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Trump details how a war with Iran under his administration would start.

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So, Iran is an asshole country that dislikes us so they do things like this:

Seven Iranian fast attack boats harassed a U.S. Navy ship in the Middle East over the weekend, the Pentagon said Tuesday.

The incident occurred Sunday in the central Persian Gulf, Navy Capt. Jeff Davis, a Pentagon spokesman, told reporters.

During the encounter, Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps Navy fast attack craft approached the USS Firebolt when it was operating in international waters, Davis said.
Three of the boats "maneuvered close to the ship, shadowing her course from a range of about 500 yards," Davis said.

The boats eventually broke off, but one turned toward the Firebolt and came to a stop directly in front of the ship, he added.

"This caused the Firebolt to have to maneuver to have to avoid collision. They came within about 100 yards of each other during the interaction. The Firebolt attempted multiple radio communications with the Iranians," Davis said.

"This is another example of another unsafe and unprofessional interaction we've had with the [Iranian navy] in the Gulf."

A defense official said there have been 31 such interactions with the Iranian navy so far this year.

"This is clearly a pattern, and it's one we're not happy about, and we'd like to see this sort of behavior stop," Davis said.

http://thehill.com/policy/defense/294605-seven-iranian-fast-attack-boats-harass-us-navy-ship

Basically, they're being annoying shitheads.

Trump says he will blow up these boats.

Donald Trump warned that he would order the Navy to open fire on Iranian boats that provoke American ships, days after a high-seas incident that ended peacefully.

When the GOP presidential nominee laid out his plan to modernize the military during a Friday night rally in Pensacola, Fla., he took an aside to address his posture toward Iran.

"With Iran, when they circle our beautiful destroyers with their little boats and they make gestures at our people that they shouldn't be allowed to make, they will be shot out of the water," Trump said to loud cheers.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box...-would-shoot-at-confrontational-iranian-ships

This insane response to Iran being annoying and dumb would probably escalate into a major diplomatic incident and there's no way Trump could handle a major incident like this (during which the Iranian leaders will condemn and mock Trump to score political points) without escalating this to all-out war. Trump is too easily baited and Trump's advisers (and the general GOP) are desperate for any reason to start a war against Iran and Iran would almost surely give the U.S. some (flimsy) reason for invasion and or bombing after an event like this.

Sorry for the spoilers.
 

GaimeGuy

Volunteer Deputy Campaign Director, Obama for America '16
Is it illegal to piss on a gravestone?

Because I'm not sure I would be able to resist the urge if I ever happened upon Donald Trump's 20 years down the line.
 

Rebel Leader

THE POWER OF BUTTERSCOTCH BOTTOMS
To trump

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This would be a declaration of war
 

commedieu

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Don't worry, Trump will be getting a call from Putin after this and he'll never mention Iran again.

I believe he already got that call.

Trump knows better than any of us that Russia has irans back.

They are all probably in the same Google chat.
 

gdt

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That's literally a child's reaction. Sure the Iranian navy is being shitty and annoying but that's all the power they have. Ignoring it is in everyone's best interest.




I mean, don't we, someday, want to have a healthy relationship with all nations, including Iran?
 

Akuun

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So in other words, Trump is the sort of guy who would pull a gun and shoot at someone who cut him off on the road.
 
Just in case people are worry about US actually invading Iran. Iran's terrant is very different from Iraq. It has a lot of hilly area. American Soldier going in will have worse luck than in Vietnam.

Nobody is invading Iran.
 

Rebel Leader

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That's literally a child's reaction. Sure the Iranian navy is being shitty and annoying but that's all the power they have. Ignoring it is in everyone's best interest.




I mean, don't we, someday, want to have a healthy relationship with all nations, including Iran?
I thought the iran revolutionary gaurd is different than the regular iran navy
 

Rebel Leader

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Just in case people are worry about US actually invading Iran. Iran's terrant is very different from Iraq. It has a lot of hilly area. American Soldier going in will have worse luck than in Vietnam.

