Mihos
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I envisioned more of a Vita/Vita TV type thing when he said that. Maybe they looked at the Vita TV reception and changed their mind.
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Eurogamer: NX = portable w/ carts, detachable controllers, Tegra, TV Out, no BC, Sept
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I envisioned more of a Vita/Vita TV type thing when he said that. Maybe they looked at the Vita TV reception and changed their mind.
Nah, I think they're just reacting to market norms that are almost a decade old at this point.
People simply don't use physical media for portable devices anymore. Period.
The idea of carrying a cashe of cartridges around in 2016 just sounds...antiquated.
With the supplemental computing device stuff, what if the dock can get it to go as powerful as a PS4 or even Scorpio and Neo. Which could be why the power rumors have been all over the place
Then all companies will be in the same boat with power on all different levels, from low power NX to XB1 to PS4 and High power NX, Neo and Scorpio
Everybody is happy
Then all companies will be in the same boat with power on all different levels, from low power NX to XB1 to PS4 and High power NX, Neo and Scorpio
Everybody is happy
Huge Succeeded
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You should make a thread about why we ought to switch over to cartridges entirely, lol.
DrROBschiz
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Yeah this is a bad video of what to expect
TheMagician
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I wonder how 10k is feeling right now?
You mean the portable itself right? I presume they'll be bundled for $250-300. I doubt there I'll be a HH only model at launch, but if so then I'd say HH $200-250 and dock $50-100 more? I can't imagine they'll want to price out HH only or HH preferring consumers if they do only offer a bundle.
OrbitalBeard
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So yeah, now I need Sonic Mania to come to NX. That game on a portable = HNNNNNGGGG
stan423321
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Having stuff "perma-split" is a usability nightmare. Also it's already a problem to get people to carry one other thing than keys, wallet and their main phone.
"Just doing a phone" though would be a marketing nightmare. It would either fail HARD or would have to run relatively unmodified Android.
The cost of games is worrying. Compared to piece of plastic (Blu Ray), cartridges will have to be made in more limited quantities. We're not talking 1-2GB flash cards used in 3DS (guessing here). 32GB will add substantial cost to game distribution. In may not seem like a big of a problem in USA or Japan but in other regions it a different story.
But cartidges make sense since it's a handheld device.
I know power isn't the main thing, but to be honest, this thing needs 3 things.
*An external GPU in the TV dock: It needs to be on par with at least the PS4Neo IMO
*An actual controller. - I'm really worried that the controls are gonna be like wii motes where you have to hold each control stick to play
*It needs to be easy to develop for. - Simple, easy. Does anyone know or have an idea on how easy this might be?
I'm also interested in the name, wonder what that'll be.
*An external GPU in the TV dock: It needs to be on par with at least the PS4Neo IMO
*An actual controller. - I'm really worried that the controls are gonna be like wii motes where you have to hold each control stick to play
*It needs to be easy to develop for. - Simple, easy. Does anyone know or have an idea on how easy this might be?
I'm also interested in the name, wonder what that'll be.
inb4 Portable Entertainment System. PNES
Papacheeks
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Why couldn't they have come in with a clean slate? XBox is doing bad because the company fucked up, and over the course of a decade didn't make any big changes or partnerships for games outside certain regions. Also they marketed their product to be more of A US/UK device. Nintendo is universal brand that just needs to have a clear message. PS3 fucked up and took them a whole generation to really get back on track, but even then they had issues with online, architecture, and piss poor documentation from japan.
They refocused, gave control to their american branch to work with Japan, and the result is PS4.
Blackberry is another xbox, they fucked up and didn't capitailze on changes in the market. WHich is on them, same with microsoft and same with nintendo.
3rd party support probably won't be worse than Wii U, but it'll probably be worse than 3DS. It's really a weird device if they want to sell $60 games though.
But your programming for your console not 100's of separate pieces of hardware. Everyone gets the same experience plus cheaper to develop.
JayBabay
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Can't help but feel underwhelmed. It's going to be interesting to see how Nintendo pulls this one off.
If it is the next GameBoy for them then it needs to be priced accordingly. If it's to compete along with another handheld from them then I can't see this doing that well.
It seems they are trying to capture that iPad market that has become more popular with kids than handhelds.
If it is the next GameBoy for them then it needs to be priced accordingly. If it's to compete along with another handheld from them then I can't see this doing that well.
It seems they are trying to capture that iPad market that has become more popular with kids than handhelds.
Then just buy the games digitally?
It's what I've been doing with my 3DS and Vita, and that works just fine. The cartridge slot existing has never hurt my gaming experience.
KurtSloane
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Odd and very Nintendo.
But it is going to tank.
But it is going to tank.
Huge Succeeded
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Fair enough, but I'm lost as to what they believe the alternative to be, in that case. It surely isn't optical media, and you probably wouldn't be able to download a library of console-sized games to a handheld device's internal storage, either.
