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[Godzilla's Left Toe]

So why did they insist multiple times saying it's not a hybrid when it's totally a hybrid?

I guess they thought Sony would copy it.

 

[Maniel]

I bet they will sell it in two main skus. One will have all the parts to make it a handheld, and the other will have all the parts to make it into a home console.

 

[Herne]

This isn't for me, but I'll withhold judgement until I see it.

 

[mclem]

Btw. I still wouldn't call this a hybrid if that's really just a HH that can display the content on a TV. It's just an highly advanced PSP feature.
I'd have called it a hybrid if it had advanced functionality/hardware power when putting it in the docking station or something. The only difference for now seems to be that you can use several controllers with it.

As I said earlier in the thread, one of the simplest ways they could change things up for the static unit is to increase the power draw when hooked up to the mains. Laptops already are quite capable of that sort of thing.

 

[ProtomanNeo]

The updated PS4 and XB1 always seemed odd and unprecedented to me. However when viewed in the light of a docking station that super charges the NX they now make sense.

 

[Maiar_m]

Is this what they didn't want the competition to copy though? lol

It doesn't sound like something revolutionary or something that will catch on at such a big scale that Sony and Microsoft will just stop and drop what they're doing and copy this.

True, but if they're trying to unify mobile (as in smartphones) and home gaming in a single device, you could see how they'd want to get a headstart on companies that are already making smartphones and could theoretically say "your PS5 is your Xperia smartphone" or some shit like that.

I'd hate it ("Sorry, my battery is dead, I played 10 minutes in the tube this morning") but maybe that's what's holding them up.

Realistically though, they're just not ready and they're trying to fill the space with some white noise.

 

[Kai Dracon]

Which is incredibly underpowered. The Scorpio and Neo will be out soon which will blow away this console as far as specs go and the NX will be mid generation when the PS5 comes out. I hope Nintendo has a lot of games to keep the masses occupied with their lack of third party support.

Spoiler

they won't

By portable and mobile standards, it's not underpowered, and that would seem to be what Nintendo is looking at - the 60 million people who bought the last Nintendo portable vs the 12 million who bought the last Nintendo console. I mean even if the NX is one device that can cast games to a large screen when docked, for all practical intents this sounds like Nintendo exiting traditional game consoles entirely. The rat race for set top box power is no longer their concern, what Nintendo has wanted ever since the end of the Gamecube era.

 

[El Topo]

Dude Nintendo could of won e3 this year:
Pokemon go/silly badge thing
Zelda aka game of the show
Baby nes
Nx portable goodness

Guess they didn't have the nx games ready.

"Winning" E3 means jack shit.

 

[Jinkies]

Here's another thing, since the NX is basically a handheld, kiss the hardware storage goodbye. At most we will have 128GB of storage and how large will the games be for those who go digital?

The dock could have storage itself. Perhaps you copy games over for mobile play. I could see Nintendo making a really cute interface for that.

 

[Condom]

So it's literally what we all thought it was

I remember people getting angry at those that speculated that it might be a hybrid.

 

[ajim]

So I can play HD Pokemon on a big screen AND take it with me when I go?

I accept it.

Oh God yes. And monster Hunter!!

 

[Little Mons†er]

So why did they insist multiple times saying it's not a hybrid when it's totally a hybrid?

What would make you think Nintendo would flat out tell you what the NX would be 3 years in advance?

 

[GitarooMan]

I assume this will be the case, but the screen better be 1080p

 

[Parham]

I'm here for it, but not if it's some underpowered, glorified handheld that just hooks up to your TV and has ugly PS2 era graphics.
Nobody asked for that.

Did you read the Eurogamer articles? You aren't going to get PS2 graphics.

 

[DizzyCrow]

Why not just make a separate mini console with the same internals and cheaaper? Why force people who don't want a handheld buy one?

 

[Gator86]

As someone who really enjoyed Nintendo's handhelds and consoles for all his life...well, fuck. That really bums me out. I enjoyed having two separate libraries to curate.

Why would you want to have to but two pieces of underpowered, overpriced plastic and two categories of games that can't be played anywhere else when you could... you know... not do that. Console and handheld games on one cheap device is the only way Nintendo is getting a dime from me at this point.

 

[dancrane212]

Yeah, this was one of my favorite features with the Go. I still have mine in the kitchen draw, but unfortunately the internal battery died and won't charge and it won't power up when plugged into the wall. My daughter actually found it and wants it, so I want to see if I can get it fixed.

Ugh, completely glossed over the fact this is going to have a proprietary battery. At least Nintendo has been great about allowing easy replacement of internal batteries/having the system able to work, at least up until the GBA SP, off AC without a battery installed; hopefully it won't be a problem.

