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Eurogamer: NX = portable w/ carts, detachable controllers, Tegra, TV Out, no BC, Sept
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With a ~5" screen and a dual thumbstick setup with, 4 face buttons and d-pad they could technically get away with a 7" x 3" system. Not exactly small, but not that big either.
My phone is 6" x 3" and comfortably fits in all my clothes, though it's also like .35" thick and I'm sure that this will be a good deal thicker than that.
Just getting into the fray. So basically what we expected. Nintendo wasn't chasing power, but an innovative concept that would help their two divisions play ball with each other. Excellent.
i'm guessing 650-700gflops, 4GB DDR3, and some lower variant CPU.
Might buy if they get good support for it. AND FINALLY THEY STICK WITH A NORMAL CONTROL SCHEME!
Imma have this thing hooked up to my TV247, who bothers to run around outside with a handheld these days when there are phones?
i'm guessing 650-700gflops, 4GB DDR3, and some lower variant CPU.
Might buy if they get good support for it. AND FINALLY THEY STICK WITH A NORMAL CONTROL SCHEME!
Imma have this thing hooked up to my TV247, who bothers to run around outside with a handheld these days when there are phones?
compare all the handheld nintendo games in a franchise to their console counterpart and tell me that they aren't vastly different, deeper and more fulfilling experiences on the console
It's less assuming & more hoping. If the NX is docked, then battery won't really be an issue, so that's why people are hoping that a dock would at least bring the system up to Xbox One levels when playing on the TV.
SinCityAssassin
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As long as the OS and developers tools are very welcoming to third parties, then it will get some third party.
ArchedThunder
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Speculation based off of a patent.
RomanceDawn
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I hope they are one in the same! With more secondary computing devices to come in the future.
Green Mamba
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Most Wii U games throw off TV play as an afterthought. Portable considerations are more than just graphical considerations. All of the games will have to be designed as portable games just as well as console games, and the ecosystems and play styles for both are different. Everything about this just sounds like console Nintendo is disappearing in place of more handheld influence.
PeakPointMatrix
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TreasureHunterG
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RIP Nintendo
DigitalScrap
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Which is honestly completely pointless on a device that size and just causes more battery drain.
If it doesn't, the tv experience will be really shitty..
Right, I'm confused by that also. I believe there was a tweet saying there are two separate detachable controllers included as part of the HH. Somnid I believe it was mentioned a tweet indicating these controllers will have four buttons & a stick each, but I haven't seen that one yet (not disputing him, just can't access Twitter at work and I haven't seen it copied/pasted in here yet). Others however have speculated or done mock-ups I think basically indicating that each controller could partially slide under the screen, so when detached they'd be a bit larger than they might otherwise appear. But, these I think are going to have to be decently on the small side as controllers go because I just am very skeptical that there will be a default HH significantly larger than the N3DSXL, what with the JP market preference for smaller portables (as I understand it).
Regarding the detachable controllers, it remains to be seen whether these are the main intended controllers for the NX at home or are separate optional controllers in a pinch. I imagine there will be a very regular kind of controller packed in for at-home play and that these detachables will be secondary. But perhaps not, assuming they have sufficient controller features to handle all sorts of games and their myriad button needs.
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Possible system name: Nintendo Stay'r'Go.
Goose_Se7en
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I don't wanna speak ill but I'll have to wait and see exactly what this is. Just not buying into the idea of this hybrid console. Nintendo with one of its gimmicks again.
It's quite unlikely that it will have a sustained throughput of 600-700 GFLOPs in a portable configuration.
Bitch Pudding
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They actually had to make some severe compromises to get both worlds into one device.
Sorry if I'm late with this, but GameXplain uploaded their impressions of the NX rumors (be warned, it's a little over an hour long).
Vanillalite
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It wouldn't be DDR3. One cause of the handheld so it's LPDDR not standard desktop DDR. Two Eurogamer got their info wrong. All of the X1 units so far have shipped with LPDDR4. So that's the minimum we'd get either with X1 or the new chip which people are using X2 as shorthand for.
Andalus0880
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Agreed 100%.
This is such a massive disappointment. I can't believe what I'm reading. They've successfully managed to maintain a sub 0.5 Tflop era over a 10-12 year period. This is going to bomb harder than WiiU. F'n Terrible.
Inglorious_ Man
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You see a lot of Japanese developed games for both Vita and PS4. The NX is replacing the 3ds as the the main handheld so I do think that Japanese developers that supported the 3ds will develop games for the NX.
Proelite
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10k is still adamant about an AMD console on twitter for the core.
Even if Nintendo justified to themselves the cost of designing and manufacturing a traditional console in addition to a portable console itself, why go with a different manufacturer when Nvidia can do the work as well if not better.
Nvidia 16nm FF Pascal parts are eating AMD's lunch. If Scorpio / Neo had Pascal parts they would be 6TF and 8TF+ consoles.
The moving goalposts have engines on them.
