OricWindstar
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Aaaaah, this is the type of stuff I was hoping for. Seeing something cool in the distance and then setting out for it. I imagine the NX may even be better for this type of spotting.
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Zelda Wii U - Recap of 5 hours gameplay stream
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Kissenkopf
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Cool and I was thinking the same. But it would be a HUGE Guardian!
DecoyOctopus
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Death Mountain "creature"
Wow, good find!
People will bash it if it has any flaws judging it as it was final version of game. They're already people judging the trailer as it was the whole game so...
I understand your statement, it may have worked with other devs but people are not forgiving at all with Nintendo.
Ulysses 31
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Wonder if there´s gonna be multiple endings depending on how much story you unlock/bosses you defeat. \o/
ShockingAlberto
Member
I didn't watch all the footage, but has there been any indications the guardians will be different? I hope they're not all just octopus robots and some fly, some burrow underground, etc.
I don't have enough info to say, but I think the most interesting idea would be for this to be the same Link from OoT after he fell in battle with Ganon. He's been recovering in a sheikah healing chamber for 100 years and seems to have amnesia. It's just strange that this Link has been kept in stasis for 100 years while Ganon attacked the kingdom.
The thought of this actually being the case crossed my mind during the showing yesterday. With Nintendo going into the mobile space, NX potentially struggling to find it's market (can't assume too much I know, but it's not implausible all things considered), and Zelda games like this seeming to take ~4 years to make lately, it just seems scarily possible. We might not see many more full Zelda experiences.swan song
n.
1. A farewell or final appearance, action, or work.
Let's hope not, but other than that I absolutely agree!
No use worrying about unlikely futures though, for now I (and we) should focus on what a joy this game already looks like today, and the year + hardware bump they have to keep going for improvements.
OricWindstar
Member
There hasn't been, but Nintendo has a history of taking a design and giving it variations through an adventure. I imagine we're just seeing the base model.
casey_contra
Member
As far as I've noticed it looks like some may be stationary. I'm not sure if that's because they are different creatures, or because some just happen to be stuck in the ground. I'd love to see a flying one, though - but I'd also be terrified.
This is amazing.
Death Mountain "creature"
ShockingAlberto
Member
I am mostly hoping to avoid another Imprisoned situation, though a lot of that was just bad design and not lazy design. There were increasingly complex ways to kill him in further fights, but it was just not communicated at all.
Stream didn't go beyong first area so we didn't saw any other kind of enemies that were shawn in the stream.
edit: beaten
OverturePT
Member
Man, there's something so weirdly satisfying about seeing Link running around almost naked in the wilderness... hmm...
sackboy2197
Member
Same for me. The trailer didn't do much for me, but these videos and the various points listed in the OP really got me interested.
CharminUltra
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ShockingAlberto
Member
I think, ideally, I would want the Guardians to essentially be Shadow of the Colossus colossi. Basically, each one is just a different gimmick and they all have to be tackled different ways. I want to have to race alongside a fast-moving guardian on my horse until I can leap off and get on top. Or I want to dive on a flying one from a cliffside.
I am starting to make myself sad because I am sure this will not happen.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
Honestly, this is the best combat aside from skyward sword 1:1 sword play. The witch time, weapon changes, jumping combat, creativity to use environment with items.. it goes hard
Brainfreeze
Member
Death Mountain "creature"
And now, for probably the first time in my life, I'm considering going media black-out on this game.
I want to start up this game and run right for that creature as soon as I can. I want to find out what it is for myself. I really don't want that mystery to be revealed in just a trailer or some shit.
I have a ton of reservations for this game, but all of the mystery is still managing to get me incredibly hyped. There's so much I want to discover.
James Scott
Banned
There are tiny ones so I think that would indicate slight variations
PadWarrior
Member
Its on the left side of the mountain. You can see it 5 seconds in till 30 seconds. It seems to slowly crawl down the mountain. Damn I wanna know what that is!!
Thats the kind of mystery I wanted in this Zelda game. SO good!
Yooooo!
Death Mountain "creature"
Thanks guys!
Skittzo0413
Member
I like to think about that "you can beat the final boss right away" thing like Morrowind- in Morrowind you had a huge number of paths to the finale of the game, but it was always more or less the same ending, the only difference was that in some playthroughs you don't interact with some NPCs, or any NPC's at all. Those choices don't really affect your "ending cutscene" like, say, in Fallout 3/4 or the Witcher 3, but they greatly change your gameplay experience throughout the game.
I think the Zelda team is going for a similar system where you can choose exactly how you want to progress through the world, rather than make different cutscenes at the end based on a few choices interspersed throughout the game.
I think as of now we've seen the immobile guardians, mini guardians in the shrines, and the fully fledged guardians out in the field. I agree that hopefully there are a huge variety of them throughout the game and actually I'm pretty confident about that, even if they're only different in the same way the bokoblins shown have been different. By that I mean, we've essentially seen two types of bokoblin (orange and blue, and I guess stalfos version makes three) but they all play very differently depending on what equipment they have available. Similar to Dark Souls enemies, really.
