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04/28.
Glad that Bomberman and DQH did "ok"
None of those are surprising at all imo. Disgaea 5 and Nobunga are full priced 2+years old ports.
None of those are surprising at all imo. Disgaea 5 and Nobunga are full priced 2+years old ports.
LordOcidax
Member
Great Launch for the Switch. How this compared to the PS4, WiiU and others system at launch? Also, Zelda above Horizon by a fair margin (almost double). I thought that was confirmed that Horizon beaten Zelda in Japan because the PS4 users base.
Lord_Byron28
Member
BotW sales are pretty good considering the series has been selling pretty poorly since TP in Japan. Except for PH which is one of the highest selling Zeldas over there.
FreedomFighter
Member
An HD Switch port of XX would've been too smart. Also would've been the only way I would've been interested enough to purchase the game. I'm not doing all thos low and high rank quests again.
01./00. [NSW] The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild # <ADV> (Nintendo) {2017.03.03} (¥6.980) - 186.379 / NEW
03./00. [NSW] 1-2-Switch <ETC> (Nintendo) {2017.03.03} (¥4.980) - 79.536 / NEW
06./00. [NSW] Super Bomberman R <ACT> (Konami) {2017.03.03} (¥4.980) - 36.623 / NEW
07./00. [NSW] Dragon Quest Heroes I & II for Nintendo Switch <Dragon Quest Heroes: The World Tree's Woe and the Blight Below \ Dragon Quest Heroes II> <RPG> (Square Enix) {2017.03.03} (¥8.800) - 25.606 / NEW
10./00. [NSW] Puyo Puyo Tetris <PZL> (Sega) {2017.03.03} (¥4.990) - 12.854 / NEW
That is 340,998 in total software sale, it is more than the hardware sold, so I'm not sure what are people talking about. Japan has more launch game than the rest of the world.
03./00. [NSW] 1-2-Switch <ETC> (Nintendo) {2017.03.03} (¥4.980) - 79.536 / NEW
06./00. [NSW] Super Bomberman R <ACT> (Konami) {2017.03.03} (¥4.980) - 36.623 / NEW
07./00. [NSW] Dragon Quest Heroes I & II for Nintendo Switch <Dragon Quest Heroes: The World Tree's Woe and the Blight Below \ Dragon Quest Heroes II> <RPG> (Square Enix) {2017.03.03} (¥8.800) - 25.606 / NEW
10./00. [NSW] Puyo Puyo Tetris <PZL> (Sega) {2017.03.03} (¥4.990) - 12.854 / NEW
That is 340,998 in total software sale, it is more than the hardware sold, so I'm not sure what are people talking about. Japan has more launch game than the rest of the world.
Actually with the exception of Bomberman every retail release on Switch from third parties is a late port.
Yeah, I was merely pointing out that the level of there (lack of) success isn't surprising.
DQH doing better than them all makes sense as its DQ and it's not as late a port as the rest.
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
Given on how heavily MHX relies on the second screen of the 3DS, I don't think it's as much of a trivial port job as you'd like
In two days, 1-2-Switch sold more than XB1 LTD.
ethomaz
Banned
PS4 Never Give Up Road Trip
Week 150: PS3 3,533,131 / PS4 4,100,667
Week 151: PS3 3,573,091 / PS4 4,187,836
Week 152: PS3 3,610,629 / PS4 4,234,839
Week 153: PS3 3,641,525 / PS4 4,268,215
Week 154: PS3 3,671,756 / PS4 4,308,886
Week 155: PS3 3,701,733 / PS4 4,345,264
Week 156: PS3 3,737,794 / PS4 4,374,239
Week 157: PS3 3,786,719 / PS4 4,401,442
Week 158: PS3 3,825,217 / PS4 4,444,931
Week 159: PS3 3,859,969 / PS4 4,482,738
Week 160: PS3 3,906,497
Week 161: PS3 3,964,279
Week 162: PS3 4,039,395
Week 163: PS3 4,276,480
Week 164: PS3 4,386,999
Week 165: PS3 4,501,368
Well PS4 will reach 4.5m next week... about 5 weeks early than PS3.
For 5.0m? ~26k per week... at the actual pace it will reach it about 5 weeks early than PS3.
