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[Tabarin]

Welp... im disappointed

 

[Gitaroo]

DF uploaded this video at the perfect time, https://youtu.be/qm16p4qYjF4

Don't expect nx to be much of an upgrade over wiiU, maybe downgrade even.

 

[TheSpoiler]

indie and jap devs already have their spaces, they don't need the NX

Yeah, I'm not sure Japan will suddenly move over to a smaller market base when they themselves are just now getting a foothold.

I suspect ports and such, but it's going to be a hard sell.

 

[Brofield]

we've heard the screen is bookended by two controller sections on either side, which can be attached or detached as required.

Okay, so what you're saying is we might get custom controllers?

I'm reading this as the potential option to choose between symmetric and assymetric joysticks, between diamond buttons or the grand return of the GameCube bean button layout.

Probably not a high chance, but holy shit would I pay big bucks for that

 

[Parham]

I wonder how the battery would work across the screen and controller. Are there effectively 2-3 separate batteries?

Uhh, what? So when the system is docked and you wanted to play a game with the controller, would they snap together? Would you have to hold each piece in each hand? How would this work for two-player games when the controllers aren't symmetrical? I hope this is just the illustration and not how the system actually functions.

It's possible they would function like the Wiimote + Nunchuck, albeit without the cable connecting the two.

 

[Vuze]

And most importantly.....

NO MORE MONSTER HUNTER GAMES WITH WII ERA ASSETS.

we did it fam!

You mean PS2 era assets right?
Also, no. You better bet Capcpom will still be using that ancient shit especially since NX is still a relatively low power console. More importantly however: Big screen hunting with a controller!

 

[Plinko]

It's clear what he means, and it's also what this whole thing sounds like to me. This is a handheld that has the added benefit of having a TV output. It's more of a 3DS successor than anything else. It's clear where Nintendo is hedging their bets.



And if it's an X1? You'll get nothing.

You know what, "insiders" have been saying all kinds of shit about the NX for a long time, so I wouldn't put any faith on any of them myself.

Why would they have active cooling and fans for an X1?

 

[ThirstiestGamer 2.0]

Yeah, my concern would have to be the battery life as well.

If they can make it last at least a few hours at a time, I'm game.

 

[jroc74]

well shield has to deal with android ...

This reminds me....so whats the guesses at the OS its running? I still say some fork of Android.

 

[suaveric]

No BC. Ouch. Hope that's not the case.

No BC was always going to happen, at least as far as the Wii U was concerned. They had to get off that old Power PC based hardware.

 

[Peléo]

Is this a complete list? I'd thought there were many more games beyond these.

There are. I got this from a list of all games published by Nintendo, I just highlighted the biggest ones from each year in both platforms. 2013, for example, only in the WiiU also had Game Wario, Lego City Undercover, Mario Party U, Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate, Mario Sonic Olympic Games, Sonic Lost World, Rayman Legends, NES Remix, Dr. Luigi, Pokemon Rumble U, Animal Crossing Plaza, Inazuma Eleven 3, Bravely Default, Daigasso Band Brothers, Professor Layton.

Here is the complete list if you want to look: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_products_published_by_Nintendo

 

[NingenJanai]

But will it finally have a capacitive touch screen?

 

[oti]

This to me is the only objectively terrible part of this rumor.

There is no reason to have detachable controllers. It's just asking for shit to break and for it to be less comfortable. Simply give us a Pro Controller as well and don't have the handheld come apart at all. It just complicates things and dramatically increases the chances for hardware failure or loss.

What if it could also be your phone?

 

[MasterShotgun]

I'm entirely unsure how to feel about this, except I guess I will need to get a Wii U after all. I was really hoping for BC.

 

[Stanng243]

I hope this fails hard and Nintendo makes an actual console. Not this monstrosity I'll never buy.

 

[NESpowerhouse]

Lol @ the people claiming this son of a bitch will use Polaris.

 

[sixteen-bit]

Tom Phillips @tomphillipsEG
Here's the Nintendo NX design (NB: not Nintendo's illustration, but useful pic of concept)

doesn't seem too ergonomic

I hope this fails hard and Nintendo makes an actual console. Not this monstrosity I'll never buy.