Though I also hope that there are different versions of guardians beyond the octorok style, maybe some bipedal guardians would be cool too.
I thought about this, but I feel like it just doesn't match up. It'd be cool, but seemingly, the Ganon from OoT is imprisoned by the Seven Sages and there's an entire war in there. 100 years is not long enough from really any of the games we've seen to necessitate the vast difference in Hyrule that we've seen.
Death Mountain "creature"
I don't know how you spoted that but good catch xD
casey_contra
Member
That would be cool, but I'd be worried about it being too derivative. I would, however, love to see guardian-ized traditional Zelda bosses. Like Gohma overtaken by technology or something.
It doesn't really prove or disprove anything, but if this Link was the one from OoT then he should be left-handed.
Whoa are you kidding me
A boss so big you can see it all the way across the map without a telescope?
Francokid1
Member
Hmm... I haven't played Spirit Tracks, did they say the islanders went to New Hyrule with Link, Zelda and the pirates?
I just remembered that the Boss room from the Tower of the Gods in Wind Waker looks similar to the tech in BotW:
I think the water receded and this is old Hyrule.
Neoleo2143
Member
It's important to note that the Guardians aren't the only "Boss" type creatures or if they really count as bosses at all. They're really really supremely dangerous enemies, that you only get introduced to in their broken state but still incredibly powerful.
For Example the Steppe Talus I imagine was designed to surprise newbies, it doesn't look particularly difficult but it does demand the climbing mechanic and has counters against Ranged Cheese and is still relatively punishing if you make a mistake.
Death Mountain "creature"
Ooooooh.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Okay, I've figured out a few more characters, so here's an update to the Zelda U Hylian alphabet cipher:
Figured out C, K, and M. J, Q, V, and X are the only ones left but I'm pretty sure I know what V is.
Apparently the Goal Markers say "ITS DANGEROUS TO GO ALONE"
tkscz
Member
If that's the case then my hypothesis maybe correct that this takes place in the Majora Mask time line sometime after twilight princess.
Neoleo2143
Member
Most terrifying Spider in a Videogame? Wouldn't put it past Nintendo. Still, that thing is Colossi Sized, it's straight up Shadow of the Colossus.
Aaronrules380
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More Zelda will be on treehouse stream in 2 hours according to NoA twitter
There's no way the Sheikah became an advanced civilization and died out while the Master Sword wore down that much in only 100 years after OoT.
Dont forget, it will be impossible to stop hackers to remove any restrictions from the demo, allowing ppl to explore beyond the plateau, and maybe blowing many secrets and obviously unfinished sections wide open for all to see.
spookyfish
Member
Well, Link does climb on the rock monster like SotC, so ... I guess it could be possible.
Nintendo plays fast and loose with details. There's not enough time between OoT and TP for the geographical changes that happen between those games but they happened. The Temple of Time apparently likes to fly around and sit itself wherever the hell it feels like.
Just think of it like this: The stories are legends. There is a timeline and in general the progression from game to game makes sense. But details like geography and certain races aren't as concrete. Each legend is told with details missing or added. Locations move around and stuff.
The way Hyrule Historia tells it, Link fell in battle against Ganon and Zelda and the sages were able to seal Ganon in the Sacred Realm. Centuries passed and portals to the Sacred Realm began opening up. People started going through the portals to search for treasure and Ganon built up his forces. War broke out between Ganon's forces spilling out of the portals and the sages of that time managed to seal the portals.
This game could take place during the time when Zelda and the sages sealed Ganon after Link's defeat. Ganon got the complete triforce and made his wish, becoming the Calamity Ganon. Zelda and the sages just have enough power to keep Ganon at bay while Link recuperates in a healing chamber for 100 years. Link wakes up and helps Zelda seal Ganon and the triforce away in the Sacred Realm.
Yes, and it's streamlined but deep with weapon variety, armors, and environmental triggers and items. I could not be happier.
For this to be the GOTG it just needs a good amount of large complex dungeons + fun clever shrines + meaningful NPCs and towns and quests.
I really hope there are some cool and memorable sidequests (beyond shrinehunting) like in MM. Gratitude crystals just didn't do it for me.
Skittzo0413
Member
What do you mean lack of full story? Where did you hear that? They said they were holding back a lot of story things from the E3 demo specifically, like towns and most NPCs
Very true regarding the details about geography, etc. I agree that this would be the most interesting theory, but even placing it during that point in the timeline as you suggest, it would go against what has been established previously (i.e. the Imprisoning War mentioned in Link to the Past)
If this happens during that time, almost assuredly there'd need to be more people such as the Knights of Hyrule for the stories to make sense. (Maybe there will be. We haven't seen much.)
Of course, again, this could be chalked up to "details" again however and they could make it work, I suppose. But I feel like the story would then be about how a great hero returned to help Hyrule and not about how the sages and people of Hyrule were able to seal Ganon away.
Neoleo2143
Member
I did get a lot of chuckles out of the Food Descriptions. People clearly had fun writing this game.