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Nintendo EPD Producer Kosuke Yabuki Interview on Mario Kart 8 DX

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sinxtanx

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Bonk said:
Yeah, I am sure the producer of the game is thinking up bullshit reasons for a matter he brings up himself in an interview...
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It's a more PR-friendly answer than "we needed to make 8D stand out from 8 a bit more"

there is no real hardware reason other than if MK8 stores unique copies of everything concerning the items with the items and no, they don't

MK8 is a lean game from an execution perspective

I mean DD came out on the GameCube and that had some intense items
but still not intense from the execution perspective
 
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Contica

Unconfirmed Member
Already so much content?

Are you kidding me? After a couple of weeks with this baby I knew every track inside out. The lack of more DLC for this game was so disapponting. I stopped playing cause I had done it all one too many times.
 
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Neo_Geo

Banned
JazzmanZ said:
It's also the same game millions did not play because they never bought a Wii U
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That shouldn't be a green light to screw over the fans that actually purchased a Wii U and this game, they should charge full price for a game definitely worthy of the price of entry. On the flip side, this game should be offered to those that have the Digital base game with all DLC linked to their account for a nominal upgrade fee, say $10-$15 for Base Game+All DLC owners and $20-$25 for Base Game only owners at the absolute most.

I am really betting on Nintendo absolutely fucking their most loyal customers and charging the same price no matter what they previously owned, which would be sad and absolutely pathetic of them. I hope I am proven wrong!
 
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TheGreatMightyPoo

Banned
Contica said:
Already so much content?

Are you kidding me? After a couple of weeks with this baby I knew every track inside out. The lack of more DLC for this game was so disapponting. I stopped playing cause I had done it all one too many times.
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Knowing every track inside and out isn't the indicator to stop playing an infinitely replayable racing game.
 
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IntelliHeath

As in "Heathcliff"
Futureman said:
Never owned a Wii U (well I did briefly before Mario Kart 8 was released). Puts me in a sorta weird position. Do I get MK 8 DX when MK 9 is potentially a 2018 title? I'm not a huge MK fan so I can wait.
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There is no way MK9 would be 2018 title but again we might see some kind of revival for other racing game.
 
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WhiteRabbitEXE

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Waddle Dee said:
That's not really how Nintendo works... They just sorta make DLC for some games and then stop doing so even if the demand is still there.

That said, I'd buy every piece of DLC if they added any to this version. The DLC in the vanilla version was fantastic!
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Yup. Just like always, Nintendo plays by their own rules. Even, and often especially, when it makes no sense. Their DLC support tends to be random and unpredictable. Like Mario Golf: World Tour on 3DS got a season pass and the 3DS Fire Emblem's got ridiculous amounts of DLC, but Mario Kart 7, which outsold all of those combined and tripled, got nothing.
 
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Oregano

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Neo_Geo said:
That shouldn't be a green light to screw over the fans that actually purchased a Wii U and this game, they should charge full price for a game definitely worthy of the price of entry. On the flip side, this game should be offered to those that have the Digital base game with all DLC linked to their account for a nominal upgrade fee, say $10-$15 for Base Game+All DLC owners and $20-$25 for Base Game only owners at the absolute most.

I am really betting on Nintendo absolutely fucking their most loyal customers and charging the same price no matter what they previously owned, which would be sad and absolutely pathetic of them. I hope I am proven wrong!
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No one else has offered discounts for their remasters, it's silly to expect Nintendo to. EDIT: A lot of remasters release for budget price but no one is giving discounts for owners of the original versions.

It's fine to think it's too expensive but I'm not sure where an expectation of a big discount is coming from.
 
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jon bones

hot hot hanuman-on-man action
Mario Kart as Service sounds amazing

gimmie every battle mode track

every classic track

new tracks

gimmie
 
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jonno394

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Other then going the smash kart route, I don't see what they can do with Mario Kart 9 to differentiate it from this. One MK per console is the norm.

If they're gonna do anything different i hope it's a fully fledged single player mode/co op with challenges like sonic and all stars, or an adventure mode like DKR
 
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bigmac996

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It's gotten to a point now I feel where MK8 and Smash Brothers are so refined, like Madden, where any changes they do to put out a new title would likely be so incremental since the core experience is so tight. At this point, rather than MK9 I could see Nintendo just releasing track and character DLC, which would in effect probably be close to what MK9 would be anyway- the same game with new tracks/ characters.
 