Even if Nintendo justified to themselves the cost of designing and manufacturing a traditional console in addition to a portable console itself, why go with a different manufacturer when Nvidia can do the work as well if not better.
Nvidia 16nm FF Pascal parts are eating AMD's lunch. If Scorpio / Neo had Pascal parts they would be 6TF and 8TF+ consoles.
The moving goalposts have engines on them.
Dude, eff the haters. I think this is great news and will gladly buy it maybe day 1 depending on finances. Of course, whether this succeeds or fails will be based on its library as with every console, but I think the concept for the console itself is fine.
Edit: Of course, this could all be fake news and we could still be getting a traditional console which I am also okay with.
Edit: Of course, this could all be fake news and we could still be getting a traditional console which I am also okay with.
This is a portable powerful enough to offer console experiences. You know, like playing WiiU games on your GamePad screen, a feature in virtually every WiiU game. And you can play them on the TV, too, in which case it's effectively a WiiU Deluxe.
Also, 3DS has a ton of console-grade experiences, i.e. the Fire Emblem series, Animal Crossing, the Kirby games, etc.
ArchedThunder
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It's a handheld. That power is really nice.
1 in 5.
Yeah the main problem I am thinking with this is why wouldn't they just do it as a handheld along these lines and then a somewhat souped up home console version.
Handheld 720p or bellow, home consoles at 1080p. Fully shared library. Both devices designed specifically for their intended task. No removable controllers, no design compromises around size/power envelope/cost.
It's entirely possible this report is completely wrong, or that several wires have been crossed.
If the dock does provide additional power, it'll surely be fairly expensive (it can't just be a GPU, it would need to at least have a CPU and RAM), so why not just allow it to function as a standalone console? Why force people who don't want a handheld to buy one? The dock would have to be sold separately anyway.
Handheld 720p or bellow, home consoles at 1080p. Fully shared library. Both devices designed specifically for their intended task. No removable controllers, no design compromises around size/power envelope/cost.
It's entirely possible this report is completely wrong, or that several wires have been crossed.
If the dock does provide additional power, it'll surely be fairly expensive (it can't just be a GPU, it would need to at least have a CPU and RAM), so why not just allow it to function as a standalone console? Why force people who don't want a handheld to buy one? The dock would have to be sold separately anyway.
Because folks don't want to let go of the AMD rumors. They'll wait until Nintendo specifically says that NX is a handheld/console. Trev/MetalDave is clinging to GAF insiders of whatever they told him, and Iwata's previous comments. Nothing will change until Nintendo denies the existence of another console, and even then it'll just be a "Nintendo is lying..." type of thing.
Proelite
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4TF+ with ram.
I never take the 3DS out of my house, except for those rare times when we play local multiplayer at a friend's.
I'm going to quote this again so that people realize this isn't launching with the X1 in any capacity:
They are overclocking and actively cooling the X1 beyond stock parameters and passive cooling. That means it well above its marked performance threshold, so throwing around performance numbers for the thing is at this point entirely meaningless.
Whatever is in the NX, its not going to be an overclocked chip with active cooling. They're not going to suddenly start downclocking what they are overclocking either, the dev kits have a temporary solution for meeting expected performance windows and they are doing this by overclocking an X1 which is readily available.
This is highly indicative (along with the sudden 2016 to 2017 delay) of a 16nm custom or X2 chip rather than the current X1.
They are overclocking and actively cooling the X1 beyond stock parameters and passive cooling. That means it well above its marked performance threshold, so throwing around performance numbers for the thing is at this point entirely meaningless.
Whatever is in the NX, its not going to be an overclocked chip with active cooling. They're not going to suddenly start downclocking what they are overclocking either, the dev kits have a temporary solution for meeting expected performance windows and they are doing this by overclocking an X1 which is readily available.
This is highly indicative (along with the sudden 2016 to 2017 delay) of a 16nm custom or X2 chip rather than the current X1.
Schnozberry
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Who said they were worried about Sony or Microsoft specifically? Lots of other companies might be interested in this idea.
The more I've let this sink in the more I couldn't be happier. The fact that the 8th generation of Pokemon could look better than a Wii U game is mind bogglingly awesome, especially as my fave gen, 4, should be up for a remake next. While this'll be years away, I'm still super stoked.
Wow didn't know GAF hate handheld so much. I LOVE handhelds, and I don't play them on the go. I play them in my bed. This news is music to my ears. I always wanted to buy Nintendo home console but I just can't justify buying a new console next to my Playstation. Now I can finally get all the Nintendo output on one platform.
DecoReturns
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Well that's one way to get my console Fire Emblem.
I've become more of a handheld gamer and don't care for power at all. Sounds exciting.
I've become more of a handheld gamer and don't care for power at all. Sounds exciting.
Jonneh3003
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Askherserenity
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Well...this is the whole point of this new console.
You do realize we're getting Zelda (a console game) on the NX right?
MrPhiliasfrog
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I love Nintendo for trying to do something different.
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