3rd pillar strategy

wonder if it's more ds that virtual boy tho

 

[Yoshi]

So NX will have the great opportunity to offer tech that cannot stand as a console, because it is significantly weaker than Xbox One, yet cannot stand as a handheld either, because the runtime of the system is too low and it is too expensive? Or is Nvidia some kind of technological wizzard?

- for sufficiently well running multiplatform games (e.g. Sonic...) they will need X1 level of tech
- for the handheld audience to not be locked out due to price, they need to hit ~200€
- for the handheld to be viable as a handheld, it must run at least 4-5 hours on one charge.

How is this even remotely viable? What doe the sacrifice? All of these?

 

[HotHamBoy]

Fucking lol at all the posters I would regularly see that were 100% certain it wouldn't be a hybrid

Yeah, not shit.

 

[maxcriden]

There are. I got this from a list of all games published by Nintendo, I just highlighted the biggest ones from each year in both platforms. 2013, for example, only in the WiiU also had Game Wario, Lego City Undercover, Mario Party U, Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate, Mario Sonic Olympic Games, Sonic Lost World, Rayman Legends, NES Remix, Dr. Luigi, Pokemon Rumble U, Animal Crossing Plaza, Inazuma Eleven 3, Bravely Default, Daigasso Band Brothers, Professor Layton.

Here is the complete list if you want to look: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_products_published_by_Nintendo

Oh, gotcha. Thank you!

 

[MysteryQuesadilla]

Can't have standard-size discs on a portable.

Good point. Maybe I don't have an actual idea as to what production costs would be and if they'd be able to keep physical games at the 59.99 MSRP depending on the size, specs, etc. I dunno. It just seems like maybe there's more to this rumor than what's going on.

 

[crinale]

Also you must design the hardware with maximum heat dissipation in mind, that includes not only cooling but consider other things such as durability (rubbers, plastics, chips).

 

[Neuromancer]

How about Portable Nintendo Entertainment System?

I don't see anything wrong with this.

 

[Kyonashi]

I want this so bad. Would be really awesome for playing on my commute and such, and honestly Nintendo platforms have had some of my favourite games of all-time regardless of graphical power so I couldn't care less on that front. In fact with games like Ace Attorney I prefer their DS style to the 3DS titles.

 

[ASIS]

Return of the WIimote?!

That would explain why Link is right handed.

 

[Taker666]

Secondly, I think we are in a time where graphics mean less and less compared to gameplay. Sure hardcore gamers will nitpick, but I don't understand why Nintendo should overprice their system and drive up development costs to appease some hardcore tech gamers.
.

..but this system will be overpriced if you're a console gamer..as you're essentially going to have to eat the extra costs of a handheld you don't want... just to play the games on a television.

 

[McHuj]

They potentially could also sell just a base(with the SOC) and the controller since the screen isn't needed for the controller. You could have a hybrid handheld and a home console.


I wonder if this means we'll see some other alternative controllers as well for different games.

 

[butman]

That looks terrible considering your hands would be hiding some of these buttons. Guy who did that photoshop clearly didn't think about it.

Not sure what's so "god is real" about that lol.

hahaha agree. It was the closer example showing a console zelda game in your hands.

 

[gafneo]

Who cares. This is not powerful. If they wanted to release a new 3DS with ghosting free 3D, I'd buy that too.

 

[DNAbro]

I hope this fails hard and Nintendo makes an actual console. Not this monstrosity I'll never buy.

They won't make what you want.

 

[phanphare]

At the very least, it will get the heavy Square and Capcom support that Nintendo handhelds usually get, which is a fair deal better than the Wii U had.

plus indies, which align with Nintendo's audience well

 

[Asd202]

At the very least, it will get the heavy Square and Capcom support that Nintendo handhelds usually get, which is a fair deal better than the Wii U had.

Hmm SE since Matsuda took over hasn't been supporting Nintendo all that much. Can't really think of much outside DQ.

 

[mclem]

Wouldn't it be problematic to just overclock the handheld whenever it's connected to a TV without some cooling solution?
And assuming it would be, are there any external cooling solutions out there that are genuinely effective?

The thing about most external cooling solutions is that they're aftermarket products applied to something that isn't necessarily designed for external cooling. Having hardware specifically designed to integrate with an external cooling unit should be a more effective prospect.

(All this is in principle, of course. I've no idea if it's something Nintendo would pursue)

 

[Zalman]

Nintendo has always offered a traditional controller, so I'm sure you will be able to buy those if these aren't your thing.

