MS is at fault partly because there have been proof that their structure and demands don't always work well with third party developers (Lost Odyssey, TFLO etc.).
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Scalebound cancelled [Platinum Games and Kamiya have commented]
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MS is at fault partly because there have been proof that their structure and demands don't always work well with third party developers (Lost Odyssey, TFLO etc.).
Cloud Strife
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Oh shiiiiiit
GuitarAtomik
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Fable Legends was fun tho.
I'm all for laughing at MS spin, but what else could they say? "Yo, our lineup is mediocre as fuck. Have you considered a PS4?" They have to cast their brand in a good light. It's their literal jobs. Lot of emotions here for a game cancellation.
Crimson_Gold
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I agree. It is about live and creating some sort of revenue for the W10 store. There really much else to think after you look at the trend of the division over the past few years.
I really think if NieR is good it'll surprise people. The first one has great word of mouth on its side and with Platinum at the helm I think it'll be a hard game to miss. I'm optimistic about it.
kruis
Exposing the sinister cartel of retailers who allow companies to pay for advertising space.
Fable Legends was playable in a closed multiplayer beta for almost 18 months. And despite that the game was shut down by MS.
Doctor_Thomas
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Sounds like it's Platinum rather than Microsoft's fault.
Platinum, shockingly, aren't the saviours of gaming some people seem to think they are and they do get it wrong.
Platinum, shockingly, aren't the saviours of gaming some people seem to think they are and they do get it wrong.
AlanzTalon
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I mean, maybe Scalebound just wasn't good. They gave them a good fund, great promotion, and 1st party resources. if the game was looking awesome, then why would they cut it.
The concept or the execution. one of them failed behind the scenes, it was MS's money to lose, and if MS releases a marquee title to "meh" scores or if the game releases buggy/shitty/bad and then GAF is all up in arms about that.
Kill it now, it wasn't going to be a good game.
The concept or the execution. one of them failed behind the scenes, it was MS's money to lose, and if MS releases a marquee title to "meh" scores or if the game releases buggy/shitty/bad and then GAF is all up in arms about that.
Kill it now, it wasn't going to be a good game.
Blackleg-sanji1
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Saying it since day one.
Bitch Pudding
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MatrixMan.EXE
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It's going to be a rude awakening to people claiming "they must be saving stuff for scorpio" when what you say is exactly what ends up happening.
Peroroncino
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Man... Kamiya must be really taking this hard, from the interviews you really could tell it was his passion project, he said multiple times that he always wanted to make a game about a dragon fighting alongside his human buddy.
Time to get REQ'd.
EASTC0AST_GH05T
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I hope you are wrong but if you are right that would make Microsoft the Devil.
Iced Arcade
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Had no interest in the games but sucks for platinum fans
Bear Force One
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More and more I see this as Microsoft making it easy for themselves to pull out of gaming and just become a platform/storefront like Valve.
In which case it will need to be next gen and not some life-extension; if their not going first party they need third parties locked in. I just don't see that really happening.
Throughout the PS3 Sony clearly cultivated an audience - especially with the likes of Uncharted - who continue to be loyal, along with this they brought in a wider market with PS4. Who they continue to cultivate.
MS are releasing the same games they were releasing in the first few years of 360. No one really talks about this and some of the games are still really good but they haven't expanded any of their IP and they haven't launched anything new.
You need first parties to compete when frankly people seem happy with the PS4s they bought.
It's more likely over budget and under developed.
I never got the sense the studio was going the way of Bizarre Creations. (where cavalier attitudes made development difficult)
Look how long since it was announced... the question people should be asking is how much of a game even exists outside of the slices?
dead souls
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You couldn't be more wrong if you tried. That's exactly what a company should do in a statement about a cancellation of a game.
Some of the replies in this thread are hilarious. And let's be honest this game wasn't incredibly anticipated by any notable number of people. It would have been the bomba to end all bombas had it actually released.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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That bitch, go back to making pudding!111!2254
Art Vandilay
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What the fuck is this nonsense? Yeah, it sucks Scalebound got cancelled but Xbox is in a much better place with Phil. BC and Scorpio are both huge. Hopefully some new IPs will be introduced this E3. I'm sure he's well aware of this issue.
It looked rough at its E3 showings but I was excited to play it. I hope this doesn't damage them to bad in terms of income for 2017. They currently only have 1 game on the table to be released now. Bayo 1 and 2 + Vanquish are some stellar games so I can't wait to see what they do next, just a bit of a low blow in regards to Scalebound.
