GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
I didn't want to be specific and spoil anything. I was referring to the Atlas stones more than anything. They need cutting down in price.
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No Man's Sky Spoiler Thread
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I didn't want to be specific and spoil anything. I was referring to the Atlas stones more than anything. They need cutting down in price.
/u/daymeeuhn on Reddit, original leaker, said he has never seen this easy platinum to get. Said he has few ships to destroy and he will ding platinum with basically zero effort.
Vincent Grayson
Member
Zero effort...aside from the like, 40+ hours he's played the game.
Some games, I would argue most, have actually difficult trophies that you need to go out your way to complete in order to get 100% and/or Platinum. If you just roll your face on KB or pad for few hours to ding 100% / Platinum that is some lazy ass trophy design.
imo
PositronicMan
Member
Again we're back to heavily scrutinizing ONE (1) person's rushed playthrough of a game that'll most likely be patched come launch.
Can we all just seriously wait 8 days and see what the official release brings?
Can we all just seriously wait 8 days and see what the official release brings?
SlickShoes
Member
Just roll your face on the keyboard for 40 hours.
SenkiDala
Member
Well I absolutly agree with you but to most of people the time you need to get the trophies doesn't count. On every trophy guide I've seen on internet, I often see "Difficulty to get the Plat: 1/10, time to get it: 100/200h"... Wtf! xD Trohpies difficulty is scored on how much skill it asks, not how long it gets to get them. I agree that time should count.
Anyway I kinda don't care trophies or achievements anymore (I did between 2005/2008).
Worked in WoW raiding and in OW ranked so why not here :b
stump sock
Member
I mean I watched like 3 hours of another dude playing the game last night and it backed up pretty much everything the other guy said. I think it's pretty clear what the game is at this point.
a patch isn't going to "fix" that.
CyclopsRock
Member
What do you want the spoiler thread to be in the mean time?
They've been working on it for 4 years. How much do you think is getting changed in the last 8 days?
Tal Shiar Agent
Banned
There is nothing to "fix".* The game is exactly what the pre-release material says it is.
*Except the technical issues.
*Except the technical issues.
I so hope FOV and LOD issues can be fixed in PC version. Devs not saying a word about port or even showing it is bad sign tho, expecting 1:1 with PS4 version.
PositronicMan
Member
To be fair, we're talking one Galaxy, of which both streamers visited a smattering of planets, in a list of galaxies that stretches almost indefinitely, so while their observations deserve some merit, statistically we've seen a super small sample of what is out there.
The gameplay mechanics that are at issue here, can indeed be fixed with a patch. We're mainly talking about moving some sliders from one end of the spectrum to the other, all of which can easily be remedied with a patch.
For a game of this scope, I feel like the true consensus won't come until a few days after launch when a greater player base is able to divine a pattern.
Until then, most of you are grossly speculating some aspects of all of this, that we'll never have the answer to until after release.
The gameplay mechanics that are at issue here, can indeed be fixed with a patch. We're mainly talking about moving some sliders from one end of the spectrum to the other, all of which can easily be remedied with a patch.
For a game of this scope, I feel like the true consensus won't come until a few days after launch when a greater player base is able to divine a pattern.
Until then, most of you are grossly speculating some aspects of all of this, that we'll never have the answer to until after release.
Meanwhile we had more streams of the game.
As do you assuming that other galaxies are the real deal.
stump sock
Member
I'm dead serious when I say I'm not buying the game if you can't adjust the FOV, either officially or through hacks. even watching the streams was uncomfortable. Procedurally generated motion sickness.
PositronicMan
Member
There will most definitely be mod support and patch support, so I don't see you waiting that long.
I don't think it's overhyped, just overpriced. $60 for this game seems high. It's too bad, the reviews are probably going to be savage due to the lack of value proposition here.
I'm personally willing to give it a chance if we are talking 60%+ meta, which I think is very generous. It just continuous to amaze the general lack of quality in the games Sony is pushing out there this gen compared to Microsoft.
Oh yeah, that FOV looks smaller than console standard. Looks like 40-ish instead of your normal console 55. For me minimum is around 80, I prefer 90-95 depending on game.
Still even with that tiny ass FOV game has some serious LOD issues so saved rendering power isn't helping there, possible engine "feature" with its streaming engine that could be mitigated with SSD. Hopefully.
Edit:
I wouldn't hold my breath for mod support or even .ini hacks. Devs are way too silent about port.
SlickShoes
Member
It depends massively on what you want from the game really. I paid £40 for Elite Dangerous and played it as a mostly solo experience, I felt it was worth the money.
On paper this looks like it has more content to it than that but with arcadey flying rather than flight sim level stuff.
Turin Turambar
Member
Vincent Grayson
Member
What do you mean by "the real deal"? We know the game has multiple galaxies.
Unless you're referring to the speculative "things get weirder/harder" thing that people are now assuming about successive galaxies after the first. It's true, there's no reason to just assume that.
stump sock
Member
watching trees pop in 2 feet in front of the streamer's face was pretty funny. hopefully it's nowhere near as bad on pc.
PositronicMan
Member
I don't really get the contention with the price point. The first leaker spent 35 hours to complete the first "loop" of the game. That was rushing over a 3 day period. A lot of $60 games don't even offer that much gameplay time these days.