Week 150: PS3 3,533,131 / PS4 4,100,667
Week 151: PS3 3,573,091 / PS4 4,187,836
Week 152: PS3 3,610,629 / PS4 4,234,839
Week 153: PS3 3,641,525 / PS4 4,268,215
Week 154: PS3 3,671,756 / PS4 4,308,886
Week 155: PS3 3,701,733 / PS4 4,345,264
Week 156: PS3 3,737,794 / PS4 4,374,239
Week 157: PS3 3,786,719 / PS4 4,401,442
Week 158: PS3 3,825,217 / PS4 4,444,931
Week 159: PS3 3,859,969 / PS4 4,482,738
Week 160: PS3 3,906,497
Week 161: PS3 3,964,279
Week 162: PS3 4,039,395
Week 163: PS3 4,276,480
Week 164: PS3 4,386,999
Week 165: PS3 4,501,368
Well PS4 will reach 4.5m next week... about 5 weeks early than PS3.
For 5.0m? ~26k per week... at the actual pace it will reach it about 5 weeks early than PS3.
Yeah, they're all late ports so obviously they won't sell much. I just thought that it's worth mentioning because others only talked about Disgaea 5.
I thought maybe westerners importing I am Setsuna (like me) because of it's English friendly release might have helped it, but that's likely only a few hundred copies!
Primethius
Banned
Pretty good numbers for Horizon.
frankie_baby
Member
Finish zelda next week? Hahaha thats a good one
SporeCrawler
Member
So horizon did not outsell zelda.. comget am cry?
Probably best Bomberman launch sales since N64 age.
Kresnik258
Member
Nobunaga's isn't surprising, The last two games (Way of Heaven/Sphere of Influence) opened to 6.1k and 5.6k on Vita respectively (and went on to sell 36k/53k LT with all versions combined).
I am Setsuna is a whole case of "I don't know why they bothered".
FreedomFighter
Member
Wat? The bottom screen on 3DS just de-clutters the HUD. Your special attacks could be mapped to the left joycon's face buttons/D-Pad. Not complicated. Also didn't stop them from porting it to 3G to Wii U, which I played with a Pro Controller with no Gamepad use.
We played Monster Hunter without a second screen for years. Just takes a bit of minor reworking.
MisterR
Member
Yes they do. Misses the point entirely though. So you think that Japanese gamers, who already have a lower digital download rate are going to go spend significant extra to download games instead of just getting the game physically?
LordOcidax
Member
Zelda sold the double... Not even close.
Gotdatmoney
Member
Apparently game data transfers over so you wont have to. Granted I am not buying XX for 3DS period when it launches i internationally because 4 MH on one system is excess for me especially when all ny buds didnt buy generations because 4U was better content wise. If it goes to Switch I will for better graphics and controller support.
Physical is usually slightly cheaper as well since stores discount even new games a bit but the digital prices stay at full.
You're forgetting the fact that the switch has two sticks which frees up the d-pad for hunter arts. There's also the triggers which can act as modifiers for quick crafting.
Dark Cloud
Member
I guess I'll wait for the numbers with digital sales from Nintendo. I'm hoping Bomberman had some good digital sales.
FreedomFighter
Member
That's good to know. Maybe I'll give it a go since game data transfers. I'd really like to play it on Switch in dock mode with a Pro Controller though. Ah well.
Hoping to see Disgaea 5 in Famitsu's top 30
Less than 5k. And people thought it'd sell up to 60k. Time to port Disgaea D2 to the Vita.
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
the touch screen also indicates hunter art charge levels, and you'd also have to bind kick/special-action somewhere as well
there's also the second screen being used for things like chat actions, village warping, etc
3G started out as a game using a single screen that had additional second screen functionality added to it. MHX started out with the assumption of two screens. one is much easier to decouple than the other
DriftingSpirit
Member
Nice numbers for Horizon.
Yeah, Nobunaga being this low is not surprising in the slightiest. Actually, selling at around 5,000 copies would've been the best case scenario.
Waiting for Famitsu numbers before making more historical comparisons and (potentially) for more Switch launch titles. However, small tidbit: Puyo Puyo Tetris did...very well for what it is (Media Create)?
