He's a Libertarian, closer to say someone like Dave Rubin or Sargon than Milo.
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Joe Rogan goes full blown MRA; defends Trump, denies gender wage gap
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He's a Libertarian, closer to say someone like Dave Rubin or Sargon than Milo.
I hope I didn't imply that Bill Burr supports Trump (he's vocal about not voting for him) or that he supports MRA or hates "SJWs", I doubt he has any idea what SJW stands for. He's just very funny.
I don't think we disagree that there is clearly a bias, and the secrecy of earnings is why its so difficult to measure. If we're talking about how to fix that bias, we should be more open with discussing earnings with co-workers.
Burr's problem is that he becomes a fucking tool when he's around idiots like Rogan and doesn't stand his ground on what he actually believes, or just says crazy shit like Hillary is the devil just to get a reaction.
Like, Rogan is exactly the type of moron Burr makes fun of in a lot of his bits.
When I watched that episode of Newsradio as a kid where Matthew is obsessed with Dilbert comics and Scott Adams makes a cameo I never would have thought that within 20 years 3 of the people in that episode would reveal themselves to be complete tools.
(Andy Dick has been an ass for years)
(Andy Dick has been an ass for years)
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Yeah I just watched it last night and thought it was great. What happened?
I guess you can say you are telling it like it is.
I know a few amateur comedians and they parrot the same talking points.They feel that their way of thinking is becoming marginalized. Almost all agree that anything can be funny and whenever. And any offensed taken should be waved away because "it was only a joke". Don't get even mention SJWs because ironically that word or anything "pc cultured" triggers them.
Angelus Errare
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That's what I've noticed about him. Like Bill is pretty progressive and all but when he gets around Rogan and those types, he tends to coddle them and do that "both sides have valid arguments" nonsense. The only time I've heard him stand his ground was against Anthony whatever from Anthony and Opie.
Lmao so many ignorant views on here about Rogan.. It's like every time Joe Rogan or reddit get mentioned ppl come out with their pick axes "I told you it was a piece of shit!!"
But ya Rogan does come off as mra sometimes and so does Bill burr
And if you think burr is just acting a tool around Rogan you obviously don't listen to his podcast..
But ya Rogan does come off as mra sometimes and so does Bill burr
And if you think burr is just acting a tool around Rogan you obviously don't listen to his podcast..
Its a lot off "if you are not with is 100% then you are against us!" mentality, Rogan is continually evolving and changing his views based on his experiences and guests.
Yes, evolving to the right.
If you can point me to anything half as bad as the craziest shit Rogan has said, I'd like to hear it. I listen to Burr's podcast a lot and the worst I've heard from him is Hillary Clinton bashing.
Comedians have a problem with what they view as the censorship of free speech. See Chris Rock's interview about why he doesn't do college campuses (and many other comedians don't anymore either). They're there to do their comedy, and real life liberal hecklers who object to many comedians' comedy exist. An encounter with one is very polarizing.
capitalCORN
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More like chasing easy money.
Yes, such ignorant views, yet you have no defense for him or the things he said.
Come on, man. Be a better person. "Just words"? This is the same defense Trump supporters give to their man. Oh, don't have a defense? Guess you're fucked then.
If you look at his views, Rogan is definitely a leftist, very extreme at that... He just hates censorship and social justice warriors as a comedian.
Man Hannibal came off so bad there.. Very cringe
He was drunk and Harris was basically lecturing him on BLM, sounding his impossibly robotic self and being oblivious to it.
Can I see some receipts? I've seen his views and I wouldn't call a single one of them "leftist" besides pot and his flirtation with maybe being onboard with Bernie Sanders. I pointed out all of his conservative views earlier in the thread, of which there are a shitload especially if you look at the company he keeps.
gutterboy44
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Joe Rogan daylights as a cerebral skeptic but is nothing more than a thoroughbred mouth breathing imbecile desperately trying to sound smart.
excelsiorlef
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That was always pretty obvious yeah.
capitalCORN
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I don't know what part of his act is considered funny. He seems to be a try hard effort to emulate Stern, but Stern somehow has much more charm to him. That's true fuckery there.
