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[ffdgh]

What it needs is a 3DS title this year.

Still waiting for them to release that amiibo Idol A and amiibo Idol B thing people dug up in the game code...which are guaranteed to be the squid sisters lol.

 

[Dark Cloud]

I'm so excited for this NX reveal. I wonder when it will be. I'm think August or September the latest. If Nintendo is saying screw E3 we want an event to our own I expect some great great things from it.

 

[KingSnake]

Expecting angry shareholders threads on gaf...

For a second I thought I'm in the wrong thread. But maybe you are.

 

[Vampirolol]

I'm so excited for this NX reveal. I wonder when it will be. I'm think August or September the latest. If Nintendo is saying screw E3 we want an event to our own I expect some great great things from it.

September makes sense, so they'll probably show it in December just because they hate us.

 

[ffdgh]

September makes sense, so they'll probably show it in December just because they hate us.

God I hope they don't wait that long despite completely expecting it....or as late as January 2017.

 

[disco]

For a second I thought I'm in the wrong thread. But maybe you are.

God I hope they don't wait that long despite completely expecting it....or as late as January 2017.

I'm expecting March 2017, launch Christmas 2017. I can't be more pessimistic than that right?

 

[Silent_Ocarina]

I'm expecting March 2017, launch Christmas 2017. I can't be more pessimistic than that right?

Well, last night the common pessimistic prediction was "We'll talk more about NX at E3."

Somehow Nintendo still manages to surprise us even then.

 

[nynt9]

Isn't the Nintendo fiscal year end in April? Seems like March was as far as they could delay it while still being able to see its results this fiscal year.

 

[Dark Cloud]

September makes sense, so they'll probably show it in December just because they hate us.

Lmao nah dude don't this to us. ;_;

 

[Rösti]

Isn't the Nintendo fiscal year end in April? Seems like March was as far as they could delay it while still being able to see its results this fiscal year.

Correct. Nintendo's FY 2016 ends March 31, 2017.

 

[Hakai]

So...there was no Q&A?

 

[thefro]

So...there was no Q&A?

I think it usually doesn't go up until the next day in Japanese, but Friday is a holiday in Japan, so it may be Monday.

 

[Not]

Every time. Every fucking time I miss two days of GAF, this shit happens. Meanwhile, when I spend 18 hours a day on it, I get squat. Nintendo's got my number.

 

[Anth0ny]

Pokemon amiibo can be a thing literally forever

everything can be retailer exclusive. like the games, it's up to you to go on an adventure and find every pokemon. trade with your friends if you have to.

pidgey is everywhere

paras is toys r us exclusive

porygon is best buy exclusive

arcanine is petsmart exclusive

 

[HandsomeCharles]

porygon is best buy exclusive

Porygon can only be won at Pachinko parlours.

 

[Eradicate]

Yeah, hopefully the Q&A will come up sometime in the next few days, though as mentioned, it looks like holidays are coming up!

I'm also all for having tons of Pokemon amiibos and having to hunt them down, trade them, etc. Create an underground market for them!

I saw Koei Tecmo mention NX in their full year investor presentation yesterday, so I guess they likely have something in mind for it? NX Legend of Zelda Hyrule Dynasty Xtreme Collection?! Quick edit: Just saw thread for it! I missed it!

 

[Jim_Cacher]

Japanese Q&A is up: https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/library/events/160428qa/index.html

 

[KingSnake]

Going by google translate, it doesn't seem to be any new info, mostly deflecting answers. But waiting for better translation.

 

[Atram]

NXについて、コンセプトなどの詳細は改めて発表する場を設けますので、ご質問いただいた点に関してのみ回答します。ソフトのラインアップの充実についてはおっしゃる通りです。ソフトのラインアップがハード発売時に揃っていることも今回NXの発売時期を決めた理由の１つです。そして、発売時だけではなく、その後タイトルを継続して出せる状況でないといけません。長く遊んでいただくためのプラットフォームとして計画を立てています。

次にコストの考え方ですが、前提としてハードを採算割れで出すという考え方はしていません。Wii U発売当時は為替が大幅に円高になった背景があり、そのような状況にならないことが前提となりますが、コスト割れで発売するようではビジネスとして成り立っていきませんので、そういう考えでNXの開発を進めています。

What does this say? Google Trans sucks

 

[KingSnake]

I think there is one info though, Kimi might have said that they don't plan on taking a loss on NX.

 

[Nothing1016]

https://mobile.twitter.com/cheesemeister3k

Translating some of the Q&A

 

[Jintor]

These are good questions so far. Investors paying close attention by the sound of things.

 

[Otakumegane]

I'd try out a Miyamoto mobile game.

If he was ever sane enough to make one.

 

[KingSnake]

I think that was an interesting question about how serious is in fact Nintendo about the mobile business. I think Miitomo made people doubt that.

Also throwing Yamauchi and Iwata quotes about holiday season was a good one.

