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[Plinko]

CNN going in on the stamina thing.

 

[cruets]

Trump cheated on his wives did he not?

 

[GoldenEye 007]

Trump talks about "stamina" but can't even last 20 minutes. How the hell did his campaign even get him this far?

GOP and Republicans cultivated a culture of hate for decades. The GOP base loved it. So here we are.

 

[benjipwns]

I think the thing everybody is missing is just exactly what this debate will do going forward. First of all, [candidate] won overwhelmingly, it wasn't even close as [candidate] had a complete command of the issues and [candidate] had nothing but gotcha responses. Even with both [candidate] and [moderator] against them, [candidate] continued to dominate each issue and refocus the debates to the important policy questions. You could tell at times that [moderator] was surprised and impressed at how well [candidate] was handling the debates and continuing a withering attack on [candidate] even as [candidate] tried to distract away from [candidate]'s incredible flaws and corruption compared to [candidate]'s long service to the country.

It'll be interesting to see just how much of a boost [candidate] gets from this, as it was so lopsided we haven't had a debate like this where one candidate so clearly won when viewed objectively. Once all the media and politicos distill through the noise their overwhelming consensus that [candidate] won will almost surely push [candidate] into a strong polling advantage. Unless there is a drastic change in the race through outside factors, [candidate] should continue to control the future debates and seal up [candidate]'s victory as [candidate] flounders and falls farther and farther in the hole. Not even [moderator] and [moderator] will be able to save [candidate] from the principled and intellectual assault [candidate] deploys.

This will be remembered as the night [candidate] won the [year] election.

 

[DontBeThatGuy]

Trump will win simply because he is less fake.

Did you see those smiles?

I believe this is what sexism sounds like.

 

[DangerMouse]

Oh my god, I just saw this:

Beat me to it, was about to copy the link for that lol

 

[EatinOlives]

Trump will win simply because he is less fake.

Did you see those smiles?

I saw endless duckface as Clinton spoke.

His mannerisms were just disgusting throughout. His really off-putting gesticulations and constant loud sniffing were just distributing.

Dude was a slobbering mess.

 

[Armaros]

Gotta say, I really didn't like Hillary's fake smiles and calculated humor, especially under attack, but I think that tenor probably got under Trump's skin far more than my own, and that led him to stumble and never recover.

Tell me more about how her demeanor is any different then other politicians.

Go focus more on her smiles especially.

 

[Dreams-Visions]

Should we talk to Sean? Sean Hannity?

We can. We MUST. The truth is out there.

I believe this is what sexism sounds like.

Yep. These women and their fake smiles. They can't keep getting away with it! Because Donald never offered any cynical smiles. Donald is so genuine. Such a good guy.

 

[Steel]

Doesn't that speak more to our flawed tax system than anything else?

Of course a smart businessman is going to exploit our shit tax code.

It certainly doesn't say that he knows how the common man feels or that he'd be willing to change the tax code so that he couldn't take advantage of it.

 

[giga]

 

[Flo_Evans]

Stupid DVR cut off the end but I don't think it matters, trump was trump and Hillary was Hillary. No real game changers tonight IMHO.

 

[fr0st]

CNN going in on the stamina thing.

That girl next to the black guy can fuck off

I just want to punch her in the face for defending trump on everything.

 

[Compsiox]

I believe this is what sexism sounds like.

Oh please. They were obviously fake smiles.

 

[NullPointer]

Tell me more about how her demeanor is any different then other politicians.

Go focus more on her smiles especially.

Oh give me a break.

Hillary's cross to bear is her calculation - that she doesn't come across as genuine a good deal of the time. When she does, she knocks it out of the park imho.

Trump sounds like be believes what he's saying, even when he's talking pure bullshit, but that resonates with people.

 

[Cipherr]

Trump is batshit insane, and his comments about global warming not being a priority made me rage but at least he is making his stupidity transparent.

Hillary is a cold robot spouting an irritating politically correct script in order to win and push the establishment agenda, I'd fear that even more.

Im going to bet that you were pulling for Trump to win, and confident that he would; and now that he got thrashed you ar......

Trump is going to destroy her at the debates and things are going to get pretty interesting. GAF will meltdown

Yeah... That's.... really easy to see through.

 

[Futurevoid]

CNN going in on the stamina thing.

He didn't raise stamina though...

*Van Jones stares confused*

 

[Brawly Likes to Brawl]

Hillary's reversal of that Stamina accusation was so beautiful it should be framed.

 

[Toxi]

What

I'm not being serious.