 

[Enter the Dragon Punch]

Wonder if Nvidia is going to help market this? Their name and marketing alone could sell to a lot of core players.

That, and I'm fully expecting Nvidia GRID to be a major system feature. Game streaming ensures forwards compatibility with PC versions of games so the NX could have western "support".

 

[Raven77]

Can anyone with more tech knowledge than me decipher how powerful this would be, based on that info, compared to the Wii U?

 

[TheDarkKnight774]

My follow up thought. Since the GBA Nintendo always messes around with the first iteration of their handheld systems and I feel like a sucker for buying at launch.

Man they are going to iterate on this like their handhelds aren't they? Probably will need to wait a year or so to be safe this time.

 

[DiddyKong08]

For what it's worth...

I shared this info with my old college roommate. He's got an Xbox One, plays Halo and Destiny. But he likes old Nintendo games, and he sometimes comes to my house to play some. But he's said "I'm not going to buy a Wii U or NX" a couple of times in the past.

So when I told him about this concept (specifically, a handheld console that could plug into a TV with between Wii U and XBO power), his response was "Dang. Nintendo's going to clean up with that."

Why? Because he's banking on the quality of Nintendo's games and the potential of a unique new idea.

Are most dude-bro gamers going to want this? Heck no. But 75 million Pokemon Go players roaming our streets tells us that there is more to the gaming population than that.

 

[Wollan]

I am looking forward to pick this up as a 2nd console because:
#1 Zelda BOTW is the first (for me) Nintendo killer-app since the early Wii era and I want to experience it on new hardware.
#2 Two platforms in one. Always been a few titles I really want on Wii-U and/or 3DS but not enough for me to dive into either. Now all their efforts will concentrated here (minus some on mobile, which everyone has).

This will not be a multi-platform console outside of Sonic, Disney Infinity etc. Typical Nintendo platform in that regard. Not a problem for me though as it's a secondary platform.

They really can't screw up the industrial design on this however. Changing between docked and portable mode must be Sexy for this to work.

 

[ZOONAMI]

So it's not a hybrid? What did people think of when they said "hybrid"?

Literally a system that is both a home console and a portable, and just because something can connect to a tv doesn't make it a home console. This is a handheld with tv connectivity, not really a full blown hybrid that replaces both the wii u and 3ds. This is the 3ds successor. Imo nintendo will have another home console, just not until late 2017 or more likely sometime in 2018 or so. The tv connectivity is just a stop gap in the space. They are conceding the home console generation to sony until they feel this gen is basically over. Neo isn't really a next gen system, just a reassertion of sonys dominance this gen. Maybe they will say something about next home console as scorpio release gets closer, or shortly after scorpio release.

 

[Ulysses 31]

When are pre-orders happening!??!

 

[saskuatch]

After how vanilla and uninteresting the Neo and Scorpio announcements were, it's good to see someone is willing to try something different in the home console space.

It is not doing anything in the home console space..... It is not a home console

 

[GhostTrick]

I assume this will be the case, but the screen better be 1080p

Bad idea.

 

[robotrock]

give me portable bayonetta.

 

[Oersted]

Not in the same ballpark because it's powered by Tegra. Developers aren't going to want to deal with this when everything else is x86.

We just had a thirdparty announcement regardless what it ends up being.

 

[Aaronrules380]

The dock could have storage itself. Perhaps you copy games over for mobile play. I could see Nintendo making a really cute interface for that.

I could also easily imagine a cloud storage option

 

[Spieler Eins]

So why did they insist multiple times saying it's not a hybrid when it's totally a hybrid?

Why did they blatantly lie about Zelda release dates over and over again? Or revision announcements 2 weeks before their reveals?
It's PR. The people treating it like gospel are always going to look like the fools in the end. Even if this is false, there'll be lots of other times Nintendo's gonna be PR bullshitting again.

 

[Kouriozan]

If this is true, no wonder western third parties were laughing when asked if they were going to support Nintendo

Fixed it for you.
For the Wii it was "we need to make unique games fo the unique controller", the with Wii U "we need to think about how to use the Gamepad".
Nothing will really change.

 

[Little Mons†er]

Dude Nintendo could of won e3 this year:
Pokemon go/silly badge thing
Zelda aka game of the show
Baby nes
Nx portable goodness

Guess they didn't have the nx games ready.

Nintendo won with just ZELDA alone

 

[The Elite]

When are pre-orders happening!??!

I can't even preorder the NES Classic yet.