He's also boys with Sam Harris and the two seem to agree for the most part- he also isn't afraid to punch hard, see his podcast with Milo where he absolutely rips into him regarding religion.
excelsiorlef
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Sargon is like Youtube Milo soooo
HP_Wuvcraft
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Of course he doesn't think it's okay.
Just okay enough to joke about as if it were.
Now I understand the concern of the censorship, but when you start repeating certain ideology verbatim and give some of these statements validity that does become problematic. Although you can't police thoughts nor do I agree with that notion, I feel that you can call anybody out on things; be it comedian or whoever. You say dumbshit, don't complain about being taken to task for the dumbshit or by dumbshits.
And also, yes I agree. Don't come to a comedy club to not laugh and heckling is the worst.
Having on different guests doesn't automatically make him a liberal. Not a single person has yet backed up this idea that he's secretly a liberal, while others including me have backed up the idea that he's actually a right-wing or center-right fuckhead who has some liberal friends and ideas. But sure, thread backfire.
He's a libertarian who is against the modern PC culture and what he thinks of as social justice warriors, trying to paint him as an alt-right devil is plain intellectually dishonest. He dislikes both candidates in the context of the election by the way, he supporter some of Bernie's ideas (free college) though. Having Milo on your show doesn't make you alt-right, Rogan has also has had Neil deGrasse Tyson, Cenk Uyger and Sam Harris... and if you watched that podcast with Milo, you would also know that he rips into him and doesn't pull any punches.
Heck, I don't even like Rogan that much and he is off the rocks when it comes to conspiracies, but lets not be seduced by personal feelings here, lets stick to reality.
DasPenguin
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Yeah, stand up most definitely isn't for you. When Lewis Black is making jokes about gay banditos who threaten the American way of life, do you also take that one seriously? There's absolutely nothing wrong with Burr's act or that joke. And it has no business being in this conversation.
GalacticToast
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...you know it's a stand up comedy bit, right?
celljean89
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I listen to Joe Rogan podcast often. I don't agree with him with everything. But he have some great guests on sometimes. And I think it's interesting to listen to someone else opinion that's outside my own political views.I don't think he's alt-right, but more of libertarian with few liberal views.
SolidChamp
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You mean Joe Rogan is a complete and total douche bag meatheaded piece of shit?
I am shocked. I never thought in a million years...I just...I'm totally...
No, not shocked at all.
I am shocked. I never thought in a million years...I just...I'm totally...
No, not shocked at all.
I love the Joe Rogan Experience and listen to almost every episode. With that said, I have learned to skip the episodes containing certain guests, like Milo or Peter Schiff. I also skip forward anytime politics are brought up. Rogan tends to be ignorant as fuck when it comes to that topic. He shared the new O'Keefe video on twitter, for example...
He definitely has an irrational hatred of Hillary. To the point where it overshadows anything else. He doesn't like Trump either but you'd never know it by the way he focuses on Hillary. I could see why certain people mistake him for an MRA.
He definitely has an irrational hatred of Hillary. To the point where it overshadows anything else. He doesn't like Trump either but you'd never know it by the way he focuses on Hillary. I could see why certain people mistake him for an MRA.
Morrigan Stark
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Someone that shares Breitbart news to 2 million Twitter followers is probably super liberal.
I mean, coming to the defense of Milo Yiannopoulos and proclaiming to the world that he was unjustly banned from Twitter for simply writing a bad review of Ghostbusters is one of the most progressive things I've witnessed in 2016.
The liberal hero we don't deserve.
All I need to know about this moron. Complete scumbag.
EmpressInYellow
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And of course, "modern PC culture" and "social justice warriors" means "anyone who calls him out on the hateful, ignorant bullshit he spews", like stuff he's said about trans people.
