Support NeoGAF

[JP]

So basically the game is still in early access for the next couple of months.

Well, more content is a good thing.

Not sure I'd used those words. They've been pretty open all along that this game won't be be a static game and that it will continually evolve and have new things added. The game a year from now may have evolved quite a bit from the game people will be playing at launch.

Because of the type of game that it is, it sounds like a really good way of doing things.

 

[Guymelef]

Man, lots of big changes from base game.
Now I understand why they want reviewers to play it with this patch only.

 

[Zombie James]

Holy shit, this sounds like one hell of a day one update. And temporal AA coming soon, too. Awesome.

 

[arts&crafts]

mother of god

 

[icespide]

interesting different takes developing in this thread:

1) that's a huge patch and it's awesome that they are adding so much stuff to it, it bodes well for future support

2) the game is barely finished and is basically in early-access

 

[0racle]

My space balls are tingling;

 

[ymgve]

And they did all of that in the last two months. I might get the game on both PC and PS4 in sympathy for the devs' lack of sleep during that crunch time. (Also to get it a few days earlier, you know)

 

[Gamespawn]

Yea I think at some point "mp" will come in some form.

What if.... the center of the universe is a gateway to another dimension?

Spoiler

Colony Wars

 

[OuterLimits]

They weren't kidding when they said the on-disc version wasn't what they wanted people to play. The massive improvements in shadows and pop in would be worth it alone.

So why release a physical version then, or just delay the game until they can put those features on disc? Some don't have reliable internet connection and would essentially be paying full price for getting a game Sean does not think is good enough to play?

 

[Zombie James]

So basically the game is still in early access for the next couple of months.

Well, more content is a good thing.

So any game that gets patched or gets new features is early access? Ridiculous.

 

[Chezzymann]

Am I the only one who's hyped for dead moons? I want to re create the Apollo landing

Better be low gravity

 

[diaspora]

So why release a physical version then, or just delay the game until they can put those features on disc? Some don't have reliable internet connection and would essentially be paying full price for getting a game Sean does not think is good enough to play?

TBH I think this game would be better if it: didn't have to deal with disk release nonsense, certification

 

[icespide]

So why release a physical version then, or just delay the game until they can put those features on disc? Some don't have reliable internet connection and would essentially be paying full price for getting a game Sean does not think is good enough to play?

this is an issue for practically all high profile games nowadays

 

[Ferr986]

So why release a physical version then, or just delay the game until they can put those features on disc? Some don't have reliable internet connection and would essentially be paying full price for getting a game Sean does not think is good enough to play?

That's probably more Sony's fault. Game got delayed to much and wanted to release it already.

Game file is really small (6 GB and most of it is music) so patches should be smaller than usual anyways.

 

[somecrazymember]

I feel like this game could have been delayed a bit more.

 

[N° 2048]

I'm so glad I didn't start any new games in the past couple weeks.

This game is going to eat my life.

 

[ItsDorf]

Love everything I see so far, however, I just really wish they would make it so you do get to see a few other individuals throughout your journey. This would be fantastic experience being alone for a few hours then you spot another person.

They could be friendly you could spend a few minutes with them on one planet, fight off and discover new items and creatures together than when they leave the planet your own your own again.

Or they could be hostile and you would have to fight them off on the planet and either get in your ship to run away or kill them and get the loot they found on that planet your on!

 

[5taquitos]

So why release a physical version then, or just delay the game until they can put those features on disc? Some don't have reliable internet connection and would essentially be paying full price for getting a game Sean does not think is good enough to play?

At some point you have to start pressing discs.

 

[diaspora]

That's probably more Sony's fault. Game got delayed to much and wanted to release it already.

Game file is really small (6 GB and most of it is music) so patches should be smaller than usual anyways.

Sony: continuing to ruin everything.

 

[exmachina64]

I have to say it's kind of a sad state of affairs when before a game is even released we are looking forward to patch 1.03.

Version numbering is completely arbitrary, why does this bother you?

 

[somecrazymember]

Am I the only one who's hyped for dead moons? I want to re create the Apollo landing

Better be low gravity

I'm with you. Moons are awesome. Kinda sad that they will ALL be dead if i understand correctly. Some moons could have life thoertically. Oh well

 

[LookAtMeGo]

ohhh maaaaah gaaaawd!

 

[Summer Haze]

I think I'm gonna give it a few patches before I pick this up. Sounds like they're planning to fix/update a lot. Hopefully they patch in some FoV options in the near future too.

 

[madmackem]

Mother of god what a patch, the way some go on they'd be happy to have a lesser game and no patch, I'm sorry but the day we all started buying dlc and buying games with the knowledge they would be patched we all agreed to this. For me I don't care patch away if it improves a game deadlines are tight with marketing etc. For those who don't own the Internet well it's a tough one I wouldn't be buying any of these new consoles if I didn't have some form of Internet connection.

 

[ichtyander]

What? What are you even talking about here

Well, I kinda agree with them there, but early access implies the game is in a much more unfinished state, while it looks like NMS is somewhere in between. These patch notes, to me at least, give me a very similar feel to how Elite: Dangerous has been planned from the start. The release version of E didn't have half the stuff it has now, and many more things are planned for the future.

The difference is, E was a kickstarted game with clear goals and timelines laid out in the pitch etc. while No Man's Sky is published by Sony on PS4 and has been, for the most part, marketed as a full retail game (with possible unspecified updates for the future) and priced as such. Yeah, Sean mentioned a few times that they'd like to freely update the game after release, but that's not really anything official or specific, it's more a comment on what the devs would like to do if possible, it's open to interpretation, not exactly a statement that things will go that way. If NMS was a PC only/first and started as an early access game, nobody would bat an eye, but I don't think Sean and the team would really like it that way since it would release a version of the game that was even more feature incomplete than what we seem to have now and would basically ruin the entire secretive approach.