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FunkyDealer

Banned
Neo_Geo said:
That shouldn't be a green light to screw over the fans that actually purchased a Wii U and this game, they should charge full price for a game definitely worthy of the price of entry. On the flip side, this game should be offered to those that have the Digital base game with all DLC linked to their account for a nominal upgrade fee, say $10-$15 for Base Game+All DLC owners and $20-$25 for Base Game only owners at the absolute most.

I am really betting on Nintendo absolutely fucking their most loyal customers and charging the same price no matter what they previously owned, which would be sad and absolutely pathetic of them. I hope I am proven wrong!
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They should offer a reduced price for those with just the DLC as well. Because these people will have the game on disc.

But I'm not holding my breath. The price-points you suggest though, seem too low to be realistic. We'd be lucky to get 40% off at most.
 
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Jaded Alyx

Member
Futureman said:
Never owned a Wii U (well I did briefly before Mario Kart 8 was released). Puts me in a sorta weird position. Do I get MK 8 DX when MK 9 is potentially a 2018 title? I'm not a huge MK fan so I can wait.
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They're not going to make a new Mario Kart within a year, and even if they could, they would just release that instead of bothering to port 8.
 
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jon bones

hot hot hanuman-on-man action
bigmac996 said:
It's gotten to a point now I feel where MK8 and Smash Brothers are so refined, like Madden, where any changes they do to put out a new title would likely be so incremental since the core experience is so tight. At this point, rather than MK9 I could see Nintendo just releasing track and character DLC, which would in effect probably be close to what MK9 would be anyway- the same game with new tracks/ characters.
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yessss Smash/MK Services
 
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Bonk

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sinxtanx said:
It's a more PR-friendly answer than "we needed to make 8D stand out from 8 a bit more"

there is no real hardware reason other than if MK8 stores unique copies of everything concerning the items with the items and no, they don't

MK8 is a lean game from an execution perspective

I mean DD came out on the GameCube and that had some intense items
but still not intense from the execution perspective
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Maybe you are right. If you are that still begs the question why they left second items in the WiiU game if not for technical reasons.
 
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Aleh

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I don't know, a Mario Kart 9 wouldn't make much sense to me, if anything it would make me enjoy 8 Deluxe less knowing something newer is gonna come on the same system.
How would they even top this though? I can't see it coming out with the same amount of tracks, let alone even more. Graphics would be very similar probably too, so why not just build on top of what they already have? I'm not a fan of paid DLC either but eh
 
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FlaygletheBagel

Banned
Inferno313 said:
Do you guys think we also get MK 9, later on in the Switch's life? or is this our Switch Mario Kart?
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I wouldn't mind it - I don't know what a 9th installment would bring to the table that MK8 hasn't already done. Everything that is the main draw for a new Mario Kart game (new vehicles and tracks) can just be added in via DLC at this point. They could spice up MK9 with a single-player "adventure mode" campaign a la Crash Team Racing or Diddy Kong Racing, but MK has stayed in essentially the same place mode-wise for decades, so I don't see it happening.

I would prefer it if the MK8 team went on to develop something else after this.
 
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Neo_Geo

Banned
Oregano said:
No one else has offered discounts for their remasters, it's silly to expect Nintendo to. EDIT: A lot of remasters release for budget price but no one is giving discounts for owners of the original versions.

It's fine to think it's too expensive but I'm not sure where an expectation of a big discount is coming from.
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It's not really a remaster though. It's a nearly identical version of the game with a resolution bump and battle mode. You can't argue the fact that it would be pathetic of Nintendo to charge full price or a small discount for the product for previous digital owners. It should be a fairly sizeable discount as a token of loyalty for people that actually got them through the Wii U to this stage...It would also help bolster their online service they are charging for, but Nintendo doesn't usually have the capability to comprehend on such a middle school intelligence level. It's better to fuck your customers dry rather than think forward.
 
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Graphics Horse

Member
jonno394 said:
Other then going the smash kart route, I don't see what they can do with Mario Kart 9 to differentiate it from this. One MK per console is the norm.

If they're gonna do anything different i hope it's a fully fledged single player mode/co op with challenges like sonic and all stars, or an adventure mode like DKR
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Open World Mario Kart Paradise obviously.
But yeah I think a new game would have to reinvent it in some way now that they already have one for Switch.
 
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Inferno313

Banned
FlaygletheBagel said:
I wouldn't mind it - I don't know what a 9th installment would bring to the table that MK8 hasn't already done. Everything that is the main draw for a new Mario Kart game (new vehicles and tracks) can just be added in via DLC at this point. They could spice up MK9 with a single-player "adventure mode" campaign a la Crash Team Racing or Diddy Kong Racing, but MK has stayed in essentially the same place mode-wise for decades, so I don't see it happening.