 

[Netherscourge]

Why is CNN flocking to Trump to ask questions? Did Hillary leave immediately or something?

-Hillary is sane and reserved.

-Trump will drop a line about a 400-pounder doing cyber in their bedroom at a moment's notice.



Which do you think will get higher ratings?

 

[KarmaCow]

Gotta say, I really didn't like Hillary's fake smiles and calculated humor, especially under attack, but I think that tenor probably got under Trump's skin far more than my own, and that led him to stumble and never recover.

Eh she had some great off the cuff moments like just laughing when she was given time to respond after Trump just screamed for two minutes about how he has a great temperament.

 

[Red]

Presumably that was the thing that Trump was going to bring up tonight but he was too nice too.

Presumably? He basically said it outright in a post-debate interview. Ask Sean Hannity.

 

[GarthVaderUK]

The blonde girl in CNN right now is even more punchable than Trump himself. I hate myself for feeling like that but damn wth is that..she's just so ignorant.

She is absolutely awful, been spewing bollocks for months now.

 

[DontBeThatGuy]

Trump cheated on his wives did he not?

You better believe it.

 

[Fat4all]

Aight, Just wanted to check, since it seems that some people are really confused about the image.

Not an American myself btw, I'm from The Netherlands, but man, Trump was so awful (as usual).

I remember Obama using the same tactic, saying the web address out loud instead of just saying "see my website". It gave his site major spikes during the debate.

The fact that Clinton added a "fact checking" feed only fueled more interest I would imagine.

 

[JP_]

Reading reasons why people are voting for trump is like

 

[GravityInsanity]

 

[MHWilliams]

How you going to let Jerry Springer clown you?

EDIT: Beaten by GravityInsanity.

 

[Frustrated_me]

That girl next to the black guy can fuck off

I just want to punch her in the face for defending trump on everything.

... ummm ... lol.

 

[Souldriver]

I feel like Trump's side needs more crude drawings of sexy women.

 

[iMAGINATION]

Did anyone play the drinking game? Respond if you are alive

 

[Armaros]

Oh give me a break.

No, please continue, you can join the line of GOP poiliticans that do that same.

 

[Vire]

I think Hillary bodied Trump and this coming from someone who is a huge Hillary hater.

She needs to cut out that fake smile shit though, it's annoying.

 

[FrenchMovieTheme]

I think the thing everybody is missing is just exactly what this debate will do going forward. First of all, [candidate] won overwhelmingly, it wasn't even close as [candidate] had a complete command of the issues and [candidate] had nothing but gotcha responses. Even with both [candidate] and [moderator] against them, [candidate] continued to dominate each issue and refocus the debates to the important policy questions. You could tell at times that [moderator] was surprised and impressed at how well [candidate] was handling the debates and continuing a withering attack on [candidate] even as [candidate] tried to distract away from [candidate]'s incredible flaws and corruption compared to [candidate]'s long service to the country.

It'll be interesting to see just how much of a boost [candidate] gets from this, as it was so lopsided we haven't had a debate like this where one candidate so clearly won when viewed objectively. Once all the media and politicos distill through the noise their overwhelming consensus that [candidate] won will almost surely push [candidate] into a strong polling advantage. Unless there is a drastic change in the race through outside factors, [candidate] should continue to control the future debates and seal up [candidate]'s victory as [candidate] flounders and falls farther and farther in the hole. Not even [moderator] and [moderator] will be able to save [candidate] from the principled and intellectual assault [candidate] deploys.

This will be remembered as the night [candidate] won the [year] election.

nah

 

[shadow_shogun]

That girl next to the black guy can fuck off

I just want to punch her in the face for defending trump on everything.

I take it you don't watch CNN much.

 

[zma1013]

What was the exact wording about his taxes? I missed that part. I can't believe he gloated about that... no wait, actually I can believe it, he nuts.

 

[Already Torn]

Just some notes I had during the debate about shit Trump was saying

-- Rooted for economy collapse
-- Lied about being a global warming denier
-- Admitted to tax evasion
-- Admitted to not paying employees
-- Confirmed he would attack foreign soldiers for a simple taunt
-- Said racial profiling is okay

No, no! The foreign soldiers were the ones doing the taunting.

 

[sangreal]

Wasn't following the thread. Was it just me or did Trump basically admit that he paid nothing in taxes when they were on the subject?

Dana bash asked him that after the debate and in true Trump fashion his answer was "no, I didn't"

 

[Codeblue]

"Of course I pay federal taxes"

Words of a man that has no intention of letting anyone see his tax returns.

