LookAtMeGo
Member
Lol. This happens to me every night lately.
Yup I heard it. "Lava caves"... shweeeet!
Lava being confirmed is great. Love to see an active volcano.
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No Man's Sky went gold
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Yup I heard it. "Lava caves"... shweeeet!
Lava being confirmed is great. Love to see an active volcano.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
Bare in mind it was given as an example only but I'm certain they'll include it. I can't see why it would be a problem.
interfreak
Member
No Man's Sky |OT| Hello Worlds
that's already the confirmed OT, friend
interfreak
Member
Great minds!
PS4, seems like an ideal kick back on the sofa game.
I have both versions on pre-order for this reason. I want to play the PC version but also want the LE. I am considering cancelling my PC version pre-order and maybe picking it up later in a sale. Except I know I won't cancel it!
LookAtMeGo
Member
Noted.
This is going to be my zen game. Just lay back and explore the shit out of as much as I can and soak up the scenery. I think I'll be pretty active in the thread about sharing discoveries and such.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
Just quoting myself for the new page because I think this is a reasonable theory.
More_Badass
Member
I just got a PS4 last month, so I'm tempted to go console, but I'm going on vacation at the start of August and will only have my laptop with me, so I'll probably keep my Steam preorder
Black holes, yes. Supernovae, no. I beliwve Shaun said this in the GI interview. He definitely did say that they're not really really trying to replicate real-world stars, and there will be some fantastic star types in-game (there seem to be green stars on the galaxy map) - so idk about dwarves. Pulsars would be nice, though.
Lava worlds and Mordor-like hellscapes or 1/10.
ScientificPizza
Banned
If you have the option I don't understand why you wouldn't go PC tbh
More_Badass
Member
Sean confirmed black holes in a Game Informer interview a few years back
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
Why not have two journeys?
pulsars are quite related to supernovae
Well the Limited Edition isn't available for the PC so there's that.
LookAtMeGo
Member
Some more ships from that GDC video. Apologies for blurriness. Zoomed in screens from mobile.
Is this what I think it is!?
Yiss!
Is this what I think it is!?
Yiss!
I was originally going to do PC, but I ended up pre-ordering the PS4 version.
My PC is in the office, and Id rather play this on my TV and my home theater system in bed at night lol.
LookAtMeGo
Member
Im just building a PC now. Will grab it on PS4 first and probably double dip on PC down the road.
Im just so glad they hit 60fps on PS4.
Im just so glad they hit 60fps on PS4.
eyeball_kid
Member
In terms of seeds, it's worth remembering that they have "used up" all the seeds for star systems as they have created a system for each 64 bit integer.
What's less clear, and what we're all really talking about, is how they have spread those seeds out in 3d space versus what those seeds create.
They have said there is a sense of progression as you move into the middle, and also that things get weirder and tougher as you move in.
That means there must be a link between where the seed number (star system) is located in the galaxy and what that seed will generate. This means part of the seed must be used to set distance from centre, and also "weirdness".
So coming back to universe versus galaxy, it really depends on whether they could figure out a way to do multiple versions of these orderings. They would need to somehow distinguish a subset of the seeds, enough, so that they generated systems that felt like a separate galaxy, as opposed to just a separate system.
Imagine you have to take the numbers 1 to 400 million and they make galaxy 1, then 400,000,001 to 800m make galaxy 2 etc...if you want galaxy 2 to look and feel different to galaxy 1 then you'd need something very fundamental to happen when the seeds switch. Quite possibly different art assets and creature types.
I think this would just be too hard.
Thinking about it some more they could order galaxies with the same "weirdness" filter as systems but this post is already too long and people won't read it
I may be totally off-base on what Hello is doing, but assuming I halfway understand, each galaxy would be generated in the same manner as each star system and each planet is. Everything descends from the initial master seed value. So the "universe algorithm" would generate X number of galaxies. The galaxy generator, based on the unique seed value it's fed, would customize each one according to the rules Hello defined. Each galaxy then uses its own algorithm with the value its given to generate all the stars and their placements, and each star does its own algorithm thing.
I don't believe the actual star "number" would have anything to do with its placement. It's just that the galaxy is told to generate a certain number of stars, and there's an algorithm that disperses them in a certain way based on its seed value. So you fly through the galaxy map, and the map says, "hey generator, give me the stars located in this rectangle of space", and so the generator does its algorithms thing and generates 243 stars in that area which the map displays.
The whole universe is an enormous series of russian dolls that descend from that original seed value. Algorithms and rule systems define how each level of generation creates its parts. The galaxies step would just be another level of generation on top.
So the 18 quintillion stars would just get divided up into different galaxies via some algorithm, and for instance galaxy 12, based on its seed value, would get an allotment of 500 billion stars. I think that 64-bit maximum would only matter for the database, as I assume each star gets its own db record on their server. And of course the initial master seed value is probably 64-bit.