02./00. [3DS] Puyo Puyo Tetris <PZL> (Sega) {2014.02.06} (¥5.229) - 44.627 / NEW
12./00. [PS3] Puyo Puyo Tetris <PZL> (Sega) {2014.02.06} (¥5.229) - 10.306 / NEW
14./00. [PSV] Puyo Puyo Tetris <PZL> (Sega) {2014.02.06} (¥5.229) - 8.973 / NEW
20./16. [3DS] Monster Hunter 4 # <ACT> (Capcom) {2013.09.14} (¥5.990) - 5.654 / 3.214.065 (-22%) - reference
25./00. [WIU] Puyo Puyo Tetris <PZL> (Sega) {2014.02.06} (¥5.229)
It actually was the second best debut for the game despite being a very late port. Also, its debut wasn't that far from Puyo Puyo Chronicles
08./00. [3DS] Puyo Puyo Chronicle # <RPG> (Sega) {2016.12.08} (¥5.490) - 13.873 / NEW
According to Game Data Library, best debut since Bomberman Land on PS1 (2000), that sold about 32k. Famitsu data, but doesn't change much because sales are crap for pretty much all games that followed that one.
Why is that?
And of course digital will only increase in the future, but the talk is about how it would influence overall sales right now for the launch titles
FreedomFighter
Member
Everything you mention regarding second screen has a single screen solution. And there are plenty of buttons on the joycons to handle kick and special action. There's +, -, ZR, ZL.
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
This might be extreme tales from my ass since I found it unsourced on 2ch while looking for other stuff, but it appears to be some sort of retailer survey detailing software titles purchased alongside a Switch
The point I'm making isn't that a single-screen solution is impossible, it's that the single-screen solution requires Capcom to make non-trivial adjustments to backport. I'm certain Capcom could have gotten MHXX-S out in time for a simultaneous release with the 3DS version but I don't think it's something that is worth pulling additional staff working on MH5 or whoknowswhat
ZR and ZL are already mapped to target lock and chat; +/- are menu buttons.
The point I'm making isn't that a single-screen solution is impossible, it's that the single-screen solution requires Capcom to make non-trivial adjustments to backport. I'm certain Capcom could have gotten MHXX-S out in time for a simultaneous release with the 3DS version but I don't think it's something that is worth pulling additional staff working on MH5 or whoknowswhat
preorder (?) numbers in the previous thread hzd exceeded zelda
Kick can be mapped to the select button. Special action can be mapped to one of the triggers. Chat actions can be mapped to the other trigger. Village warping can simply be added to the start menu.
ZSaberLink
Media Create Maven
Zelda selling poorly lol. Still sells 400-500K per release on 3DS (for OOT3D it was 600K, MM3D + ALBW it was > 400K). Given that it's a launch game, it has the potential to sell more like OOT3D. We'll see though. Those are still decently good sales in Japan. It's just no longer the juggernaut it is in the West.
Gotdatmoney
Member
I honestly exoect we'll get a 3U situation for the West wherenit launches on both systems. 3DS ks in it's last year. By the time they are ready to launch XX it's not going to be very rewlistic to launch games on it
Enough buttons go unused in 3U on WiiU that this stuff literally would not be an issue. The fact kick was mapped to the touch screen was awful btw. It was on - in Tri and 3U. Games have existed forever without a second screen.
FalsettoVibe
Member
Good week overall.
ゼルダの伝説 ブレス オブ ザ ワイルド 71.4 % - Zelda
1-2-Switch 15.4 %
いっしょにチョキッと スニッパーズ 5.5 % - Snipperclips
ドラゴンクエストヒーローズI・II for Nintendo Switch 7.3 % Dragon Heroes I-II
スーパーボンバーマンR 12.1 % Super Bombaman R
信長の野望・創造 with パワーアップキット 3.9 % Nobunaga
いけにえと雪のセツナ 3.4 % Setsuna
ぷよぷよテトリスＳ 4.8 % Puyo Puyo
魔界戦記ディスガイア5 4.9 % Disgaea
アケアカNEOGEO ザ・キング・オブ・ファイターズ 98 2.9 %
アケアカNEOGEO わくわく7 3.0 %
アケアカNEOGEO ショックトルーパーズ 2.6 %
アケアカNEOGEO ワールドヒーローズパーフェクト 2.4 %
アケアカNEOGEO メタルスラッグ3 2.8 %
VOEZ 3.3 %
オセロ 3.0 % Othello
新大開拓時代 ～街をつくろう～ 2.8 % Daikatana
空飛ぶブンブンバーン 3.1 % Vroom
そるだむ 開花宣言 3.2 %
ブラスターマスター ゼロ 3.0 % Blaster Master Zero
特に購入しない 14.7 % not buying anything in particular (?)
FreedomFighter
Member
I disagree with the notion that owning a cart is so much better.
It's still low relative to the west. 400-500k is Fire Emblem numbers now.
Over 200k week 1 for Zelda in Japan seems good to me.