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[ec0ec0]

People saying this looks like 3D World style gameplay are blind. Looks very open from these shots, plus the movement options are very similar to Mario 64, which I'm sure was intentionally shown. Looks like a 64 successor with the graphical style of 3D World, which should excite anyone interested in Mario.

where are all the 64-2 comment coming from!?

"the movement options are very similar to Mario 64"

where are you seeing this? we only saw the long jump(which has been in every 3D mario aside from sunshine) and the triple jump. The triple jump being in doesn't make movement options "very similar to Mario 64" at all, that would be the dive (the "b" button in 64), and we have no indication of that being in.

My understanding (you will notice I am using this phrase a lot on purpose) is that this is more explore-y than the recent games but not as much as Mario 64.

Think Mario 64 if the ratio of exploration levels to Bowser levels was reversed.

godlike news if true. That's what 64 should have been in the first place (same moveset, but more plaforming oriented)

 

[Fancyarcher]

I was a little worried it was gonna be a more traditional platforming level Mario game, but it looks like based off some of the images, it could be a return to the expansive Mario games like 64 and Sunshine, certainly it'll probably be a mix between those and Galaxy, which wasn't as expansive as either 64 or Sunshine.

Looks very promising either way.

 

[MagnesD3]

Please dont let this be linear, I need my mario adventure back!

 

[rhino4evr]

People act like Mario 64 was this huge open world. It wasn't. Sunshine had larger open levels than 64 did, and that game wasn't that well received compared.

I think Galaxy gave the perfect balance of open levels with linear goals. The 3D World Series was definitely more linear, but I'd argue the level design was slightly improved because of it.

I don't see why anyone would "hate" either style. Mario is fun to play, no matter what.

 

[Pancakes R Us]

Reminds me of Sunshine for some reason.

 

[The Last One]

Does anybody note the girl "switching" off the joy cons for multiplayer at the end of her section in the trailer?

 

[TI82]

Just hope it's not like 3D World, that game was ass :/

 

[Malus]

People act like Mario 64 was this huge open world. It wasn't. Sunshine had larger open levels than 64 did, and that game wasn't that well received compared.

I think Galaxy gave the perfect balance of open levels with linear goals. The 3D World Series was definitely more linear, but I'd argue the level design was slightly improved because of it.

I don't see why anyone would "hate" either style. Mario is fun to play, no matter what.

I agree. Hope that this game can similarly scratch both itches.

but more importantly some music samples pls Nintendo

 

[dampflokfreund]

Please dont let this be linear, I need my mario adventure back!

It is back. There is a town and unique characters you can talk to. That alone makes it much better than 3D World

 

[Captain Europe]

I disagree. Galaxy is more Mario 64 than Sunshine. It's controls, even if you were to remove Fludd, aren't as close to 64. In addition, its structure and how the world works is identical to 64.

Spoiler

Sunshine>64

Edit: When I say world, i mean hub.

Edit2: meant "aren't" instead of are. Oops.

Galaxy 1 is more similar to 64, 2 more similar to 3D World.

Sure, there are some 64-like levels in Galaxy, but most of the levels are A to B obstacle courses, just like 3D Land/World. And I'm not counting hubs when comparing these games, hubs/maps are just means to an end.

Mario Sunshine was Mario 64 with a bad camera, glitchy levels, questionable stage design (frustrating at points) and an undesired gimmick strapped to your back. Consider it a sequel, sure, but also consider that there is a lot working against that game to make people want another shot at a SM64 sequel, but you know, good.

It's like telling Sonic Adventure fans tossup up because they got Sonic 06 already. People want another shot at that gameplay style, but with actual polish.

I can get behind that, I remember Sunshine having some frustrating parts. Tho I wouldn't comare it to the mess that is Sonic 06 XD, but I get what you mean.

 

[Mr Waluigi]

where are all the 64-2 comment coming from!?

"the movement options are very similar to Mario 64"

where are you seeing this? we only saw the long jump(which has been in every 3D mario aside from sunshine) and the triple jump. The triple jump being in doesn't make movement options "very similar to Mario 64" at all, that would be the dive (the "b" button in 64), and we have no indication of that being in.



godlike news if true. That's what 64 should have been in the first place.

The Triple Jump wasn't in 3D Land and 3D World. The camera and free movement (as opposed to 3D Land and World's locked directions), as well as the more open environment we've seen, and the Heart item, strongly imply something in the line of 64/Sunshine/Galaxy.

 

[Elfforkusu]

Fingers crossed that there's no run button. Triple jump and 64/Galaxy style camera give me hope.


Game will be excellent regardless (3D world was), but the "true" 3D Marios are on a whole nother level.

 

[LegendofLex]

My understanding (you will notice I am using this phrase a lot on purpose) is that this is more explore-y than the recent games but not as much as Mario 64.

Think Mario 64 if the ratio of exploration levels to Bowser levels was reversed.

This is the ideal scenario, really.

Vast majority of missions in Mario 64 didn't benefit considerably from the open structure.