I would prefer it if the MK8 team went on to develop something else after this.
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I think Arms is their current project, or at least, a portion of the MK8 team is making Arms.
 
Lynd7

Lynd7

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They didn't need to do many new tracks for the Switch version, just an extra Switch cup would have been enough probably.
 
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Oregano

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Neo_Geo said:
It's not really a remaster though. It's a nearly identical version of the game with a resolution bump and battle mode. You can't argue the fact that it would be pathetic of Nintendo to charge full price or a small discount for the product for previous digital owners. It should be a fairly sizeable discount as a token of loyalty for people that actually got them through the Wii U to this stage...It would also help bolster their online service they are charging for, but Nintendo doesn't usually have the capability to comprehend on such a middle school intelligence level. It's better to fuck your customers dry rather than think forward.
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That sure sounds like what the majority of remasters offer...
 
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sinxtanx

Member
Bonk said:
Maybe you are right. If you are that still begs the question why they left second items in the WiiU game if not for technical reasons.
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probably game design reasons
asking players to keep track of two items at once is a big ask, and Wii U was a very casual-focused console still

I'd wager that dual items came from them experimenting while beefing up battle mode and remembering that Double Dash was fun

Much of what we've seen from Nintendo for the Switch is moving towards higher gameplay complexity
I'm all for another round of that
 
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KingBroly

Banned
Never thought having 1 item at a time was due to ram limitations. I thought it was just an intentional design choice.
 
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13ruce

Banned
New dlc would be cool maybe the same deal as mario kart 8 wii u? Cheap package and same amount of dlc content like last time.
 
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Futureman

Member
Jaded Alyx said:
They're not going to make a new Mario Kart within a year, and even if they could, they would just release that instead of bothering to port 8.
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yea I agree. I guess for me I'm such a casual MK fan that if I buy one, I doubt I'll want another in a few years.

Reading through this topic, the consensus seems to be "What could Nintendo possibly do to make MK 9 interesting/different?"

maybe Nintendo releasing MK 8 DX is a sign that the next kart racer will be a Nintendo Kart.
 
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Linkstrikesback

Member
Neo_Geo said:
That shouldn't be a green light to screw over the fans that actually purchased a Wii U and this game, they should charge full price for a game definitely worthy of the price of entry. On the flip side, this game should be offered to those that have the Digital base game with all DLC linked to their account for a nominal upgrade fee, say $10-$15 for Base Game+All DLC owners and $20-$25 for Base Game only owners at the absolute most.

I am really betting on Nintendo absolutely fucking their most loyal customers and charging the same price no matter what they previously owned, which would be sad and absolutely pathetic of them. I hope I am proven wrong!
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Serious question: how many console remasters have offer discounts for people owning them previously? I know it happened a few times on of but don't know of any times it happened on console.
 
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Salex_

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For anyone whose played the Switch version, especially in handheld mode, is there any AA (anti-aliasing)? The YouTube encoding on the official trailer is so bad. It seems like there's less jaggies than the Wii U version though.

Oregano said:
No mention of AA but 1080p on TV and 720p on the handheld screen will be a lot less jaggy than the Wii U version. Playing it on the gamepad also meant it had compression/streaming artefacts.
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All I need is a little less jaggies and it'll be perfect. I can't want to see this in person using handheld mode.
 
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Oregano

Member
Salex_ said:
For anyone whose played the Switch version, especially in handheld mode, is there any AA (anti-aliasing)? The YouTube encoding on the official trailer is so bad. It seems like there's less jaggies than the Wii U version though.
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No mention of AA but 1080p on TV and 720p on the handheld screen will be a lot less jaggy than the Wii U version. Playing it on the gamepad also meant it had compression/streaming artefacts.
 
Lynd7

Lynd7

Member
I'm worried the addition of more items will make the game super annoying like Mario Kart Wii, constantly being hit and blasted by the CPU on the last corners of the tracks.
 
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marc^o^

Nintendo's Pro Bono PR Firm
Lynd7 said:
I'm worried the addition of more items will make the game super annoying like Mario Kart Wii, constantly being hit and blasted by the CPU on the last corners of the tracks.
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You'll also have twice as many chances to get a defensive item.
 
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Spy

Member
I don't know how many feel this way but it would be nice to have the option to use one item if you prefer the vanilla Mario Kart 8 way.

Also, I doubt this will ever happen but I wish you could change the speed of Battle Mode to 200cc and remove the time limit in favor of an elimination mode like Mario Kart 64.
 
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