He's a bog-standard intellectually incurious privileged douchebag with a megaphone. Unfortunately, that means he's likely to end up parroting at least SOME MRA/alt-right talking points.
unpopularblargh
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Pretty much this. The only worthwhile thing he did was kill Carlos Mencia's career. Also the few seasons of Newsradio that weren't trash.
Not necessarily. I agree "social justice warrior" is a term that may have once had some meaning, but these days is just a word to describe everyone to the left of Paul Ryan, I have been called it a few times myself for expressing (bregrudging) support of Hillary or aligning myself with leftist views like feminism....but after the episode with a psychology professor named Jordan Peterson, I have been exposed to people who accurately fit that description, so I can see, if ever so slightly where he (Rogan) is coming from.
BKatastrophe
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I've only listened to one or two episodes of Joe Rogan's podcast. One had Kevin Smith and one other dude, where they were all high and talked about anal fissures and real life muggings, which were interesting (surprisingly enough). Joe mentioned that pretty much anyone who thinks they'd know what to do in a mugging is full of it and that they'd be too scared to know (based on the one other dude telling a story where he was mugged).
The other episode was one where War Machine was the guest, which I only listened to in order to find out more about the guy after the whole Christy Mack incident. Boy was that interesting.
That's about it. The rest have just been random clips talking about MMA, which despite not having any investment in MMA, I find him talking about it with other guests to be pretty interesting in and of itself.
None of this comes as a surprise.
The other episode was one where War Machine was the guest, which I only listened to in order to find out more about the guy after the whole Christy Mack incident. Boy was that interesting.
That's about it. The rest have just been random clips talking about MMA, which despite not having any investment in MMA, I find him talking about it with other guests to be pretty interesting in and of itself.
None of this comes as a surprise.
eddievanclaylen
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I wouldve figured these guys for Democrats lol
Man Hannibal came off so bad there.. Very cringe
It was easy to see where he was coming from though. The whole thing was just a poor pairing of guests, expectations, and alcohol. I typically like Sam Harris (aside from a few areas I can't see eye to eye), but I can never fucking understand why he doesn't understand what he says comes off the wrong way. It's like he has zero social awareness outside of his circle of academia.
depths20XX
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I don't agree with everything Joe Rogan says but I would like to hear why not agreeing with the pay gap makes you an MRA. What are the facts that prove the pay gap? I really would like to know.
Rimon-hanit
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To me it just seem like he doesn't know what the term 'gender gap' refers to, and as this thread shows this is a common mistake.
dragonelite
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It took the Neil degrasse Tyson podcast to Talk him out of moon landing, and 9/11 conspiracy.
Joe is the kind of person that wants conspiracies to be true, I'm/was also that kind of person when I was like 16~21. There's a reason a like shows like the x-files.
DerpButter
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Well I guess that's that, this will stand as the only good thing Joe Rogan was involved in:
entremet
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Yeah. Seems like a harmless dude with some dumb opinions, ergo most people.
His podcast was never about just having people he agrees with. It's a education for him, hence the experience moniker.
I quit it because it was just too much volume wise. He did have interesting folks. I loved when he had scientists on. And he pioneered the long form interview format on podcasts. It's an amazing format.
Sometimes I see discussions about things in OT that I have some experience or interest in myself and click them, and I just get disappointed in how reductive many posters are. Sigh. Funny, the thread's links aren't even to Joe's own podcast. You may or may not like Joe, but what he's produced in almost 900 episodes is far from worthless. I'm not even defending him, I'm just sad to see confirmation bias drive-bys posts saying everything Joe Rogan has done is garbage and dismissing him as is common in our internet age. It's just not the case, and polarized language like this doesn't help anyone.
In the context of political matters (and this is a political thread), "they're so great we made memes for them," and "they're garbage and a waste of air" is the new version of "you're with us or against us" and it's shit. Stop it.
In the context of political matters (and this is a political thread), "they're so great we made memes for them," and "they're garbage and a waste of air" is the new version of "you're with us or against us" and it's shit. Stop it.
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