 

[MagnesD3]

People act like Mario 64 was this huge open world. It wasn't. Sunshine had larger open levels than 64 did, and that game wasn't that well received compared.

I think Galaxy gave the perfect balance of open levels with linear goals. The 3D World Series was definitely more linear, but I'd argue the level design was slightly improved because of it.

I don't see why anyone would "hate" either style. Mario is fun to play, no matter what.

Sunshine was great, it just didnt have as many worlds as 64 and wasnt honestly a finished game, theres a reason you get a ton of shines via blue coins. Not to mention the water mechanics were off putting for many. It was great but definitely flawed where Mario 64 was simply great with some camera issues.

 

[Menitta]

Sure, there are some 64-like levels in Galaxy, but most of the levels are A to B obstacle courses, just like 3D Land/World. And I'm not counting hubs when comparing these games, hubs/maps are just means to an end.

That's the only comparison to make though. Everything else is more like Mario 64.

 

[MilesTeg]

Looks good as of now. Looking forward to seeing more. Could be the hub world we see there

 

[skypunch]

That was to be expected after Miyamoto's words earlier this year. They're very concerned about Mario being accessible to everyone so they'll likely never make another fully non linear game like 64 but it's good to know it's at least a step in the right direction.

So they're cool with making a fully non-linear, open world Zelda game, but when it comes to Mario...

Either way, I want to play this now.

 

[MagnesD3]

It is back. There is a town and unique characters you can talk to. That alone makes it much better than 3D World

I hope your wrong but knowing Nintendo and them doing everything to make me hate them it seems Im guessing you will be right.

 

[Lylo]

Fingers crossed that there's no run button. Triple jump and 64/Galaxy style camera give me hope.


Game will be excellent regardless (3D world was), but the "true" 3D Marios are on a whole nother level.

I love 3D World and Land, but i hate the run button, i also hope it's gone.

 

[GustyGardens]

I don't know if this was mentioned, but it's implied that this Mario game has 2 player multiplayer. We can see the woman taking the system out of the dock while Mario is still on the screen, the next shot is her passing out the control to continue playing.

The way the video was edited further corroborates my story. People in the same scene were always seen playing the same game.

 

[ViewtifulJC]

So they're cool with making a fully non-linear, open world Zelda game, but when it comes to Mario...

imagine if they made Zelda games like Zelda games and Mario games like Mario games

what a concept

 

[Adam_Vania]

how come Mario 64 was so linear? clearly he is running on a single path to the goal.

 

[LightningXCE]

I'm assuming people have pointed out the Mario 64 Health-Recharge-Heart floating to the right of the golden rings?

 

[RagnarokX]

The only all-new game shown, and it's a beauty. It has the camera of the first four 3D Mario games too which is a good sign that it's not like 3D Land or World.

The first 4 games don't have the same camera, and in some levels 3D Land has a camera like Galaxy's.

 

[mrmickfran]

Tentatively excited. Hopefully this will be nothing like the abomination that was 3d world.

Just hope it's not like 3D World, that game was ass :/

what the fuck is this thread

 

[Realeza]

Learn what linear means.

Literally a line straight to the goal 😂

 

[Dynamite Shikoku]

what the fuck is this thread

Theyre right

 

[Firemind]

i pray to the gods it's sandbox mario

 

[Spring-Loaded]

Galaxy is way more similar to 3D World than it is to 64/Sunshine.


Also, to the people asking for Mario 64-2, do you hate FLUDD so much that you don't count Sunshine as 64's sequel?

There (seemingly) being locations with a sense of place (Mexico-ish looking town) suggests something closer to Sunshine in regard to levels.

 

[robotrock]

what the fuck is this thread

3D World and 3D Land are two very good games that I enjoyed dearly but are not what I'm looking for when it comes to 3D Mario.

 

[Menitta]

There (seemingly) being locations with a sense of place (Mexico-ish looking town) suggests something closer to Sunshine in regard to levels.

I hope so. Or it's Mario and Samba De Amigo at the Olympic Games.

 

[ec0ec0]

The Triple Jump wasn't in 3D Land and 3D World.

i remember that.

free movement (as opposed to 3D Land and World's locked directions)

i had forgoten about the locked direction thing, that's a big one. I guess that you assume "free movement" because the game doesn't have to support controllers without an analog stick. Even when put sideways (if they are even supported) the "halves" of the controller have an analog stick (unlike the wiimotes).

camera, open environments

we have seen almost nothing of those yet, specially the enviroments.

 

[Astral Dog]

Theyre right

Nope

 

[MilesTeg]

I don't know if this was mentioned, but it's implied that this Mario game has 2 player multiplayer. We can see the woman taking the system out of the dock while Mario is still on the screen, the next shot is her passing out the control to continue playing.

The way the video was edited further corroborates my story. People in the same scene were always seen playing the same game.

SMB4 here we come

 

[OmegaSmash]

Hope the environmental artists/designers/whoever did the background for MK8 tracks are working on this. The world design in those tracks beats the shit out of anything Mario related in the last decade or so.

