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Horizon: Zero Dawn | Review Thread

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Elandyll

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Alo0oy said:
Is IGN Middle East on metacritic? I think they'll give it a 9 or 10 based on the writer's reaction on twitter.

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They only list IGN Us, Italy and Spain, but their list isn't exhaustive, so maybe.
 
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pixellated_man

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Nightengale said:
Also, as much as I think the USGamer review is poorly written, even if it was passed to another reviewer within the USGamer circle, Kat Bailey has said she pretty much shares the same opinion as the reviewer for Horizon and given she's the EiC, it would had gotten a 5 anyway.

It's fun to see if Horizon could crack 89, but I also don't think it's good to harp so much on that single review. It's not the sole middling review for Horizon, and to varying degrees there are a few folks who are down on Horizon in general, even if vast majority disagrees with them.
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Yep. Time to let go of that USgamer review folks. Enough has been written about that already and it is the kind of thing that gives review threads a bad reputation.
 
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MegaSackman

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Does The Verge review has been posted here?

The Verge Review

Thankfully Horizon's plentiful missions rarely feel so restricting or straightforward. There aren't many boring fetch quests to be found here — they're dubbed ”errands," they're optional, and they're tucked into their own corner of the menu, should you prefer skipping them altogether. Even the side missions, filed under ”side quests," typically a chore in open-world games, are interesting and varied, both in terms of what you're doing and why.
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At times it tries to do too much, but its ambition is refreshing, as is the fact that it somehow manages to pull almost all of its grand ideas off.
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I'm not sure if its spoilery but it left me thinking in the end of the article. Would like someone who has played the game confirm.
 
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So I get home and the girlfriend wants to watch Wall-E. so I watch fucking Wall-E, which was pretty great, and now there's a 20 minute install. Of the countless games I've played on PS4, I don't think I've ever seen this.
 
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ronaldthump

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MegaSackman said:
Does The Verge review has been posted here?

The Verge Review





I'm not sure if its spoilery but it left me thinking in the end of the article. Would like someone who has played the game confirm.
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what's too spoilery? But yes, its true. Horizon breaks down quest into

Main
Side
Errands

Side quests tend to have more story/cutscenes than errands. And yes, the sidequests can be layered and interesting. I wandered into a town and there's a sidequest
to fight my first rockhunter
- quite a difficult one and very satisfying to finish.

Errands also include the "mini errands" you as a player can create for resource hunting. Say you want to get a "Grazer heart" for an item you want to buy from the merchant. You can add it as a quest and it goes into errand and it shows you where to go on a map to hunt for grazers or any other beasts that will have your item. This alone is one of the best features Horizon has added to any game.
 
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nycgamer4ever

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atr0cious said:
I'm sorry, but appealing to the masses is not really how to make a case. All I'm reading is, "they don't like what I like, therefore bad." Well sure, you can do that, dismiss them and never read their stuff again; they will become a barometer for what you would like. I disagreed with Ebert on many movies but I didn't then try to discredit him for not liking it. Again, listen to the podcast I linked earlier, they have very similar feelings, and have a great healthy conversation about the narrative. Also dinosaurs, while awesome, isn't really something that automatically means it's great. Monster hunter has more variety in every department, mechanics, weapon options, armor, monsters has been awhile for a bit. Some people have played so many games, they've had their fill, and/or know what they want in these types of games.

This is starting to sound like the old objective review a certain group always cried for. Let's not start with this attitude.
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You are doing your best to defend that review and yet you haven't presented any reasoning as to why that is a good review, where as anyone who read the review thoroughly can point to many flaws why that was a terribly written review that serves no purpose other than to voice the reviewers opinion that she didn't like. And that is ok to not like a game, but as a professional you have an audience and should strive to do a better job of detailing all aspects of the game including length, art, mechanics, etc. Not just the story didn't hook me so i didn't like it. Looking at her track record it's clear she is an inexperienced reviewer with 6 reviews and USGamer didn't think the game was important enough or big enough for them to put a more seasoned reviewer in place.

Reading the review as a potential buyer it just didn't do it's job.

That being said who cares about one review from a rookie that is clearly an outlier amongst many many good and professional reviews.
 