So I'm not saying that NMS on release is feature incomplete, far from it, but it's likely that it will be a very different game a year from now, and that sounds a bit more like a kickstarted/early access development path that maybe isn't as common on consoles as it is on PC.

In any case I'm even more pumped after reading the patch notes, they are obviously very dedicated to expanding on the initial game and achieving a greater vision, and I can't wait to play the game.

 

[Zombie James]

Am I the only one who's hyped for dead moons? I want to re create the Apollo landing

Better be low gravity

I definitely am. More places like our own moon would be amazing to explore. Who knows what's hiding under the surface?

 

[Guymelef]

So why release a physical version then, or just delay the game until they can put those features on disc? Some don't have reliable internet connection and would essentially be paying full price for getting a game Sean does not think is good enough to play?

So, they should delay disc printing etc... to have the patch on it and when the game hits stores with 1.03 patch include they may have a 1.10 patch... What's your solution? delay the game to the infinite or stop working on patches?

 

[diaspora]

So, they should delay disc printing etc... to have the patch on it and when the game hits stores with 1.03 patch include they may have a 1.10 patch... What's your solution? delay the game to the infinite or stop working on patches?

No disk release.

 

[Katana_Strikes]

Building bases sounds cool. Looking forward to that.

 

[A Serious Man]

I made a huge mistake reading those notes. I have nothing to do for the rest of the day and now all I want to do is play this.

 

[Rosur]

Sounds good changes, looking forward to what else they add in the futures as some of those changes sound quite large.

 

[Guymelef]

No disk release.

Just buy it digital and let the people choose.

 

[diaspora]

Just buy it digital and let the people choose.

Or don't offer a disk release and avoid the fuckery of having to press them at all.

 

[icespide]

Or don't offer a disk release and avoid the fuckery of having to press them at all.

it's not like people get mad when there isn't a physical release for a high profile game or anything

 

[Behlel]

Or don't offer a disk release and avoid the fuckery of having to press them at all.

Does it hurt you if a game is released on disk?
I bet you're american with a fiber connection, try ask to someone that have an ADSL that go at max at 2Mbps if they want a only digital game.

 

[LookAtMeGo]

Or don't offer a disk release and avoid the fuckery of having to press them at all.

What if when I was done playing the game on PS4, I would like to sell or trade my copy of the game? Oh wait!

 

[icespide]

Does it hurt you if a game is released on disk?
I bet you're american with a fiber connection, try ask to someone that have an ADSL that go at max at 2Mbps if they want a only digital game.

he's point is that if the patches are so crucial to the enjoyment of the game, the benefits of a disc are moot ( you still have to practically download the game)

 

[Behlel]

he's point is that if the patches are so crucial to the enjoyment of the game, the benefits of a disc are moot ( you still have to practically download the game)

But you can play the game even without patch so where is the problem?

 

[madmackem]

Or don't offer a disk release and avoid the fuckery of having to press them at all.

And miss out on everything a disc version Offers?, it offers marketing for the game etc there's a reason no big title game has so far forgone a retail release.

 

[valkillmore]

Very nice!

But, they say "own" space freighters... Does that mean you can't pilot them?

What I 'hope' it means is you can pilot them, and they have a docking station you can fly into and out of and land in with a smaller ship. That's what would be a dream for me

 

[OuterLimits]

this is an issue for practically all high profile games nowadays

To an extent that is true(which has upsides and downsides). The poster statement though was essentially that Sean doesn't really want people playing what just comes on disc(or reviews being based just off that) which sucks for those who would be giving the company $60 for a very incomplete game if they didn't have easy access to internet.

Yes many games get later updates and bug fixes, but if the game is essentially being rushed out and "finished" in the updates, I find that a bit shitty.

 

[ymgve]

Or a compromise could be that at first a game releases as digital only, but after the first one or two patches they put out a disc release.

 

[icespide]

But you can play the game even without patch so where is the problem?

it's a significantly worse version of the game though

 

[Aselith]

Reviewers will have a problem with this. IMHO it's great, and they've been very open with this.

But I can see how a reviewer wouldn't like being unable to score the game on day one.

They shouldn't feel pressed to wait on the patch. You review the game that you get. If the developer patches in the game later, they only have themselves to blame for a poor score #shrugemote

 

[Behlel]

it's a significantly worse version of the game though

yet is still playable.

 

[Ricerocket]

Seems like they shipped a bare bones version on disk before the optimization/balancing phase.

Lots of things like pop ins, textures, shadow issues being fixed here that looked terrible to me in that 25m video. Curious how much better it is with the patch.

 

[KingKong]

They shouldn't feel pressed to wait on the patch. You review the game that you get. If the developer patches in the game later, they only have themselves to blame for a poor score #shrugemote

that's fair for games that come out broken but this will be patched on the first day people can play it, so you'd want the review to reflect that

 

[Bsigg12]

Or a compromise could be that at first a game releases as digital only, but after the first one or two patches they put out a disc release.

Too late for that.

 

[OriginalThinking]

This is a huge patch. I'm excited! Increasing the inventory will be a god send and I'm glad they've made it trickier to exist in challenging environments.

 

[S0cc3rpunk]

"Ability to scan star systems other players have discovered on the Galactic Map, increasing the chance of collision."

wait.. did i read this right colllision, like meeting that player on that planet? or is that something else.