they basically run an intelligence agency in los angeles. there was a new yorker article this year that talked about how they have sources at most of the major hospitals, airlines, hotels, limo services etc who know tmz will pay well and reliably for scoops.
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TMZ: Carrie Fisher suffers cardiac arrest on plane (Up: in ICU, condition unknown)
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they basically run an intelligence agency in los angeles. there was a new yorker article this year that talked about how they have sources at most of the major hospitals, airlines, hotels, limo services etc who know tmz will pay well and reliably for scoops.
SmackAttack
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Or she could pull through just fine. Let's hope for the best.
Already Torn
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There was professional CPR from the moment she stopped breathing
She came to Dallas Comic Con last year but I didn't get a chance to see her.
I thought "that's okay, I'll see her next time around".
I thought I had more time...
I mean they are providing information that a lot of people digest. I do agree they go too far. I think there should be some sort of privacy in these situations, but they aren't doing anything illegal, and they are hardly the only ones to do this.
Keep in mind CPR circulates O2 in the blood while a patient is down and preserves tissue. Thankfully there were nurses on the plane to attend to her.
moltonasty
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OMG terrible news. Hope she pulls through this somehow.
You mean one guy with experience, right?
Dude. It's 15 minutes without proper oxygen supply to the brain. I don't like being pessimistic but there's no way someone can pull through "just fine" from this.
InfiniteBento
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Oh my fucking god
Morrigan Stark
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?? They're talking about hiking up mountains and stuff. Did you really think that altitude affects the thinness of the air inside the plane?
FaintDeftone
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My dad suffered a stroke and stopped breathing for over 20min and still survived. He suffered from short term memory loss and confusion afterwards, but he lived for two years after. Hopefully she'll survive this with little damage.
Don't make assumptions on what little relevant information is currently available.
Also changing the thread title, as 'heart attack' doesn't actually describe what transpired.
While true, was it one person giving CPR for 15 minutes? Cause if it was, then I doubt it was particularly good CPR the entire time. It is EXHAUSTING to give CPR for too long. That's why in hospitals they usually have 2-3 very strong people rotating every couple minutes.
Already Torn
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Never had your ears pop on a plane? Never wondered what it was??? They're talking about hiking up mountains and stuff. Did you really think that altitude affects the thinness of the air inside the plane?
I've seen people go through worse, be coded longer, and come out just fine. I've helped resuscitate people after only a few minutes who have suffered permanent debility. The causes and outcomes are as numerous as grains of sand on a beach.
Don't make assumptions. Just wait for an update.
OpinionatedCyborg
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Apparently, there were a couple nurses on board too. And you'd think there would be a few people with First Aid training on board as well. So hopefully they were giving good chest compressions the entire time.
Bobby Roberts
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LA Times said nurses were tending to her while still on the plane.
V
Vilix
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I wish we knew more. I'm upset no news source is covering this. It's all about Trump right now. Pfft.
Unless the information we do have is flat out wrong, it's not an assumption. This is almost a certainty that she's going to be brain damaged at best
Not saying she couldn't be ok cause who knows, but...you know that's not good.Right. I don't usually hold out hope for this kind of stuff, maybe I should just hold reservations until more updates.
?? They're talking about hiking up mountains and stuff. Did you really think that altitude affects the thinness of the air inside the plane?
Air inside a plane at cruising altitude is about the same as air in Denver. Pretty thin compared to what most of us are used to.
Ah, well that's at least somewhat reassuring. The few times I was involved in a code in med school I was usually on chest compression duty and damn it is ROUGH, lol.
EDIT: To give people an idea, I've had people say "If you're not legitimately trying to palate the person's spine through their chest, then your compressions aren't good enough." It is a very tough job. Broken ribs, punctured lungs, etc are not uncommon. I hope she pulls through ok
Yeah it can be pretty damn tiring, I imagine the nurses could have grabbed a few people to help coordinate and stand in if they got tired.
Skyward Sheep
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My uncle passed away from similar circumstances around this time two years ago. Heart attack and died after a short time in critical condition. Really hoping that Carrie will pull through, but from my experience it doesn't look good :/
FallingEdge
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?? They're talking about hiking up mountains and stuff. Did you really think that altitude affects the thinness of the air inside the plane?
The air in a plane is around 11-12 psi. Approximately the same level as the air in Denver. Air is definitely thinner.
Morrigan Stark
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Well yeah, there's only so much cabin pressurization can do, but there's no way it's the same air pressure as outside at that same altitude, that's the whole point of cabin pressurization.
I see, didn't know it was that thin, I never noticed. I only notice how goddamn dry it is (or at least, my poor nose definitely notices
lol).Salty Rice
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I hope for the best. Please be fine.
Soapbox Killer
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Hope...
It's not the best news, but being a pathologist, I can say I've seen people go through some pretty crazy shit and end up being ok. All hope is not lost, we just have to wait and see.
Bitch Pudding
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Joe Shlabotnik
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It's not being covered because it's a very fluid and private situation. Beyond "Carrie Fisher had a very serious heart attack", the next reliable news as far as the public is concerned is she's either OK or she isn't. We're not entitled to live updates.
Sir Abacus
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And defibrillators. United has had them standard on flights for nearly two decades.
Polygonal_Sprite
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Awful news , hoping for the best.
, hoping for the best.
facetheslayer92
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Oh.my.GOD
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Sending good vibes her way.
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