 

[GamerSoul]

hahahah

 

[Zeuanimals]

Trump is a p.o.s. imo, but he does have charisma even though his message is disgusting. Watching Hillary speak is like watching paint dry.

That's not charisma, that's unhinged insanity which is, to Trump's credit, much more fun to watch than watching paint dry.

But seriously, people need to stop saying he's charismatic. Makes me want to do my hair like Donald, be a dick to women and just be generally insane, and I'll watch the ladies flock to me because I'm so charismatic.

 

[Kibbles]

Trump is pretty smart to hog the post-coverage with all these Q&As he's giving, where's Clinton?

 

[VariantX]

Tell me more about how her demeanor is any different then other politicians.

Go focus more on her smiles especially.

Yep because that's Hillary's fault...somehow. that's a good way to push women even further away if he goes there.

 

[Quote]

I think the thing everybody is missing is just exactly what this debate will do going forward. First of all, [candidate] won overwhelmingly, it wasn't even close as [candidate] had a complete command of the issues and [candidate] had nothing but gotcha responses. Even with both [candidate] and [moderator] against them, [candidate] continued to dominate each issue and refocus the debates to the important policy questions. You could tell at times that [moderator] was surprised and impressed at how well [candidate] was handling the debates and continuing a withering attack on [candidate] even as [candidate] tried to distract away from [candidate]'s incredible flaws and corruption compared to [candidate]'s long service to the country.

It'll be interesting to see just how much of a boost [candidate] gets from this, as it was so lopsided we haven't had a debate like this where one candidate so clearly won when viewed objectively. Once all the media and politicos distill through the noise their overwhelming consensus that [candidate] won will almost surely push [candidate] into a strong polling advantage. Unless there is a drastic change in the race through outside factors, [candidate] should continue to control the future debates and seal up [candidate]'s victory as [candidate] flounders and falls farther and farther in the hole. Not even [moderator] and [moderator] will be able to save [candidate] from the principled and intellectual assault [candidate] deploys.

This will be remembered as the night [candidate] won the [year] election.

wrong election

 

[eyeball_kid]

Can you make a list of the topics you believe he won? I think he should have simply stuck to his message that she's been in Washington long enough to show she can't do the job or is otherwise part of the ineffective establishment that will result in more nothing getting done. Which while wouldn't be very objective could at least be a simple point for the undecided to latch onto. He should have gave every topic a critique from that angle and continued to stay away from the details, and most certainly away from taking all the bait she was lobbing out.

Well, to put it more generally, I think Trump won with people who don't care about debates, or policy. He had enough one-liners to successfully paint her as ineffective. That's really all he needs to do. He doesn't need to play Hillary's policy game, he just needs to make her seem like the same old politics that have done nothing for the average middle class American. I know PoliGAF doesn't necessarily understand this perspective, but many people in America don't care about the intricacies of foreign policy or even specific domestic details. They want someone who projects leadership and who appears to be a "fixer", not a politician.

Whether there's enough of these people to put the election in his favor remains to be seen. But I don't think his fumbles tonight were enough to ruin his position with most undecideds and independents. I say this as someone who supported Bernie and plans to vote for Hillary.

 

[Xe4]

The belief that she's anti-vac is a myth.

She has stated numerous times that she is not anti-vac.

Dude, her rhetoric is straight out of the anti-vaxxer playbook. I'm not going to dig up whit, but it's a common thing to see someone say they're for vaccines, then bring up all the ways they're against it.

He let both of them walk over him, and he was being called out by Trump for everything. EVERYTHING. Guy has the facts right there, and let himself get walked over.

Again, I didn't watch it. I'll have to wait till Wednesday to make an analysis. It's hard to moderate a debate like that, doubly so because of how intense it was, triple so cause one candidate is spouting "bias" before the actual debate.

From what I heard, dude could've been more assertive, but did his job when it counted.

 

[Caelus]

She needs to cut out that fake smile shit though, it's annoying.

? I don't understand this criticism, I was giggling at around the same times she was.

 

[Risette]

Doesn't that speak more to our flawed tax system than anything else?

Of course a smart businessman is going to exploit our shit tax code.

Still, you don't go on TV and basically say "hell yeah I'm part of the problem". A smarter candidate in the same situation would've just danced around the issue and minimized it.

 

[Mechanized]

I know, a lot of people are talking. Something's going on.

You know, he doesn't look to be in good health, I'm not a doctor, I can't make that kind of judgment, but if he went to a doctor, I wouldn't be surprised if they said he was dying. And wow. That is not a good look for a presidential nominee.

 

[Senoculum]

I went on Fox News for shits and giggles.

It was a mistake.