It will probably get cancelled too. Xbox has long lost its audience that would be interested in a JRPG that doesn't have "Final Fantasy" in its name.
But is it a good idea for them? I mean will people really choose a Scorpio when the games are also on PC or get a PS4/ Switch with exclusive games?
GoldCrusader
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And with this Microsoft just lost the last of the attention I gave them.
ViewtifulJC
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Good tbh
It looked fuckin terrible
Also hold sat eatchrildren
It looked fuckin terrible
Also hold sat eatchrildren
YuriLowell
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Microsoft's entire business strategy is about service fees.
Unreal Champ
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Phil Spencer is really killing the system. There has been more cancellation and studio shutdown since he took over compared to when Mattrick was there. Maybe Mattrick wasn't the bad guy after all.
Its been said before but will repeat. No one else can pick it up because MS owns the IP.
Its been said before but will repeat. No one else can pick it up because MS owns the IP.
First off, I don't think its a very big blow. I don't remember seeing a lot of great response from fans when they showed off the gameplay way back when. This title had the markings of a game that didn't seem like it would be very successful in today's market. Granted, I'm just basing that opinion off of old gameplay footage but to be fair many people gauge purchases by that same measure.
I think Phil Spencer is doing a great job steering the ship. Fans WANTED Gears of War 4. I think the timing of the release worked against it as well as a hard push for esports which never fucking works when you try to force that stuff. Aside from that, I think Gears 4 is doing pretty well and the issues the game has had post-launch (microtransactions and RNG pissing off the fans) are things they can fix.
Fans will still want Halo 6 and Gears 5. I know I do. Granted they are in a very competitive genre and there are a lot of other games for fans to stray to, but there are people that want those games and it is on Microsoft to manage their expectations for success and adjust the development budget accordingly.
Having first party content is important, however the Xbox One is doing as well as it is in the US right now because it plays most of the games that the PS4 does and they priced it very aggressively this past season between all the bundles and deals they had going on. A good chunk of the consumer who buys videogames in this country will look at the price and say "Hey this one is $50 cheaper and it'll play Overwatch just like the PS4, plus it comes with these 2-5 games" and that will be all it takes to keep Xbox in the running. I'm with you in that I'd like to see them surprise us with some great 1st party titles this year, but I think maybe they are looking at their options at the moment and 2017 might be a slim year for exclusives, and that's okay as long as they get it sorted by 2018.
Can't agree or disagree but why do you think this?
OrbitalBeard
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This is precisely what I'm expecting from the future of Xbox.
BleedOrange
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Wow, thats a massive disappointment for me... I was loving the look of the game and was truly looking forward to it.
This will definitely influence my decision for Scorpio...
This will definitely influence my decision for Scorpio...
I was planning on waiting a bit, but now I just pre-ordered Nier to throw Platinum a bone 
Terrible news. Platinum has delivered dozens of games seemigly on time and on budget, so this is very surprising. I wonder if it is not more of a Phantom Dust situation, where the scale and scope of the project requested was increased by the publisher without an accompanying budget and time increase.
The 4-player co-op mode immediately comes to mind.
Terrible news. Platinum has delivered dozens of games seemigly on time and on budget, so this is very surprising. I wonder if it is not more of a Phantom Dust situation, where the scale and scope of the project requested was increased by the publisher without an accompanying budget and time increase.
The 4-player co-op mode immediately comes to mind.
broncobuster
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I hope Kamiya gets rest and recovers.
Spyder_Monkey
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I knew this would happen (in fact I even said so here) because if you've been following Microsoft for the past couple of years it seems obvious that they're not good to work with. Remedy split from them, Bungie split from them, Epic split from them, Lionhead and the Phantom Dust guys got shut down due to mismanagement, they massively fucked up Rare, it doesn't shock me that the single player gamer's game focused Platinum and the service and feature focused Microsoft would clash. I wish Platinum and Hedeki Kamyia the best because they're my favorite studio and it feels like Kamiya really wanted this game to be his masterwork. It's a shame this happened but I hope this proves to be a wake up call for Microsoft. Sony and Nintendo have spent 2-3 decades building massive franchises and memorable games whereas Microsoft really only has three; Halo, Gears, and Forza and two of them are similar in terms of aesthetics and the other one's a racing sim. Not the most exciting of line ups. If Microsoft really wants to win gamers back they need to fundamentally shift their game making process to be more diverse and less looking like it was conceived by an executive in a board room. But still fuck Microsoft for doing this.
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