 

[Hero of Legend]

What would be cool to me is is Nvidia and Nintendo would go wild and just tout this being an Nvidia system, where like the main things used would be from them.

For example.

Recommend devs use that instead of Havok, and maybe Nintendo can use it themselves (they occasionally use Havok; in Brawl, Game & Wario, etc).

It could give them benefits like better chip deals and whatnot and a better relationship with Nvidia for future systems, stuff like that.

PhysX has been used before, specifically in Sonic's Wii-exclusives (Secret Rings, Black Knight, and Colors). SR being during the Ageia-era.

 

[GinoFelino]

I hope this fails hard and Nintendo makes an actual console. Not this monstrosity I'll never buy.

Lol. So already it's different enough to inspire this fury. Nintendo doing well, then.

 

[tinfoilhatman]

Sad, Nintendo is finally throwing in the towel on the home console space and now trying to go head to head against iPhone\Android?!?!?!?

Good luck Nintendo, I work in IT and don't know a single person who still plays with their vita or DS, also seriously people actually believe this will get ports from PS4\X1?!?!?!?!?

:-( RIP Nintendo as I've known you for the last 30 years

 

[Aostia]

yes

why this is not reported in the OP?
is just wishful thinking?

 

[NateDrake]

DF uploaded this video at the perfect time, https://youtu.be/qm16p4qYjF4

Don't expect nx to be much of an upgrade over wiiU, maybe downgrade even.

How many more times are people going to post this fucking video in this thread?

 

[Aaronrules380]

So NX will have the great opportunity to offer tech that cannot stand as a console, because it is significantly weaker than Xbox One, yet cannot stand as a handheld either, because the runtime of the system is too low and it is too expensive? Or is Nvidia some kind of technological wizzard?

- for sufficiently well running multiplatform games (e.g. Sonic...) they will need X1 level of tech
- for the handheld audience to not be locked out due to price, they need to hit ~200€
- for the handheld to be viable as a handheld, it must run at least 4-5 hours on one charge.

How is this even remotely viable? What doe the sacrifice? All of these?

You do realize it can run at different performance levels depending on if it's docked or not? That's not particularly new tech, and a handheld doesn't need 1080 p with the smaller screen size

 

[jroc74]

It's not a new concept. That Neo Geo system that came out a few years back was a portable that plugged into a dock that resembled an AES unit, for TV gaming.

Yup.

Not only that, connecting a smartphone to a TV to play games has been done recently. Shield can do it too.

 

[Graphics Horse]

What's the point of including a stand?

Two player games on a tablet are kind of awkward without a stand, it would be a nice feature for use when out and about

 

[VenomousCoffee]

Just from the OP and the concept art above, it sounds like they're making a cross of the WiiU and an iPhone.

No thanks.

 

[NinjaCoachZ]

They've both already done the reverse - let you take your home console onto your portable/mobile.

If they were in Nintendo's shoes, the apparent NX approach (portable-first) would make sense for their business. As is it wouldn't.

I'm not referring to literally the same strategy (i.e. the portable-first approach you mention).

Sony and Microsoft have dabbled in that kind of thing (e.g. Remote Play, Microsoft's new emphasis on getting a game on both Xbox and Windows 10) but their attempts have always required multiple devices. Don't you think they'd be at least curious about how they can cast a wider net with the convenience of one device? I'm not saying "yeah, they're totally going to steal it", but I can get why if this works out it's only natural that other companies are going to see what they can do with the concept. That's what happens with new ideas.

 

[plentyofmilhouse]

This is what I want. Please let this be it.

 

[TM25]

I've always preferred their handhelds, so this could be good. Having all their series consolidated in one place can only be a good thing.

Need 3 or 4 must buy games. If they are there day 1 then so will I.

 

[sikkinixx]

This better be cheap.

 

[Enduin]

What if it could also be your phone?

That would be terrible. If someone wants to subject themselves to that, well have fun with that, but not me.

 

[catmario]

Just dance on NX would be interesting if NX handheld rumor is true.

 

[RiggyRob]

Well shit, this thread exploded.

Detachable controllers doesn't give a great deal of faith in them moving away from the non-standard Wiimote controller, rather it seems like they're doubling down on it.