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Mass Effect: Andromeda | Review Thread

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Ivory Samoan

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Massively divisive, about what I expected - perhaps a little lower.

Really surprised at PC Gamer's 80 - their preview did not in any way shape or form look like it was going anywhere near that good, must have really kicked in for them in the back end post Eos/Trial.

Forbes review is a good read - always seem to agree with Tassi, great writer IMO.
 

sjay1994

Member
They didn't make that but they developed another RPG currently beating Andromeda by a point.

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OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH GOD

I know just a few pages ago I said I felt review inflation has decreased, but fuck man.... this is not a good factoid
 

Laughing Banana

Weeping Pickle
This from Hardcore gamer is very worrying:

Now for the section of the review that brings me no joy talking about: bugs. While all open world games have issues due to the large number of moving parts, Mass Effect: Andromeda is a complete mess. Over the sixty hours we put into Andromeda, we ran into a staggering amount of issues in the open world, conversations, cutscenes and segmented missions. For starters, we've had party member models multiply in the Tempest (your ship), enemies fight in the T-pose position, doors refusing to open, trapping us inside, having the ability to phase through geometry, and NPCs and enemies who turned invisible (we're not talking about the ones who have a cloaking ability, either). There were also environmental models that disappeared, allies that merged into the floor horizontally, enemies either skated around or floated in the air, event triggers refused to occur, objects obstructed our vision in conversations, and we even phased through the ground a couple of times and were unable to escape. These are just a handful of the many bugs we ran into during our time in the Andromeda galaxy, causing much frustration and constantly reloading.

Fortunately, none of these are game breaking issues, or at least the ones we listed above aren't. There were a couple of instances that forced us to close the application entirely. For starters, after sending a probe to an asteroid, the camera would occasionally swoop in automatically and stay peering at an infinite abyss, with button commands ceasing any functionality. After restarting the game, we came back only to see Ryder had taken massive damage, from what I expect is from being jettisoned into deep space instead of the probe. While this happened multiple times, they don't compare to the completely broken segments and scenes. One specific instance that's still fresh on the mind is during one of the Loyalty missions, where a platform for an elevator was nowhere to be seen. After about ten minutes of wandering around a lifeless station, I jumped outside the boundaries only to be teleported back to the beginning of the checkpoint with newly spawned enemies and the elevator finally intact. After riding the elevator and defeating a handful of gun-toting raiders in the following area, the final scene for the mission completely broke animations, scene camera positions, and even character models, just before going into an endless loading screen. At the very least Mass Effect: Andromeda is generous with the autosaves, but this is just one example of many instances that occurred throughout our lengthy playthrough. It was a nightmare.

Bugs and glitches abound, enough for the reviewer to call it a nightmare, oh mannn :(((
 

Karak

Member
Anybody here think that the string of amazing triple A games released this year made it harder for Mass Effect and its flaws, like a standard was raised in the last few weeks?

Its possible but the game straight up has issues that don't have to be explained to be seen. Some games do and so folks can miss them.
This from Hardcore gamer is very worrying:
Yup. Happened an incredible number of times.
 

Lupo

Neo Member
I agree with what several others have said already. I think the timing for this game was very unfortunate. Remember how Witcher 3 raised the bar somewhat and made Dragon Age: Inquistion feel very dated just one year later?

The same thing happened this year, but with multiple games, and since games like Horizon, Nier, and Zelda were released so close together, it was probably impossible to not have those comparisons linger on in your mind as this game was reviewed.
 

Servbot24

Banned
I am sorry to say this was easy to see coming. I am sure that a lot of passion and hard work went into this. Looks like it is still a competent game that hardcore Bioware fans should try out, but for the less devoted there are just too many other games to play to have to put up with the flaws that have been running for a decade.
 

TI82

Banned
I think a lot of people are jumping the gun already. The fact that reviews are this divisive makes me much more curious about the game and want to play now instead of waiting for patchworks.

Pay $5 and play the Origin trial, seriously.

This from Hardcore gamer is very worrying:



Bugs and glitches abound, enough for the reviewer to call it a nightmare, oh mannn :(((

I had similar experience with the trial though not quite that terrible. The first cutscene with the doctor and your
twin sibling, spoiler I guess?
in the cryopod the doctor was completely frozen in her T-pose except her Omni-tool was still moving around as if she was using it. And then I'd have these REALLY annoying bugs trying to climb things while moving around and Ryder would just climb up and fall down over and over and over.

Buggy game all around and very rushed it seems.
 

A-V-B

Member
And this is the worst case scenario, my worst nightmare, when it came to how they would handle removing paragon/renegade. >_<

Perhaps most significantly, they made the bold decision to remove good/evil responses that have been a mainstay of the developers’ RPGs, but they’ve failed to replace them with anything close to as meaningful. As a result, they’ve essentially removed the majority of choice at all. At one point you’re offered an extremely significant deal that contains an element that’s tantamount to extortion. In any other BioWare game before you’d argue this, perhaps choose it as the lesser of two evils, or reject it based on principle. Here you get two choices: to accept it, or accept it while making a joke. It’s quite bizarre how far they’ve gone in removing the illusion of autonomy, while still seeming to think they’re offering dialogue choice.
 
Welp, looks like I'll be sticking with ME3 multiplayer to get my Mass Effect fix. At least till this game gets tons of patches, that's if they even try to fix it and not just cut their losses.

KOTOR2 was done by Obsidian and is a damn fine rpg, imo.

Yep, I completed that game once then I left it alone for a few years then I went back to it again and discovered a ton of stuff that I never saw the first time.
 