 

[Punkster_NY]

This sounds really interesting. I think I might actually buy one.

 

[efyu_lemonardo]

Wouldn't it be problematic to just overclock the handheld whenever it's connected to a TV without some cooling solution?
And assuming it would be, are there any external cooling solutions out there that are genuinely effective?

 

[Vinc]

So... it's likely to not be much more powerful than the Wii U... and as someone who no longer wants to buy handhelds, I'll basically just be forced to upgrade my console with no advantage just to continue playing Nintendo games?

I'll wait for September and see... but uh... no thank you?

 

[Cow Mengde]

Ohhh, you make a good point. Kinda similar to their patent they had with 'boosted power' when hooked up traditionally to a TV.

Now while that was seemingly using some kind of 'cloud' or 'hub' tech (extra piece of tech in the home) to do so, this still may be the case where it can boost via a hub of some sorts.

Is there any negative issues to integrity or wear on the product doing so, often?

Or like I said earlier, it's even possible the dock contains another GPU and when both are hooked up, it provides even more power to the system.

I think the possibilities are endless.

Oh! Imagine if the "handheld" is the core of the system, and if Nintendo decides to end the NX generation and provide another generational leap, all they have to do is switch out the dock for a more powerful GPU that could hook up to the NX handheld to just it a generational leap.

All speculation on my part, but just think of all the possibilities!

 

[SatoAilDarko]

32GB is 8 times larger than 3DS and Vita's max game card size.

Why not just make a separate mini console with the same internals and cheaaper? Why force people who don't want a handheld buy one?

Dual-screen gaming baby.

 

[tenderbrew]

It is not doing anything in the home console space..... It is not a home console

It hooks up to a TV. How isn't it?

 

[Ragona]

will Nintendo sell all games for 60 bucks then?
pure handheld owners will see a price increase then

 

[javac]

It's a handheld first and a home console second so I don't see how the proposed specs are underpowered.

 

[Hero_of_the_Day]

So NX releases 3.5 years after the PS4 and has graphical capabilities like the X1.

lmao...

Nintendo did it again: Lackluster hardware compared to it´s competitors.

Nintendo has literally NEVER tried to put out the most powerful console it could. Anyone still expecting it after 30 years is insane.

 

[Sloane]

Not sure what to think of it until I see it. A hybrid is kinda nice and makes more sense for Nintendo than an actual console, but then I look at my Wii U gamepad and imagine this new thing might turn out to be pretty similar -- ehhhhh...

 

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

Literally a system that is both a home console and a portable, and just because something can connect to a tv doesn't make it a home console. This is a handheld with tv connectivity, not really a full blown hybrid that replaces both the wii u and 3ds. This is the 3ds successor. Imo nintendo will have another home console, just not until late 2017 or more likely sometime in 2018 or so. The tv connectivity is just a stop gap in the space. They are conceding the home console generation to sony until they feel this gen is basically over. Neo isn't really a next gen system, just a reassertion of sonys dominance this gen. Maybe they will say something about next home console as scorpio release gets closer, or shortly after scorpio release.

There is a dock, go read the article. Why wouldnt the device just have a hdmi out. Yall act like ya cant read all the sudden

 

[Zukuu]

Hmm interesting. So the dock may be the supplemental computing device? Could it contain extra hardware to make games look nicer on the TV, like an SLI type arrangement?

It needs to, otherwise it wouldn't be a "hybrid" and just a "handheld with video output". It'll probably have dedicated hardware to increase the power to get some AA in and up the resolution to 1080p.

 

[Spy]

By portable and mobile standards, it's not underpowered, and that would seem to be what Nintendo is looking at - the 60 million people who bought the last Nintendo portable vs the 12 million who bought the last Nintendo console. I mean even if the NX is one device that can cast games to a large screen when docked, for all practical intents this sounds like Nintendo exiting traditional game consoles entirely. The rat race for set top box power is no longer their concern, what Nintendo has wanted ever since the end of the Gamecube era.

I really believe Nintendo is misreading the market. Casual gamers aren't going to want a portable console, they already have cell phones.

 

[BitStyle]

HYBRID?!

Everything burns...

Oh well, but I better be impressed with the games you're showing, Nintendo

 

[NSESN]

Fuck i just wanted a cheap 3ds successor

 

[GinoFelino]

I tend to agree.

I don't know how relations are currently between TPC/Nintendo, but could Nintendo actually call it the Nintendo Go and get away with it? Could Niantic own the name partially?

But if they can work it out, Nintendo would be foolish not to capitalise on the Go name.

 

[heringer]

Quoting for new page.

So it's just two 360's tapped together?