I did it for you quickly
Wuold be the size of a Vita when buttons out, smaller when slided in i guess.
So when the two controllers come off the back, one has buttons on the left side that that other has on the right side? Or its two sticks side by side and two sets of buttons? Or...both are mega tiny controllers?
Thank you for the mock-up!
HabDashCine
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Thoughts on them calling it "NintendoGo?" Or some iteration on that? Seems fitting and topical.
Already Torn
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But phones come in different shapes and have different ports. You'd need a million different versions of the hardware, and none of them feel right. I really doubt this would ever happen.
Jo Shishido's Cheeks
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Console of my dreams!
Well done Nintendo for at last being logical when it comes to hardware.
WTF was Iwata talking about when he said it wouldn't be a handheld though...?
Well done Nintendo for at last being logical when it comes to hardware.
WTF was Iwata talking about when he said it wouldn't be a handheld though...?
autoduelist
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Serious question -- why is this classified as a 'hybrid' and not just a 'portable with tv out'.
I mean, I could hook my PSP up to the tv,and it was still a handheld. If the vita had a tv out, would it be a hybrid? What is the PSTV? A console since it requires a tv, or a hybrid since it's a vita?
Conceptually, I -love- the idea of a true hybrid. I wish my vita had a tv out from the get go. However, I don't like the idea of detachable controllers.
I'd much rather the 'portable' form was ergonomically designed for the best handheld control configuration, and rather than detaching them to play on TV, you simply bought a secondary controller and synched it.
I mean, I could hook my PSP up to the tv,and it was still a handheld. If the vita had a tv out, would it be a hybrid? What is the PSTV? A console since it requires a tv, or a hybrid since it's a vita?
Conceptually, I -love- the idea of a true hybrid. I wish my vita had a tv out from the get go. However, I don't like the idea of detachable controllers.
I'd much rather the 'portable' form was ergonomically designed for the best handheld control configuration, and rather than detaching them to play on TV, you simply bought a secondary controller and synched it.
Askherserenity
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Yeah, sorry. Meant selling the handheld by itself if the dock does increase performance.
Only reason I say this is in case they want to keep the price down for some people.
The Wii U didn't. Some bullshit.
Elven_Star
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When can we expect more/official information on this? Stuff like price, release date, 3rd party support, etc. are going to be crucial. Don't know why people are condemning it to hell already knowing next to nothing about it 
I would reveal it officially ASAP if I were Nintendo.
I would reveal it officially ASAP if I were Nintendo.Bluetooth
That wasn't the question.
Mihos
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I am not downloading 32gigs of data per game. I am also not interested in a digital only console.... period
Guys that's not my mockup it's Eradicate one
I knew i shouldn't have done that lol
Awesome! Just tinkered with a New 3DS to recreate it as that's what I was sort of envisioning too:
I knew i shouldn't have done that lol
Huge Succeeded
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Well, there's the fact that the controls break off from the console when you dock it, and you'll probably be able to sync more controllers to it, too.
Already Torn
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But phones come in a million different shapes too. And think of the messy charging wires charging the thing while its sitting in the dock (which isn't actually doing anything because it's using Bluetooth?)
Mediking
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Stop the lies.
I have my 3DS in my old school Gameboy Advance carrying thingie with all my physical games. It's not a hassle to carry around. My Vita and it's physical games are in my Persona Q 3DS case.
Gotcha. In that case, yeah, I can't imagine a HH only is going to be more than $250 at absolute most, and then that's a dangerous game given how 3DS did initially. Then it comes down to whether they sell HH separately at launch or only bundled with the dock. Being forced to spend an extra $100 for the console dock might out off HH only players.
When can we expect more/official information on this? Stuff like price, release date, 3rd party support, etc are going to be crucial. Don't know why people are condemning it to hell already without knowing next to nothing about it
The article says September. Sadly we're over a month away from official info if it's right.
I pulled up a number of old reviews for the Surface Pro, it was treated as a souped up tablet much more so than anything resembling a laptop despite the full OS.
That's really besides the point though because the Surface Pro wasn't a runaway success either. So really if Nintendo was modeling any sort of business strategy off Microsoft, it would be the Surface Book.
Dorsal Axe
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So NX = Nintendo Cross?
Given Nintendo's comments in the past (adamant that NX is a home console), I kind of wonder if there will be multiple NX systems, with different form-factors and power, and the games just scale performance to the hardware (N3DS could be considered a lite test run of the concept for their teams). This would be the handheld NX, which can turn into a sort of ad hoc home console, and there might be a less portable more home-oriented device later on.
Given Nintendo's comments in the past (adamant that NX is a home console), I kind of wonder if there will be multiple NX systems, with different form-factors and power, and the games just scale performance to the hardware (N3DS could be considered a lite test run of the concept for their teams). This would be the handheld NX, which can turn into a sort of ad hoc home console, and there might be a less portable more home-oriented device later on.
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