KaYotiX

Banned
Will be perfect to play on EA Access when it's out. By then I'm hoping the issues are patched.

Prolly end up around a 80 on MC
 
I agree with what several others have said already. I think the timing for this game was very unfortunate. Remember how Witcher 3 raised the bar somewhat and made Dragon Age: Inquistion feel very dated just one year later?

The Witcher 3 does the same thing with Andromeda lol
 

ironcreed

Banned
Honestly, 73 isn't so bad. It's disappointing for a Mass Effect game but I'm sure fans will get some enjoyment out of it.

No, it's not. On a proper 10 scale, a 7 out of 10 is always good in my book. And many times games that score in that range end up being fantastic for me, so go figure.
 

noise36

Member
disappointing... but still hyped for this! I finished all the others...cant see myself not enjoying this one if its anything like the rest.
 

Snagret

Member
Fascinating how divisive this is, by definition. Beyond the scores, the actual substance in these reviews is so widely varied in preference. We have reviews praising the combat and moment-to-moment game design, lamenting the loss of an interesting plot and cast. And then we have similarly scored reviews praising the narrative, premise, and developing cast, while critiquing the game design and play. There's no consensus on whether this feels totally faithful to the franchise namesake, a spin-off, or a vast detraction from familiarity.

This is the most interesting take away for me. It's not just middling scores, of which I don't particularly care about. It's the absence of any consensus towards so many of the components that make up Andromeda as the next Mass Effect game. No matter how you feel about the trial, or the pre-release media and previews, or hype and excitement, or worries and fears; these reviews swing so far in so many directions that I feel fan reception will be equally inconsistent.

And honestly, that kinda makes me even more interested.
This is where I'm at. I'm just so curious about where this game goes by the end. Even if it breaks bad, I'll still have the multiplayer to return to every few months for the next couple years like I did with 3.

Also, I'm surprised at people lamenting the meta score. Mid-70s is totally solid for a game a lot people (who mostly haven't played through the game) are saying is a total dumpster fire. A lot of 7's, 8's, and 9s with a few lower scores dragging down the average a bit seems much more kind than I was expecting from the (admittedly few) early impressions I've heard from gaming press.
 
Fascinating how divisive this is, by definition. Beyond the scores, the actual substance in these reviews is so widely varied in preference. We have reviews praising the combat and moment-to-moment game design, lamenting the loss of an interesting plot and cast. And then we have similarly scored reviews praising the narrative, premise, and developing cast, while critiquing the game design and play. There's no consensus on whether this feels totally faithful to the franchise namesake, a spin-off, or a vast detraction from familiarity.

This is the most interesting take away for me. It's not just middling scores, of which I don't particularly care about. It's the absence of any consensus towards so many of the components that make up Andromeda as the next Mass Effect game. No matter how you feel about the trial, or the pre-release media and previews, or hype and excitement, or worries and fears; these reviews swing so far in so many directions that I feel fan reception will be equally inconsistent.

And honestly, that kinda makes me even more interested.

I don't know, I see a lot of consensus on a lot of the individual parts of the game. For instance most people like the combat and world design, and most people dislike the writing and animations.
 

Wagram

Member
73 isn't a bad score. Nier and Drakengard are in the 60s and I love them, but the problem is Andromeda is a mass audience, high budget game from a very reputable series. That score is a failure by legacy standards.
 
To the reviewers that mentioned performance issues....

Go read your last few reviews you hypocrites, usual reviewer bullshit, you just cant find an honest one except for JIM.

Hopefully Pro will sort out perf.

Even IGN mark down performance - have these guys no fucking shame as I thought 20 FPS and freezing was a pass from their last few articles ?
Thanks for spicing up the thread.
 

Some Nobody

Junior Member
Oh god, everything, EVERYTHING, I hate about Bioware's writing (when it's bad) is here.

....Ewwwww. That kind of awkward binary response is making me regret wanting to buy this game. :( I guess I could go buy Tales of Berseria instead but...eh. >_<
 

kuroshiki

Member
It is all about perspective.

If I have absolutely nothing to play, 7/10 I will certainly give it a go.

When I'm surrounded by 8.5~9.0 games, including Yakuza 0, Nier automata, Horizon, Nioh....

I mean, why would I give this game a chance on release date when I barely have enough time to play all those high score games, in all one season?
 

Mifec

Member
73 isn't a bad score. Nier and Drakengard are in the 60s and I love them, but the problem is Andromeda is a mass audience, high budget game from a very reputable series. That score is a failure by legacy standards.

Drakengard is mediocre musou from a gameplay perspective, the story elevates it.
 

Femto.

Member
I don't think EA cars for ME that much anymore I mean they had the B-Team working on it.

They cared enough to green light another entry in the series and gave it to a B-team because it probably will still a sizable amount due to the name alone for those who aren't enthusiasts and follow reviews.
 
Seems wildly divisive, and as we all suspected really buggy.

As a huge fan of the franchise who was on the fence, I feel comfortable not getting it at launch now. There's too many other good games in my backlog as it is. I'll pick up Andromeda in 3-4 months when it's cheaper. Really too bad how this turned out
 

Staf

Member
No, it's not. On a proper 10 scale, a 7 out of 10 is always good in my book. And many times games that score in that range end up being fantastic for me, so go figure.

The thing is, the reviewers for games don't use a proper 10 scale. Wish they did.
 
Does CDKeys offer refounds? lol

Fuck me I was honestly not expecting this
Just don't preorder before reviews are out. You gain nothing by doing that. My plan was to pre order today if reviews suggested the story and writing quality improved as the game went on, but it sounds very much like it doesn't. I'll buy it a couple of weeks from now at a bargain price instead.
 
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