 

[Jintor]

I think that was an interesting question about how serious is in fact Nintendo about the mobile business. I think Miitomo made people doubt that.

That actually indicated to me they were serious. Miitomo is a super cautious entry.

 

[Hero of Legend]

I like these NX questions (from Cheese):

Q5. While #NX details are not being announced today, I want to know about its effect on results for this fiscal year. Previous launches have not had enough titles and were therefore slow to start. Can you promise to have a proper lineup at launch? The #WiiU was a net negative, so also in consideration to cost, please tell me how the first year of the #NX will contribute to results.

Q8. You indicated that building up software is the reason why #NX will be released in March 2017, and I know development takes time, but I don't think there's any reason in missing the year-end sales season. When the GameCube was launched in Sep., I recall that President Yamauchi said that, "It is absolutely imperative that we do not miss the year-end sales season," and after the #3DS launched in Feb President Iwata said that, "Missing the Christmas sales was a huge problem." Now with President Kimishima, #Miitomo missed year-end and #NX will miss the year-end, making an impression that Nintendo's conventional thinking has changed. Why is NX launching in March? Has there been a change in thinking?

 

[KingSnake]

That actually indicated to me they were serious. Miitomo is a super cautious entry.

It's low on content even by mobile standards.

Edit: also unacceptably slow.

 

[Shiggy]

I think that was an interesting question about how serious is in fact Nintendo about the mobile business. I think Miitomo made people doubt that.

Also throwing Yamauchi and Iwata quotes about holiday season was a good one.

Miitomo felt more like their employees trying to say "we don't want to do this, so let's make it barebones and extremely slow". Not sure if the title just wasn't ready but had to be pushed out in that FY, or if it was just planned to be this bad.

 

[Dark Cloud]

He's going to translate some answers

 

[Peru]

I think that was an interesting question about how serious is in fact Nintendo about the mobile business. I think Miitomo made people doubt that.

Also throwing Yamauchi and Iwata quotes about holiday season was a good one.

Impatient and short-sighted investors want full games on smart phones. It's obvious why Nintendo won't deliver that, nor will Fire Emblem and Animal Crossing be that.

 

[KingSnake]

Impatient and short-sighted investors want full games on smart phones. It's obvious why Nintendo won't deliver that, nor will Fire Emblem and Animal Crossing be that.

It's not about full games. It's about Nintendo having a reputation in regards to software quality. which should be reflected also on mobile if they are serious about it. That's what the question is about. About quality even within the mobile standards.

 

[Mpl90]

Q1, Q5, Q8 and Q11 getting translated by our beloved Cheese as we're speaking

 

[Jintor]

It's low on content even by mobile standards.

Edit: also unacceptably slow.

I'm not saying it's not rubbish, but I don't think they just shat it out.

 

[TrueBlue]

Miitomo is amusing, just incredibly vapid. I like the concept a lot, but I don't have much reason to go back.

 

[Dark Cloud]

Kimishima- Wii U is dead and 3DS is steady lol

He said the software lineup is ONE reason the NX is launching in March. So, there are other reasons.

 

[Bots are better than you]

Kimishima- Wii U is dead and 3DS is steady lol

He said the software lineup is ONE reason the NX is launching in March. So, there are other reasons.

Maybe this rumored/possible fuck-up at AMD's factory, that was posted in the NX March launch thread, could relate to that. But since it's only said by one user, that's to be taken carefully of course.

 

[KingSnake]

So indeed is confirmed that Nintendo doesn't plan to take a loss on hardware for NX.

A5. As the concept and other details of #NX will be announced another time, I will just answer the points of your question. As you said the software lineup will be built-up. Having a full software lineup when the hardware launches is one reason for the #NX launch timing. Also, we must be in a state to release titles not just at launch, but continually afterwards. We are planning for it to be a platform that will be played for a long time. Next, about cost, we aren't thinking of the hardware being unprofitable. When the #WiiU launched the exchange rate was that of a very strong yen, and so that we don't have that kind of a situation again, launching as a loss-leader won't be what makes up our business, so that's how we're progressing with #NX development.

Also software is one of the reasons for the delay.

 

[NotLiquid]

Not launching hardware at a loss is... well, I don't know if I can call that a good thing or a bad thing honestly. That entirely depends on how powerful or "gimmicky" the console is. There's a possibility of it again being overpriced, or being underpowered.

 

[WhiteRabbitEXE]

So indeed is confirmed that Nintendo doesn't plan to take a loss on hardware for NX.

Neither Sony nor Microsoft have taken a loss on hardware this gen, right? Or were they just a lot closer to breaking even per unit than usual?

 

[Bots are better than you]

Were PS4 and XOne sold at loss at launch?

 

[maxcriden]

In the middle of the night or at some point last night some amazing name for the QoL sleep product cane to me and now I can't remember it at all. 😅

 

[NotLiquid]

Were PS4 and XOne sold at loss at launch?