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MegaSackman

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ronaldthump said:
what's too spoilery? But yes, its true. Horizon breaks down quest into

Main
Side
Errands

Side quests tend to have more story/cutscenes than errands.

Errands also include the "mini errands" you as a player can create for resource hunting. Say you want to get a "Grazer heart" for an item you want to buy from the merchant. You can add it as a quest and it goes into errand and it shows you where to go on a map to hunt for grazers or any other beasts that will have your item. This alone is one of the best features Horizon has added to any game.
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Didn't post the excerpt here, it's the previous to last paragraph in the article. Maybe it's nothing.
 
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Nightengale said:
Also, as much as I think the USGamer review is poorly written, even if it was passed to another reviewer within the USGamer circle, Kat Bailey has said she pretty much shares the same opinion as the reviewer for Horizon and given she's the EiC, it would had gotten a 5 anyway.
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Not that I care, but in no way an EiC just gonna dismissed her staff's review publicly.
 
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SolidSnakex

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carlsojo said:
Man just wait until the Breath of the Wild review thread.
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The Zelda review thread will really only be huge if one of two things happens. It somehow ends up in the 80's instead of the 90's (which is super unlikely) or it starts touching OoT/Mario Galaxy/GTA territory (97-99). The embargo lifts a day before the game releases, so something shocking has to happen for it to grow this large. This one is big due to the early embargo and because the reviews didn't go the way some were expecting them to (it was a popular pick in the Flops of 2017 thread).
 
SilentFlyer

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hbkdx12 said:
Im considering getting the digital deluxe edition with that comes with a couple of outfits.

Code: 
Carja Storm Ranger Outfit and Mighty Bow
Banuk Trailblazer Outfit and Culling Bow
Banuk Traveller Pack
Carja Trapper Pack
Nora Keeper Pack

I'm assuming these are just things that you can get through regular play but just sooner. Anyone know for sure? Can't seem to find a definitive answer.

I'm not sure if the extra tenner is worth it. If it's stuff that you can eventually come across with normal play i may just pass
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I'm on the same boat. And another gafder confirmed these outfits are not attainable in-game in anyway. So, I am still undecided whether to pre-order standard or duluxe.
 
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LastMinuteHero

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SolidSnakex said:
The Zelda review thread will really only be huge if one of two things happens. It somehow ends up in the 80's instead of the 90's (which is super unlikely) or it starts touching OoT/Mario Galaxy/GTA territory (97-99). The embargo lifts a day before the game releases, so something shocking has to happen for it to grow this large. This one is big due to the early embargo and because the reviews didn't go the way some were expecting them to (it was a popular pick in the Flops of 2017 thread).
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This will never not be funny and embarrassing
 
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Jawbreaker

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nycgamer4ever said:
You are doing your best to defend that review and yet you haven't presented any reasoning as to why that is a good review, where as anyone who read the review thoroughly can point to many flaws why that was a terribly written review that serves no purpose other than to voice the reviewers opinion that she didn't like. And that is ok to not like a game, but as a professional you have an audience and should strive to do a better job of detailing all aspects of the game including length, art, mechanics, etc. Not just the story didn't hook me so i didn't like it. Looking at her track record it's clear she is an inexperienced reviewer with 6 reviews and USGamer didn't think the game was important enough or big enough for them to put a more seasoned reviewer in place.

Reading the review as a potential buyer it just didn't do it's job.

That being said who cares about one review from a rookie that is clearly an outlier amongst many many good and professional reviews.
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Well, it didn't help that their Editor-in-Chief was taken aback by the game's glowing reviews because what she had seen/heard wasn't favorable. I'm guessing they would've handed the review to a more experienced individual if they felt it was going to be a critical hit. This is all conjecture on my part, of course.
 
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Elfstruck said:
Not that I care, but in no way an EiC gonna just dismissed her staff's review publicly.
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And the staff in question's first professional review. No easier way to get your employee to hate you.

I tend to side on the grade scale for review scores. A is 90, C is 70, F is 59 or less. It has one "failing" grade, if I'm not mistaken. Definitely an outlier either way.
 
