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Ex-Subway pitchman Jared Fogle is suing his victim's parents

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TheSpoiler

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The victim, known in court papers as Jane Doe, sued Fogle earlier this year for $150,000 in damages related to his crimes.

She was one of several minors who were secretly video-taped undressing and bathing in the home of Russell Taylor, Fogle's business partner at the time.

Fogle pleaded guilty last year to viewing the tapes that were recorded in Taylor's home. He was later convicted and sentenced to nearly 16 years in prison for having sex with minors and receiving and distributing child pornography. He's serving out his sentence at a federal penitentiary in Colorado.
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In his latest court filing, however, Fogle claims that Jane Doe was suffering from depression and that she abused alcohol and drugs, as well as engaged in sex with "multiple partners" long before she knew about Fogle's crimes.

In the filing, he claims that her parents, named in the documents as "J.T. and B.T.," failed to properly supervise her.
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He also accused them of inflicting emotional distress because of a messy divorce and "abusive relationship."

"The outrageous and reckless conduct of J.T. and B.T. committed over a period of several years inflicted personal injuries, emotional distress and psychological injury on Jane Doe from which she will continue to suffer," the document states. "B.T. and J.T., by their actions, caused Jane Doe to suffer from emotional distress and depression which then resulted in Jane Doe engaging in destructive behaviors, including, but not limited to alcohol abuse, substance abuse, self-mutilation, and suicidal ideation with regard to which B.T. and J.T. are liable."
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More at the link:
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/ex-subway-pitchman-jared-fogle-211831528.html

Sue me if old.

Edit: mre clarifies why he's suing.

mre said:
People get so emotional over court filings. He's not saying any of this with his filings. Essentially, he's saying that at least some part of her alleged injuries ("severe, traumatic and permanent injuries and mental anguish") are attributable to the parent's actions/inactions, and that in order for the claims to be completely satisfied, the parents must be joined as defendants. However, his angle in this is not to protect her interests, but to protect his own. Assuming his allegations are true, arguendo, then the parents would be in some part responsible for the injuries alleged in the complaint ("severe, traumatic and permanent injuries and mental anguish") and the amount of money he would owe would be reduced.

To use a non-pedophile example, say you're hit by a car driven by John Smith on Monday and you break your arm, and then on Tuesday you're hit by a car driven by Suzie Brown and you break your leg. If you sue only Suzie Brown for your injuries, she can bring John Smith into the litigation as he bears responsibility for part of your injuries as well, and (look at the rule below) not having John Smith be party to the lawsuit means that you would "leave an existing party (Suzie Brown) subject to a substantial risk of incurring double, multiple, or otherwise inconsistent obligations (i.e., paying for the medical bills related to your broken arm) because of [not also suing John Smith]."

Fogle's saying that, assuming a jury finds he caused the plaintiff "severe, traumatic and permanent injuries and mental anguish," he wasn't the only one who did so, and that her parents contributed to part of those injuries and should therefore be held legally and, more importantly, financially responsible for compensating her for those injuries.

This hasn't been a commentary on the merits of this filing, just trying to explain what's going on from a legal perspective.

Here's the relevant federal rule (FRCP 19):
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Corpekata

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I'm struggling to keep up with the leaps in logic. How can Person X sue someone over how they treated Person Y (unless it was someone related to you, which obviously isn't the case here)?
 
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Fat4all

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EightBitNate said:
I'm honestly surprised he's in a healthy state right now. Unless he went to one of those celebrity prisons, I would've thought he'd be beaten to a pulp by now.
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it's possible they just kept him out of general population.

this can happen to prisoners who are in danger of getting assaulted in prison on a regular basis.

(usually pedophiles)
 
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EightBitNate

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Corpekata said:
Yeah, that would be considered cruel and unusual punishment.
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Meatball sub isn't bad if you're in a rush.

Monocle said:
I've had nothing but decent turkey sandwiches at Subway. What am I missing?
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Bread tastes factory made. Steak comes in a brick and is mashed apart by employees wearing gloves. Chicken is just microwaved and pre-packaged. Most vegetables are limp and taste like ass. Sauces are too strong.

Go to Jimmy John's and treat yourself to a good sandwich.
 
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Fat4all

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Corpekata said:
Yeah, that would be considered cruel and unusual punishment.
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Monocle

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EightBitNate said:
Bread tastes factory made. Steak comes in a brick and is mashed apart by employees wearing gloves. Chicken is just microwaved and pre-packaged. Most vegetables are limp and taste like ass. Sauces are too strong.

Go to Jimmy John's and treat yourself to a good sandwich.
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Will do.
 