 

[Astral Dog]

3D World and 3D Land are two very good games that I enjoyed dearly but are not what I'm looking for when it comes to 3D Mario.

Thats different from what they said.

This looks promising so far !

 

[Litri]

Mix of shunsine and 3D world, I'm liking it. As long as it has loads of content and varied gameplay it will be great.

 

[RagnarokX]

lol what goal? is there a goal in any of these shots?

also this is just a second or two of footage. you could just as easily take 2 seconds of footage of Mario running down a hallway from Mario 64 and decide oh that's a linear game too.

The giant pillar of light in the distance is likely the goal, just like how Mario Galaxy made the goal a bright light visible from a distance:

It is true that you could take footage of a linear level and make that assumption, but at least the assumption would be coming from somewhere. The only footage we have of this game is a level with a clear linear path, so where are the assumptions of Mario 64 style design coming from?

Linear path to goal. Mario 64 confirmed to be linear game.

The Mario 64 Bowser levels are linear. This Super Mario Switch level is linear. We have no indication that there will be levels like the bulk of Mario 64 and Sunshine, just this one linear level. It COULD have those kinds of levels, but we haven't seen anything like them, so the Mario 64 comparisons are coming out of nowhere.

 

[nckillthegrimace]

There's so little footage that people are seeing what they want to see.

 

[mrmickfran]

Theyre right

what the fuck is this thread

3D World and 3D Land are two very good games that I enjoyed dearly but are not what I'm looking for when it comes to 3D Mario.

I understand if you want something different, but calling 3D World trash (I despise 3D Land myself) is ridiculous.

 

[maxcriden]

Hmm. You think that will be the default though for SP? If so the platforming is going to be very different than all previous 3D Marios, right? IIRC the camera has never been quite like that in the other games.

Trying again

 

[gai_shain]

The giant pillar of light in the distance is likely the goal, just like how Mario Galaxy made the goal a bright light visible from a distance:

It is true that you could take footage of a linear level and make that assumption, but at least the assumption would be coming from somewhere. The only footage we have of this game is a level with a clear linear path, so where are the assumptions of Mario 64 style design coming from?



The Mario 64 Bowser levels are linear. This Super Mario Switch level is linear. We have no indication that there will be levels like the bulk of Mario 64 and Sunshine, just this one linear level. It COULD have those kinds of levels, but we haven't seen anything like them, so the Mario 64 comparisons are coming out of nowhere.

Camera and the heart mainly, you can also see another path in the first picture of the OP which is the second part of the gif

Trying again

The way the camera shows mario is the same way it shows mario in 64 if you dont change anything. Or rather when you start a level

https://youtu.be/KN7o97fwCNg?t=126

 

[Bronetta]

The giant pillar of light in the distance is likely the goal, just like how Mario Galaxy made the goal a bright light visible from a distance:

http://i.imgur.com/3OPgLU8.jpg[/IMG[/QUOTE]

Just seeing this one picture of Galaxy is making me want to play the game again. Galaxy 1+2 were such masterpieces.

 

[E-Cat]

Looks like... Mario 64? Holy shit.

 

[mrmickfran]

Nintendo needs to release a trailer of this shit asap in order to dispel the arguments of whether it's 64-Style or 3D World style.

 

[abstract alien]

Those damn rings. I know they have been in mario games before, but they didn't look like that or ever been stacked for collecting so openly, have they?

 

[Belgian Dude]

Hope the environmental artists/designers/whoever did the background for MK8 tracks are working on this. The world design in those tracks beats the shit out of anything Mario related in the last decade or so.

I'd say out of anything Mario EVER. Even the Mario Kart tracks based on other Mario Places (like Tick Tock Clock and Airship Fortress, for example) turn out equal/better than the original in amount of detail and flair to the world. I hope we get more Mario Kart tracks giving a spin at Mario locations (like Rogueport, Puzzle Plank Galaxy and the Circus levels in 3D World) because man that game is fleshing out environments.

Nintendo needs to release a trailer of this shit asap in order to dispel the arguments of whether it's 64-Style or 3D World style.

We're back to the "Nintendo needs to release a trailer of this shit to dispel the arguments of whether it's a hybrid or a proper home console" that revolved around the NX, lmao. The madness never ends.

 

[Aldric]

So they're cool with making a fully non-linear, open world Zelda game, but when it comes to Mario...

Either way, I want to play this now.

Mario is a far more mainstream franchise than Zelda. The worst selling 3D Mario sold more than the majority of Zelda games. l understand it's important that little kids should be able to play a Mario game without too much trouble but there's still a balance to find for those who enjoy the exploratory, expressive gameplay of "real" (tee hee) 3D Mario and l feel like 3D World simply didn't have that contrary to Galaxy for ex. The fact this game apparently tries to strike that balance is great news.

 

[Shang]

just 2D gameplay on a 3D plane

What

Anyway, I hope this game is more like 64 than Galaxy/3D. I love those open yet manageable levels you get to explore. This seems like that, so here's hoping.

 

[robotrock]

I understand if you want something different, but calling 3D World trash (I despise 3D Land myself) is ridiculous.

Agreed