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Elfstruck

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SolidSnakex said:
The Zelda review thread will really only be huge if one of two things happens. It somehow ends up in the 80's instead of the 90's (which is super unlikely) or it starts touching OoT/Mario Galaxy/GTA territory (97-99). The embargo lifts a day before the game releases, so something shocking has to happen for it to grow this large. This one is big due to the early embargo and because the reviews didn't go the way some were expecting them to (it was a popular pick in the Flops of 2017 thread).
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If it ends up at 88-89, oh boy.....
 
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Icolin

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SolidSnakex said:
The Zelda review thread will really only be huge if one of two things happens. It somehow ends up in the 80's instead of the 90's (which is super unlikely) or it starts touching OoT/Mario Galaxy/GTA territory (97-99). The embargo lifts a day before the game releases, so something shocking has to happen for it to grow this large. This one is big due to the early embargo and because the reviews didn't go the way some were expecting them to (it was a popular pick in the Flops of 2017 thread).
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Skeeter49

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I need to relook at that predict the flops thread. When I saw where it was going, I stopped reading, waiting for Horizon reviews, so when I did glance at that thread, I had context/ could laugh at it.
 
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reKon

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I'm so hyped for both of these games. I may try to push back when I start Horizon, even though I'm getting it day one. I haven't played Dark Souls and I don't want Horizon to ruin that for me because I think I'll enjoy the combat more. Still haven't haven't played Witcher 3 though.

If I start Witcher 3 and can't get into it after at least 20 hours, I'm giving up on it just like I did with Witcher 2 because the combat gameplay and inventory system was ass (good story though).

I'm thinking of going in this order: Dark Souls, Horizon, Witcher 3 then Bloodborne....

I've never played a Souls game so if it manages to piss me off too much, I may not bother.

Later in the year I'll play Zelda and hopefully around that time I RDR2 drops, or I get more new on when it actually drops.

This is the problem you have when you have a strong backlog of games. Also, Sorry Final Fantasy XV. I put like 67 hours and I don't think I can even come back to it after all this that's coming out.
 
Mikey Jr.

Mikey Jr.

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So put about 3 or 4 hours in so far.

Fuck guys, the graphics at night. Gorgeous!! Absolutely stunning.

No open world looks like this.
 
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Elfstruck

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reKon said:
This is the problem you have when you have a strong backlog of games. Also, Sorry Final Fantasy XV. I put like 67 hours and I don't think I can even come back to it after all this that's coming out.
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I stopped at the part where
Noctis woke up in the prison?
and will probably never fish it. I lost interest when
Luna
dies.
 
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Manmademan

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King_Moc said:
Are you trying to suggest it will only get good reviews because of its name?
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This is ABSOLUTELY a thing that happens with high profile games. Not "only" good reviews because of its pedigree, but there's some inflation built in.

GTA4 is the poster child for this one. Absurdly high reviews for that one. Dark Souls 2? Probably the same.

FFXIII may be an even better example: reviews for the sequel almost universally noted that "this game is better than its predecessor" yet scores were lower across the board.

There's a lot of reasons for this, from reviewers wanting to avoid backlash, to advertiser pressure, to reviewers themselves buying into hype, but it's obvious that it happens for certain established titles.
 
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reKon

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Dark Cloud said:
Except that's not going to happen. Lol
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Exactly. I've calling called it at a 96, which would be basically a 98 last gen. It's going to be a special one.

Manmademan said:
This is ABSOLUTELY a thing that happens with high profile games.

GTA4 is the poster child for this one. Absurdly high reviews for that one.

FFXIII may be an even better example: reviews for the sequel almost universally noted that "this game is better than its predecessor" yet scores were lower across the board.

There's a lot of reasons for this, from reviewers wanting to avoid backlash, to advertiser pressure, to reviewers themselves buying into hype, but it's obvious that it happens for certain established titles.
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I've read enough previews to understand why reviewers are loving it. It seems like there's a level of interaction that just has been seen in open world games before (think environmental interaction, weapons/physics, and essentially being able to pretty much actually go anywhere). I'm thinking that the biggest fault of the game is going to end up being performance, which Bloodborne suffered from, but its review scores didn't.
 
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dabig2

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pixellated_man said:
Yep. Time to let go of that USgamer review folks. Enough has been written about that already and it is the kind of thing that gives review threads a bad reputation.
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I'm fine with the gnashing of teeth as long as everyone gets it out of their system in this thread, and that they don't carry it over to the OT.
 
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