Or I could be completely wrong (about part or all of what I said) and each galaxy gets an entirely new seed value that generates another 18 quintillion stars. But those would be unfathomably-sized galaxies, of a scale that I don't think exists in our real universe.
Lys Skygge
Member
PS4 because of trophies, and I'd like to sit on the couch and play with my GF.
The centre of the universe/galaxy is simply a room with a mirror so you can see yourself after countless hours inhabiting that body. Who knows what hideous creature you were actually controlling..
If there will indeed be frontier towns (but not cities), I wonder how they've been implemented. How large will they be? What gameplay oppurtunities do they provide? How dynamic is the simulation? Can the player interact with many of the residents? Are they just flavor? I'm leaning towards them being fairly static, uninteresting places with nothing to other than talk to a shopkeeper.
The third to the left is almost a Tie fighter.
More_Badass
Member
I'm really torn. Everything has been shown on PS4 so it should be well tuned to that, but I have a strong PC and the type of game should be able to have higher levels of detail and/or longer draw distance by adding processor power. So PC should naturally be much better looking (at least draw distance/LoD - assets may be limited by targetting PS4)
eyeball_kid
Member
Yup, PS4 for me also, this feels like such a sofa game for me. Grab a beer, kick back, and explore the shit out of some stars.
Granted, I only have a Mac, so PC isn't an option anyway. Considering the low spec requirements though, I hope Hello eventually ports this to Mac. Would be a nice laptop game.
SolidChamp
Banned
Wait, they hit 60fps on PS4?? WAT?
How the hell??
How the hell??
LookAtMeGo
Member
Also from that video
Just looking at the thumbnails, the planets seem varied
Yeah man. Looks like lots of variety for sure.
Just seems like such a golden oppertunity to be a place to meet another human player.
After the game has been out a while and people have enjoyed their vision of the game, i hope they go ahead and make hub towns for you to meet other players at. Just toss a waypoint on a galactic map and let players find their way there. That would be so cool.
bitbydeath
Member
Was this confirmed?
jellies_two
Member
But can you find any pokemon?
CarbonFire
Member
"Picked a meeting spot? Great, don't go anywhere, I'm on my way. According to my nav computer it should only take 763,928 jumps to get there. See you in soon!"
I'm sorry but have you seen the graphics? I would be disappointed if it didn't hit 60
Innes McKendrick stated that they calculate things like occlusion and lighting on a separate thread to maintain 60fps, and since he didn't say any platform specifically it's considered that this goes for PS4 as well.
LookAtMeGo
Member
Thats true, it wasnt soecified that the 60fps was on the PS4. I may have done some assuming on my end.
eyeball_kid
Member
I think it's a pretty safe assumption considering all of the footage they've shown so far is PS4.
Besides, Sean was one of the lead Burnout engine devs and cares about framerate. They weren't going to give up 60 on PS4 without a fight.
LookAtMeGo
Member
Well there could be multiple ones spread throughout the galaxy.
It might be tough to meet a friend but you could make it happen. Meeting a stranger seems more likely. They could also implement a spawning system if they so wished. I think its possible to see stuff like this down the road.
I believe they pulled it off but I guess ill keep my fingers crossed until we get offical confirmation.
Also the entire engine looks built around very scalable LoDs so they should be able to adjust draw distance and when each level of detail switches in to hit a desired framerate. That's the part that makes me think a PC version could be even better, but I don't think the draw distance (while very noticeable) is that terrible on PS4.
I do wonder if they can run their terrain generators on the GPU though - that would help a lot compared to being stuck with the jaguar cores.
Console or GTX 1080 with a 34" Ultrawide monitor...
No contest really. I don't hate myself enough to get it on PS4.
This is literally my setup but I'm still thinking PS4..
The amount of time I'd likely sink into this seems like a perfect background activity type of thing for me to lay on the sofa while my wife is reading or whatever. Maybe I should get a steam link
This is literally my setup but I'm still thinking PS4..
The amount of time I'd likely sink into this seems like a perfect background activity type of thing for me to lay on the sofa while my wife is reading or whatever. Maybe I should get a steam link
I can always carry my PC down to my 4K TV if I need to lounge that bad lol
The version demonstrated during IGN First last July was supposedly the PC version (played with a wired DS4 controller). If I remember right, confirmation came from a podcast where one of the presenters said "they showed the PC version."
I have the same setup. Hoping for proper 21:9 support with some degree of FOV customization, at launch.
bitbydeath
Member
Excellent, game is now VR ready.
What is this based on other than wishes?
it's 100% wishes. what's at the center of it all has never been even hinted, also, Sean has always discouraged thoughts of multiplayer. it could be as GribbleGrunger says or it could be a box full of fluffy bunnies swimming in chocolate. but I would pick GribbleGrunger's version over the fluffy bunnies, I must say.
kraspkibble
Permabanned.
PC no doubt about it simply because I want the best looking version. Will be playing at 1440p 60fps. Probably be able to get it cheaper on PC too.