Also, if you're paying $60 for a retail copy these days you're not taking advantage of GCU and Amazon Prime, which everyone here should be. I can't remember the last time I paid full retail price for a game.
travisbickle
Member
I think it will take months. It's an open-universe sandbox game, yet people have decided going to the centre is the definitive thing which means if you follow the line you witness everything.
stump sock
Member
crazy, you'd almost think they'd been told for over a year that that was the entire point.
Game minimum spec being i3, 8GB and GTX480 has me expecting worst aka lazy 1:1 port.
PositronicMan
Member
It may take months, but knowing that some people have an absurd amount of time to devote to games, and also including professional streamers that play games as their day job, it may be much less time than that now.
I'm sure the PC version will be datamined within the first few weeks as well. :/
I think you must be playing different consoles to me.
Is Elite randomly generated, though?
My perception, which might be almost totally wrong, is that NMS' structure is a huge, sprawling randomly generated mess. So it will be fun for a good chunk of time, but get old very quickly due to repetition. I'm thinking 1980s RPGs with their weird, nonsensical randomly generated dungeons.
This kind of thing works well for an arcade priced title or multiplayer game, but is a tough pill to swallow otherwise. I'd be happy to eat crow, I was one of the people who fell in love with the initial unveil of the game. Definitely not a preorder friendly game though, in terms of being a guaranteed quality title.
Usually a bad port would imply poor performance even on super high specs.
That is one type of bad port, yes. With NMS I'm afraid devs just take PS4 version and port it over as 1:1 to PC and only test that it runs. Not adding stuff like increased LOD loading ranges and faster so you don't see land rendering 5m in front of you as you move or option to increase FOV from PS4 versions vomit inducing one.
Oh it was. Ok.
Here are 180000000000000 Planets. Pls follow this path and ignore all of em
Yeah, I wonder from where the people took the idea that they need to go to the centre of the galaxy? There's no way the developer of the game had hyped that to no end.
My understanding is they develop on PC, and backport to PS4. In many of the media demonstrations, for example, they used PCs - saying that the PS4 version was too unstable at the time.
Of course, I've no idea what options (if any) they put in the PC version.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
To be fair, at least now people are acknowledging it has an objective.
Vincent Grayson
Member
It being the main goal and people rushing to it is no big surprise. People do this shit with every new game, and the fact that this isn't a story-heavy game with seemingly one big mystery (what's at the center?) should make it that much more obvious why someone might do that.
But certainly we must also realize that rushing to "endgame" in a game about exploration is going to result in some skewed views of the game.
Hopefully they do right thing here and give PC review copies to people like TotalBiscuit. No matter what you think about his views on things he does put out good content and port reports which really show off game options and performance.
Edit: Uploading your discoveries into games database gives you in-game moneys, cool. Renaming function is playing with fire tho.
I don't disagree with most of your posts, but this is really untrue. It's possible to play the entire thing without setting foot on a planet (except your starting one which is forced). You can just flip resources, trading in space, or be a pirate if you want. There are actual game systems and an economy (however flawed/broken) behind the game. The devs want to be challenging you all the time while on-planet too (even if it sounds like this barely worked for the leaked players).
It's your choice, man. You can go laterally. Go anywhere you want.
See above
travisbickle
Member
He never really hyped it, he said it's something people will do and will give closure.
Also, what I said was that travelling to the centre won't provide you with every surprise in the game, which some people are implying because they don't believe there's anything beyond the twitch streamer's experience.
You start, you crash on a planet, your ship is broke. You get told to collect different resources, some which you recraft, you fix your ship and hyperdrive, you fly off to a beacon on another close by planet. You find the beacon, have to collect some resources, you fly off to a meeting place. You meet somebody you who can't understand. You collect more resources from more planets to keep reaching more dudes closer to the center, which involves more survival (using resources). Each planet as one biome as you're encouraged to keep exploring different planets. You can also trade resources.
This isn't a commentary on the game being good or bad, this is from watching the various streams of people playing.
Tatsumi Oga
Banned
Any footage at all or is it all deleted?
Tatsumi Oga
Banned
Link?
stump sock
Member
or it would be if the odds of anybody ever finding Planet Turdfucker weren't so hilariously low.
Yeah, and trophies do not equate to fun, or a meaningful experience, soooo
I'm glad they're basic af
CyclopsRock
Member
For me I think the idea of "exploring all these planets" has an allure, but only if they offer something interesting. Having billions of planets isn't all that exciting if going to them isn't fun. I'm hearing a lot about how the buildings are all samey etc. It doesn't really sound like it's going to be full of mystery and yeah this guy obviously hasn't visited all the planets, but then nor is anyone. If he's spent 35 hours playing it and those are his experiences, then they may well be mine when I spend 35 hours in it too.
I think in my heart of hearts, I know that a procedurally generated game can't really engender a place with "mystery" a la Indy walking into an un-opened-for-2000-years tomb, because that requires hand crafting. Even Destiny, which has its repetitive dungeons, was able to do that quite well, but that's because they were able to lead you down a (metaphorical) path before showing you the goods. That's just not possible when it's procedurally generated, I think. Which is a shame.
I think in my heart of hearts, I know that a procedurally generated game can't really engender a place with "mystery" a la Indy walking into an un-opened-for-2000-years tomb, because that requires hand crafting. Even Destiny, which has its repetitive dungeons, was able to do that quite well, but that's because they were able to lead you down a (metaphorical) path before showing you the goods. That's just not possible when it's procedurally generated, I think. Which is a shame.