adversarial
Member
I'm seeing friends log in who haven't played since level cap was 85. Legion brings the nostalgia. Great expansion so far, hoping it stays strong through Mythic progression.
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Blizzard announces Legion has sold 3.3M copies on Launch Day
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I think the Dream Hunter had a lot to do with it.
JimJamJones
Member
Great expansion so far. Loving it.
My only disappointment so far is with the treasures hidden through the Burning Isles.
In WoD, they were varied and fun to find the different ones. This time around, they're all just the same Glittering Mementos. It's probably a stupid nitpick, but I liked the treasure hunting.
My only disappointment so far is with the treasures hidden through the Burning Isles.
In WoD, they were varied and fun to find the different ones. This time around, they're all just the same Glittering Mementos. It's probably a stupid nitpick, but I liked the treasure hunting.
Of course. That's like asking if a movie's first day gross is only for tickets sold on that day. I would imagine a large majority are the digital pre-sales which Activision would certainly prefer since it saves them a lot of money. I personally bought a physical copy though to get the $10 off at Best Buy.
Milly Osworth
Member
I'm sure this means those millions will be playing in a few months *cough*
I mean... c'mon blizz...yes, there are 3.3m concurrent (or close enough) players who will be supporting you forever
with that being said... legion is easily the best expansion since Cata.. possibly even better than Cata.
Wut, Cata was absolute bollocks, especially after the nerf to the supposedly hard heroic dungeons. Plus, the raiding was pretty poor compared to TBC and Wrath, in fact Cata is when I finally quit raiding after 7 years of hardcore 5 nights a week raiding as it was just so boring.
Anoregon
The flight plan I just filed with the agency list me, my men, Dr. Pavel here. But only one of you!
Players always leave after launch and come back periodically when new patches comes out. WoD was just special in that there was very little to keep people playing from the get go or to entice them to come back in patches. With Legion, they are explicitly trying to mitigate both of those issues so it shouldn't be nearly as bad as WoD
Unless, of course, the content just sucks.
Acerac
Banned
I hate it because of the crappy and sparse content it offered. Still giving legion a chance though after skipping the last 2 and a half expansions.
First week sales are going to be a lot higher than that, definitely. People like me who waited a couple days to see if the buzz was good, latecomers, etc.
Well deserved, it's a good expansion with an absolutely enormous amount of content. If they can keep to a somewhat decent conten release schedule it'll be one for the books certainly.
Well deserved, it's a good expansion with an absolutely enormous amount of content. If they can keep to a somewhat decent conten release schedule it'll be one for the books certainly.
there was a cool conversation going on the other day... that WoW , as of this point, is basically WoW 2. "age of the game" is meaningless.
original system requirements
800Mhz CPU
32MB video card
256MB RAM
legion requirements
dual core CPU from the last 4 years
integrated graphics from the last 2 years
2GB RAM
beyond that, SO MANY of the game mechanics have changed, or do change from expansion to expansion. and you don't even have to go through any of the "WoW 1" content anymore! Every copy of legion comes with a level 100 boost so you can get right into the modern content.
so while the game world and player base are 12 years old.. for all intents and purpose Legion is a modern MMORPG, attached to the side of a 12 year old system. a 12 year old system that you can completely bypass and play the modern "WoW 2.0" of.
Anoregon
The flight plan I just filed with the agency list me, my men, Dr. Pavel here. But only one of you!
7.2 is going to be the real test, I think. We already know 7.1 is going to have new quest content and the Karazhan "Mega dungeon" (essentially 5-man raid), which already puts it leagues above WoD's first patch. If 7.2 doesn't take forever and includes a new raid that also isn't the final raid of the expansion, things will be looking quite nice overall.
For that matter, none of the "WoW 1" content is even in the game anymore because it got replaced in Cataclysm.
That's up to Blizzard.
Give us another 6.1 type patch and people will quit in drones again
A fair number of instances are graphically unchanged since vanilla
That would be pretty much impossible given the changes to rendering, textures, trees, ground clutter, water, etc affect the entire game. Sure the geography of those areas would be mostly the same, but visually they still look way better than they did during the vanilla era.