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Subpar Scrub

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robotrock said:
I think you should fight for Subway a little bit harder here. I refuse to believe EightBitNate ruined the turkey sandwiches for you in one NeoGAF post.
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I like subway too, but there's better sandwich shops around.

I don't understand the comment on the bread though. I always liked the wheat bread.
 
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EightBitNate

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Fat4all said:
all i know is there's this place near me called Firehouse Subs, and they are killer.

jimmy johns is fine. not great, but fine. they're good in a pinch.
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There's a Firehouse near me too but I only recently found out it was a sandwich place and not a wing place lol.
 
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BassForever

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All this talk about places better then subway is only relevant if you live somewhere where those places are options :[

This case will be thrown out instantly
 
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Fat4all

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EightBitNate said:
There's a Firehouse near me too but I only recently found out it was a sandwich place and not a wing place lol.
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Their corned beef brisket is the bomb, but they got lots of great stuff all around.

a little pricey, but they do offer a pickle on the side like any sandwich place should.
 
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Dishwalla

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EightBitNate said:
Meatball sub isn't bad if you're in a rush.



Bread tastes factory made. Steak comes in a brick and is mashed apart by employees wearing gloves. Chicken is just microwaved and pre-packaged. Most vegetables are limp and taste like ass. Sauces are too strong.

Go to Jimmy John's and treat yourself to a good sandwich.
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Jimmy John's isn't any better than Subway, it's really about the same quality.
 
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Monocle

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robotrock said:
I think you should fight for Subway a little bit harder here. I refuse to believe EightBitNate ruined the turkey sandwiches for you in one NeoGAF post.
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To be honest, this isn't the first time someone has suggested I try Jimmy John's, so I might as well give it a shot.

I will still probably eat at Subway from time to time.

AxelFoley said:
Their Buffalo Chicken sub is great.


As for Jared, fuck this guy.
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Might have to check this out. I don't think I've ever had anything directly from their menu. I always make a custom sub.
 
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I wanted to make this thread yesterday, but I noticed that he isn't suing them. They are suing him and he is filing counter motion or whatever it is called saying that he shouldn't have to pay them as much because the family was messed up or something. Pretty standard procedure stuff, but coming from that scumbag it makes it special.
 
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Smellycat said:
I wanted to make this thread yesterday, but I noticed that he isn't suing them. They are suing him and he is filing counter motion or whatever it is called saying that he shouldn't have to pay them as much because the family was messed up or something. Pretty standard procedure stuff, but coming from that scumbag it makes it special.
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Was just about to post this. Basically the goal is to force a settlement rather than play only defense in their lawsuit.

Guy sucks but it's pretty standard fair in these post-conviction civil suits. You really want to try and swat as many of them away as possible. In many ways it's best for both sides, since Fogle obviously wouldn't be able to pay out to all his potential victims if they got their initial demands.
 
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EightBitNate said:
I'm honestly surprised he's in a healthy state right now. Unless he went to one of those celebrity prisons, I would've thought he'd be beaten to a pulp by now.
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He's on a downward spiral. I read somewhere that he's gained a lot of weight and eats a few boxes of honey rolls a day. He also has his ass kicked bad by a 60 year old man

Also, those of you that are downing subway for getting involved with Jared, they started the partnership ~20 years ago. His actions were within the last 10 or so years. Unless Subway knew and were supplying him with victims, they are innocent.
 
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The food snobs on Gaf are the worst.

Mention any kind of food and your almost guaranteed to have someone tell you it's garbage and suggest the "better" alternative. Which is usually some random ass one of place no one's ever heard of.

Every time.

Pizza threads are the best for it.

Oh yeah, fuck jaded Fogle.
 
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Fat4all

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Enter The 36 Chambers said:
The food snobs on Gaf are the worst.

Mention any kind of food and your almost guaranteed to have someone tell you it's garbage and suggest the "better" alternative. Which is usually some random ass one of place no one's ever heard of.
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someone sounds jelly they dont got a Firehouse near them
 
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Enter The 36 Chambers said:
The food snobs on Gaf are the worst.

Mention any kind of food and your almost guaranteed to have someone tell you it's garbage and suggest the "better" alternative. Which is usually some random ass one of place no one's ever heard of.

Every time.

Pizza threads are the best for it.

Oh yeah, fuck jaded Fogle.
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Bruh Jimmy John's is an international chain
 
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Tall4Life

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Even if that is all true and the victim was "damaged" before Fogle, that doesn't give him free reign, or any reign really, to take advantage of her. I hope he rots.
 
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Tobor

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Firehouse and Jimmy Johns are better than Subway, but still average.

Jersey Mike's is the best around.
 
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