Nobody is invading Iran.

You think that would deter him?
 

Balphon

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"With Iran, when they circle our beautiful destroyers with their little boats and they make gestures at our people that they shouldn't be allowed to make, they will be shot out of the water," Trump said to loud cheers.

On the list of utterly inane yet inescapably horrifying bullshit Trump has said, this has to be near the top.
 

Slightly Live

Dirty tag dodger
Any conflict with Iran would result in deaths on both sides.

Potentially all over a few hand gestures?

The world deserves better.
 

Brakke

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Those beautiful destroyers.

I was rolling at that, too. Their "little boats".

I wish I could make a joke about Trump's whole personality being a compensation for his tiny penis, but he already confirmed that's the case during the Republican debates...
 
Keep in mind, Russia does stuff like that all the time with their jets. Get close enough to where US has to send them warnings, then at the last possible second turn around and leave.
 

Balphon

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What does Iran get out of provoking situations like this all the time?

The possibility of an overreaction by the US like the one Trump describes and/or a public demonstration that the nuclear deal does not mean they are kowtowing to the US.

From what I recall the IRGC Navy is one of the more hardline elements of the Iranian Government.
 

Joezie

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Just in case people are worry about US actually invading Iran. Iran's terrant is very different from Iraq. It has a lot of hilly area. American Soldier going in will have worse luck than in Vietnam.

Nobody is invading Iran.

There are lots of reasons one will not invade Iran. Hilly terrain, for a country that has spent the last decade and a half fighting in one of the mountainous countries in the world(Afghanistan) isn't one of them.

THAT being said, Iran isn't a country I want becoming an even greater enemy of the US. The last thing we need right now is another active conflict.
 
That's literally a child's reaction. Sure the Iranian navy is being shitty and annoying but that's all the power they have. Ignoring it is in everyone's best interest.




I mean, don't we, someday, want to have a healthy relationship with all nations, including Iran?

Well, in fairness, the relationship we have with Iran is probably about the healthiest it's ever been. I mean, yeah, shit like this creates an image like it's bad, but look past it a bit and all you're seeing really is petty dick-measuring. I think the actual alliance we have with them is pretty solid for now. Of course, it'll probably never be truly great as long as we support Israel like we do.

Is it illegal to piss on a gravestone?

Because I'm not sure I would be able to resist the urge if I ever happened upon Donald Trump's 20 years down the line.

I'll stand with you even if it does. Maybe we can get a mass pissing on grave party as one last protest to Trump.
 

wildfire

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Trump still manages to surprise me with his comments.

I wonder how Neocons feel about a potential Trump presidency. On one hand he sounds like their wet dream candidate for the Mid East.

On the other hand I think his ties to Russia must weigh very heavily with them.


He must be driving them insane.
 
I listened to Republicans during the Bush administration constantly hawk over Iran (McCain even made a stupid jingle out of it), but they never asked us to develop a plan in case military action needed to actually happen. Then Obama asked for a plan barely a few years into his presidency and then pushed to solve it diplomatically. I prefer a president who weighs his options and makes plans for even undesirable outcomes.
 
it's interesting how these incidents never happen the other way around, with Iranian or Russian or Chinese ships near Florida or New York.. i wonder why.
 

besada

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it's interesting how these incidents never happen the other way around, with Iranian or Russian or Chinese ships near Florida or New York.. i wonder why.
They do. Last year the Chinese sailed into American waters with war ships less than twelve miles from the Alaskan coast. We didn't send boats out to harrass them. A couple years ago, Russian subs were caught off the coast of Georgia. They've also been caught off the coast of Florida and California, as well as fucking around with undersea cables. In none of those cases did we send out boats or subs to get in their faces and taunt them, because no one is interested in getting into a shooting battle.

I imagine your intended point was that if the U.S. didn't have its ships all over the globe, they'd be safe from this sort of confrontation, which is not a bad point. Shame you wrapped it up in the idea that other foreign powers don't violate territorial waters.
 
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