Cataclysm really hurt the game.
SmartWaffles
Member
Actually the oldest content in the game is from 2007, not 2004, almost all the vanilla content except some raids have been completely revamped in 2010.
to be fair, this is only half true. many instances received needed updates (Wailing Caverns, Ragefire Chasm, SFK, BRS, Mauradin). The rest were left unchanged because... they really don't need to be changed, as evidenced from the new Timewalking system. About the only egregious dungeon left (based on modern design practices) is BRD.. and I honestly feel that's been left alone just as a monument to vanilla.
I don't believe most vanilla dungeons were revamped. I know for certain the ones I listed above (oops.. forgot Deadmines and Scarlet Monestary).. err... well... shit... I guess as I am looking at this edit and my post.... maybe most vanilla dungeons have been touched by this point.
ZombieSupaStar
Member
I ran thru the stockades and it looked as 2004 as ever lol.
I think they just stuck hogger and some different npcs in there.
The load screen looks like it's on the quake 1 engine lol
I think they just stuck hogger and some different npcs in there.
The load screen looks like it's on the quake 1 engine lol
I've never played WoW, but the print ads made it look like Kung Fu Panda. I'd imagine that put players off.
ZombieSupaStar
Member
Speaking of which is the jump from cataclysm Azeroth to 2006 burning crusade when you hit 60 as jarring as it would seem, or did they overhaul that too?
Nope. That place is in need of a rehaul
Outland and Northrend are still jarring. Art design helps a lot compared to other games that are 9 and 8 years old respectively, but yeah they are still pretty rough. Draenei and BElf areas are also bad.
I disagree on wotlk...I still love questing there.
Considering the last time they did a rehaul, the whole end game suffered for it, i'm not sure I want them to spend time on this.
Although this time, it would only be for 10 lvls of content rather than 60. But still... is it worth spending money & effort on 10 lvls that goes by very quickly? Doubt it.
JimJamJones said:
I completely agree. I found exploring the WoD zones for treasures to be a much more satisfying experience. The rewards were varied and the locations were much more interesting to get to. Just exploring Tanaan for rares and treasures made me look forward to how they would evolve that aspect in Legion. Unfortunately this has felt like a step backwards. Legion mostly has tiny chests hidden in far less interesting locations. And occasionally they'll repeat a hiding spot in the same asset multiple times (wow...another small chest on this balcony). It is a small element but it really has had a negative impact on the satisfaction I get when discovering them. I hope this is something they make an effort to improve upon moving forward.
7.1 sound amazing! But yeah like you said, the true test comes at the end. They can keep content rolling on its own momentum for the opening months but EVERY expansion Blizzard has claimed there won't be a year long lapse of content at the end, and every time there is. Which is fine, I'm not a hardcore player, I'll just unsub and return when more stuff is out.... but I do hope they can avoid that and keep things coming. More than just raids too, because one of the things about Legion I like is how much non-raid content there is and how a variety of endgame pursuits feel worthwhile.
ScatheZombie
Member
Silithus says "Hi guys, you forgot about me! It's ok, the developers did too."
ValkyrUser
Member
I'm surprised they haven't updated the dragon models. They're just a pixelated mess now days.
Sparse? I can almost guarantee you that Cata has more quests than any other expansion they've ever made. Had a standard amount of raid bosses, had a lot of dungeons... What exactly do you want for it to not be sparse?
huh? Storm dragons are new models. Not sure how 'pixels' even have anything to do with the model.
Acerac
Banned
Smaller gaps between major releases, especially at the end of the expansion. It's something Blizzard has apologized for and have said they will work on rectifying this expansion. I'm really hoping they follow through on that, only having one raid "worth" doing for over 6 months gets boring unless it's a truly standout raid.
Credit where credit is due, the rework of the old world was amazing, but leveling is so easy that it's tough to sink my teeth in to it as much as I would with late game dungeons and the like. Granted, this is solely my viewpoint, but from what I've heard it's not an uncommon one.