PS4 was being sold at a loss as far as I remember.

 

[Mpl90]

It seems one of his points about not being a loss leader (the one he higlights) is the Yen exchange. What was it back when Wii U launched,

 

[KingSnake]

Were PS4 and XOne sold at loss at launch?

It's not very clear. But both charge for online so even if there would have been a small loss it was more than compensated by gold and plus.

 

[WhiteRabbitEXE]

Looked it up, found a bunch of stories saying both the Xbox One and PS4 were indeed sold at losses. But they were much, much smaller losses than before, and were made up quite easily/quickly.

 

[KingSnake]

It seems one of his points about not being a loss leader (the one he higlights) is the Yen exchange. What was it back when Wii U launched,

Yen exchange was the official excuse for being in red in that period. Look up the investor info from January 2013 for example.

 

[TheJoRu]

Not launching hardware at a loss is... well, I don't know if I can call that a good thing or a bad thing honestly. That entirely depends on how powerful or "gimmicky" the console is. There's a possibility of it again being overpriced, or being underpowered.

I doubt there will be any specific innovation or "gimmick" present in the actual hardware. Not only is there a risk of it increasing cost of the hardware greatly without necessarily adding much appeal to the system (see: the Gamepad), since it's in the hardware it's difficult to adapt long-term to changes. If they are intending on making NX a platform that can evolve, change and manifest in many different form factors then I think the concept may be more abstract or lies in the software, that is more adaptable and can be distributed freely even to older versions of the hardware.

I still believe they will target $299 launch price and develop the NX accordingly.

 

[Guymelef]

PS4 was reported as profitable on a hardware unit basis 6 months after the launch. We don't know when the profit began.

 

[stilgar]

Let's do this, then.

 

[Joqu]

Might be a bit pointless for most of y'all, but I'm gonna post Cheesemeister's translations here if that's okay, I get way too confused by Twiter's layout to read this stuff on there.

So yeah, translations are all by https://twitter.com/Cheesemeister3k of course.

Q1. It seems the great reduction in the WiiU hardware sales forecast is influenced by the timing of the NX release, but how about 3DS?

A1. While we have set the sales forecast for the WiiU at 800,000 units, we don't think that there will be any negative effect on the 3DS. This fiscal year, the 3DS has big titles as previously presented, and in sufficient quantity. Both hardware and software will make large contributions to sales. Also, while WiiU sales are forecast to drop to 800,000 units, the upside is that we can focus on the 3DS.


Q5. While NX details are not being announced today, I want to know about its effect on results for this fiscal year. Previous launches have not had enough titles and were therefore slow to start. Can you promise to have a proper lineup at launch? The WiiU was a net negative, so also in consideration to cost, please tell me how the first year of the NX will contribute to results.

A5. As the concept and other details of NX will be announced another time, I will just answer the points of your question. As you said the software lineup will be built-up. Having a full software lineup when the hardware launches is one reason for the NX launch timing. Also, we must be in a state to release titles not just at launch, but continually afterwards. We are planning for it to be a platform that will be played for a long time.

Next, about cost, we aren't thinking of the hardware being unprofitable. When the WiiU launched the exchange rate was that of a very strong yen, and so that we don't have that kind of a situation again, launching as a loss-leader won't be what makes up our business, so that's how we're progressing with NX development.


Q8. You indicated that building up software is the reason why NX will be released in March 2017, and I know development takes time, but I don't think there's any reason in missing the year-end sales season.

When the GameCube was launched in Sep., I recall that President Yamauchi said that, "It is absolutely imperative that we do not miss the year-end sales season," and after the 3DS launched in Feb. President Iwata said that, "Missing the Christmas sales was a huge problem." Now with President Kimishima, Miitomo missed year-end and NX will miss the year-end, making an impression that Nintendo's conventional thinking has changed. Why is NX launching in March? Has there been a change in thinking?

A8. There is no change to our thinking about launch timing. When launching hardware, "How much software can customers play?" is important. Launch timing must be based on that.

Customers having more money to spend during the holiday season is one big factor in starting then but our integrated hardware/software business doesn't end that year, but is something that can continue to be played for several years so we think that "releasing something proper" is the most important thing. By that, we don't think "holiday season timing is a must" but rather that we should launch when we can provide something proper. That point has not changed.


Q11. While the forecasted sales for the WiiU this fiscal year are extremely weak, NX contributions to profitability seem to be included appearing to be numbers showing that, "We have some confidence in the NX, which will start with a sprint." Do you believe that the new NX will be able to cover for the decline of the WiiU?

A11. We have forecast WiiU sales of 800,000 units for this fiscal year, a decline from 2.4m units last fiscal year. In terms of what will cover for it, essentially, the NX and smart device businesses will be central, and also, the download content business is included.

We are planning for a large part of the great decline in the sales of WiiU hardware being made up by NX sales.