etc.
All eyes will be on this event and if Nintendo has no NX to even talk about it means they're not ready or confident. Sony talked about PS4 without showing the console and pacifying us with specs and a controller.
NX in March 2017 seems so far away, so much can happen between now and then.
All eyes will be on this event and if Nintendo has no NX to even talk about it means they're not ready or confident. Sony talked about PS4 without showing the console and pacifying us with specs and a controller.
NX in March 2017 seems so far away, so much can happen between now and then.
Sony had their own PS4 event, and a info blowout at E3 with games, pricing, design etcetera. E3 has always been involved and it's only logical because it's the biggest gaming event there is.
Nintendo showing a console and launching it without even giving it a spotlight at E3 is pretty strange, to say the least. But I guess they just completely missed targets with the NX and they have no choice.
NHarmonic.
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Zelda delayed AGAIN? So are we going to throw a tantrum like in every uc4 thread?
This E3 could be awesome for nintendo if they build the hype with NX games trailers and teasers. I'm ready to jump on board that train.
Edit: i really don't think they will not show anything at E3, that would be a disaster.
This E3 could be awesome for nintendo if they build the hype with NX games trailers and teasers. I'm ready to jump on board that train.
Edit: i really don't think they will not show anything at E3, that would be a disaster.
Haven't read much of this thread at all so maybe I'm just repeating everyone else, but all this seems extremely concerning to me for the NX. Not just because March doesn't seem a great time to launch a new console vs Christmas (although I may be wrong, marketing experts come at me), but because that weird date makes me think the NX and its games could be behind schedule, or Nintendo are having some doubts about it, or trouble getting everything in place for launch. I'd actually feel better were the console delayed until the end of 2017, because it'd feel more like they were giving it plenty of time to get ready. March 2017, to me, feels like the sort of date that's the earliest they feel they can realistically release it, with something of the panic about it. Of course that's entirely my own baseless speculation, but the announcement inspires absolutely zero confidence - or even negative confidence, creating doubts that didn't exist before.
I admittedly had no plans to get an NX at launch anyway given how both the 3DS and Wii U prices dropped precipitously in the year that followed (and without many games released during that time) but everything about this, right down to the weird 'only Zelda at E3!' thing (maybe they took the reaction to Paper Mario to heart and are making some changes? Doubt it, but am struggling to think of a different reason it won't be playable) feels like a looming catastrophe at a time when Nintendo need to be inspiring confidence more than ever among investors, developers and customers. Again, none of this is based on anything real and I may be completely wrong or my feelings of dread in a minority of one, but... ouch. Not good at all, IMO.
I admittedly had no plans to get an NX at launch anyway given how both the 3DS and Wii U prices dropped precipitously in the year that followed (and without many games released during that time) but everything about this, right down to the weird 'only Zelda at E3!' thing (maybe they took the reaction to Paper Mario to heart and are making some changes? Doubt it, but am struggling to think of a different reason it won't be playable) feels like a looming catastrophe at a time when Nintendo need to be inspiring confidence more than ever among investors, developers and customers. Again, none of this is based on anything real and I may be completely wrong or my feelings of dread in a minority of one, but... ouch. Not good at all, IMO.
Godzilla's Left Toe
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and piggybacked it with E3 later that year.
Stupid justifications like this always make me laugh.
It's okay for Nintendo to not show the NX at E3 because you have a backlog. Okay buddy.
Pancakes R Us
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Perhaps the smartphone apps will carry them through.
MatrixMan.EXE
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I'm nowhere near done with Nintendo. Nowhere did I say I was. My stance is that, despite the fact that their games are selling well and Amiibo's are doing well, the demand for their hardware is decreasing year on year.
That doesn't mean they're doomed. It just means...well...like I said, their hardware business has a bleak future.
Except for the fact that they already said NX wont be even talked about at E3.
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
Another entire year to slip faster into irrelevance.
They are not going to be in a good place after this year at all. It's going to seem like they just disappeared.
They are not going to be in a good place after this year at all. It's going to seem like they just disappeared.
I agree. Maybe they are saying March when they know they are going to delay it till holiday 2017?
As much as I think they need to release this thing ASAP to stop the bleeding, releasing a bad idea again like the Wii U would be disastrous.
Tal Shiar Agent
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I've got a bad feeling about this. How can Nintendo justify stagnating for another year, not even talking about NX at E3?
I thought Nintendo's E3 last year was dreadful (even though I loved the puppets!), but this year looks like it is going to plumb even lower depths.
Last year during the Q&A session after the AGM, Iwata said:
"When NX is launched, there already will be a certain volume of Nintendo 3DS and Wii U hardware widely existing in the market, so from a software business perspective, it would be highly inefficient to stop releasing titles for Nintendo 3DS or Wii U right after the launch of NX."
He was correct it would be highly inefficient. So the inefficient Nintendo stop releasing software before the launch of the NX.
Last year during the Q&A session after the AGM, Iwata said:
"When NX is launched, there already will be a certain volume of Nintendo 3DS and Wii U hardware widely existing in the market, so from a software business perspective, it would be highly inefficient to stop releasing titles for Nintendo 3DS or Wii U right after the launch of NX."
He was correct it would be highly inefficient. So the inefficient Nintendo stop releasing software before the launch of the NX.
SinCityAssassin
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I will agree with you on that front, though only for console. Despite the fact that the Handheld market is shrinking, Nintendo's utter monopoly on the space guarantees its profitable existence until we face a platform singularity.
Sorry, it was a general "you"
Their hardware business had a bleak future before Wii and DS as well. (PSP was expected to take significant market share from Nintendo)
RealityCheque
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No way in hell that Zelda is a Wii U game at this stage.
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