SRTtoZ
Member
Legion has been amazing. I admit I bought Warlods on launch too but probably put a total of 10 hours into the first month while in Legion I am probably near 30+ hours.
I mean the old dragon mounts are old so yea they haven't updated those but they keep improving on all the new mounts they make and pretty much everything in the game looks great aside from old ass areas. I mean look at the Moose mount, that thing is amazingly detailed and check out the new drake. Wow looks and animates better than games like SWTOR which came out 7+ years after it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECrw_98QV10
I mean the old dragon mounts are old so yea they haven't updated those but they keep improving on all the new mounts they make and pretty much everything in the game looks great aside from old ass areas. I mean look at the Moose mount, that thing is amazingly detailed and check out the new drake. Wow looks and animates better than games like SWTOR which came out 7+ years after it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECrw_98QV10
By all means Cataclysm's revamped 1-60 was great (unless you were unfortunate enough to be a race whose storyline got dropped like a rock). But it's hard for me to call it one of the better expansions considering what its endgame turned out to be. Tons of cut content, lackluster content patches, and ending with endless weeks of one of the game's worst raids.
ScatheZombie
Member
Perception of it coming after Vanilla, BC and Wrath, all of which had more dungeons (20, 16, and 16 respectively) and more raids (7, 8 and 9 respectively) than Cata (13 dungeons, 6 raids).
And the additional perception problem that, even though it had ~1000 more quests than any other expansion (~5000 total), most of its 'new' questing content wasn't at max level whereas all ~4,000 Wrath and ~3000 BC quests were completely new quests on different continent for players 60+. Cata definitely had more quests, but over half of them were from revamping old world content that you didn't necessarily go back and do if you were already sitting at 80.
It was also the first 5 level jump expansion so it has the added perception problem associated with going from 10 levels per expansion to 5 levels per expansion.
It also killed Cairne Bloodhoof off-screen. So fuck that expansion.
Orochinagis
Member
Damm , MoP so low? one of the best expansions
I guess people like Orcs and Fel magic
I guess people like Orcs and Fel magic
ChoklitCow
Member
I'm one of those people, but in reality I just needed a $70 Illidan mask for my witch doctor in D3 last season when I was drunk.
....I wish I was joking.
That being said, I resubbed prior to launch and saw some of the pre-release action and as a Forsaken fanboy it was everything I had ever dreamed of so it was hard not to dive back into a game that used to consume every waking hour of my life.
....I wish I was joking.
That being said, I resubbed prior to launch and saw some of the pre-release action and as a Forsaken fanboy it was everything I had ever dreamed of so it was hard not to dive back into a game that used to consume every waking hour of my life.
ValkyrUser
Member
I was referring to the dragon flights. They still use the the vanilla models. I'd love to see them updated with new textures.huh? Storm dragons are new models. Not sure how 'pixels' even have anything to do with the model.
Basically the core audience is Warhammer or riot.
The gap at the end has existed in every single release bar vanilla, though.
But that's factually incorrect.
Acerac
Banned
I'm glad that Blizzard realizes that this is a problem.
For what it's worth, I wasn't happy with the release schedule of Wrath either. The fact that Ulduar got so little time in the spotlight was criminal.
I'll probably dive back in for Legion. I started playing WoW in beta. Alllllmost skipped MoP but ended up buying it. Quit playing MoP because the daily quest grind just got so fucking boring I was literally falling asleep at the keyboard doing them. Skipped WoD.
Will definitely be buying Legion once I have access to my desktop PC in a few weeks. What attracts me most are the class talent overhauls, artifact system and more endgame opportunity for us dirty casuals (zero time to be hardcore anymore unfortunately).
Will definitely be buying Legion once I have access to my desktop PC in a few weeks. What attracts me most are the class talent overhauls, artifact system and more endgame opportunity for us dirty casuals (zero time to be hardcore anymore unfortunately).
Phoenix944
Member
I want to get back to it but I'm too afraid to play too much like the old days... And that's probably gonna happen since I can't stand being left out by other players cleaning HM raids