Prison. End of.
That'd be nice but we know that doesn't help all the time re: black people and the police.
I just want the government to recognize that racism is a real problem and to be able to intervene before it gets to this level.
Prison. End of.
I wonder why racists have gotten increasingly vocal and violent in the last while? Can't possibly be because Trump has incited and created a platform for violence against various minority groups throughout his campaign and beyond.
The problem is that they're not afraid anymore because they feel they won't be punished for it, but he isn't some anomaly. I only see these acts becoming more common beyond this. I don't think he should be held at some elevated status of racism, though. I doubt he has any additional immediate problems that resulted in this, because he gave up on one and immediately sought out a target he could off more easily. Too cognizant.
What do black people and the police have to do with this?That'd be nice but we know that doesn't help all the time re: black people and the police.
I just want the government to recognize that racism is a real problem and to be able to intervene before it gets to this level.
Fucking hell. RIP. Hope that guy gets life.
Would it be better if he killed white and black with his sword? There is way more wrong with this guy then just racism.
I guess since he admits premeditated murder this should be capital punishment? Unless he goes for an insanity plea.
No.
Racism isn't a fucking mental illness. People are racist because there is a *blinking lights* Culture of Racism *blinking lights* in this country stemming from its founding. A culture of racism that gets passed on from generation to generation. A culture of racism that has never been fully addressed. From Emancipation, to Martin Luther King Jr and the end of Jim Crow, to the Black Power Movement of the 70s, to the first Black President, we just look for reasons to sweep it under the rug and pretend that we're beyond it. Meanwhile, that culture of racism grows and sustains itself.
That racist piece of shit may have been out of his goddamn mind to go out and actively look for people to kill, but that doesn't explain his racism. In this country, it is perfectly normal and well-adjusted for white people to hate black people. Because rarely do they face the consequences for their retched beliefs, and rarely do our so-called allies get over their fear of disturbing the fucking dinner table to call them out on those beliefs.
What do black people and the police have to do with this?
What do black people and the police have to do with this?
Leave mental illness out of this. Tired of people painting the mentally ill as violent. It's ok to have mental illness, btw. And it's too easy to call someone crazy because then we don't have to take a hard look at our society.Well you're all correct, but when I say treated as a mental illness I mean that we as a society need to know that people who are racist are also not in a right/ normal well adjusted state of mind.
It's an extra means to let people know that this is not ok.
It's a gladius machete from coldsteel. I have one for yard work. I have their kukri too. They were both on sale for $20 each. He probably just got it because they are cheap but utility grade reliable. Crazy imaging how much hatred one must have in order yo pin someone to the ground with it. Christ..Looks like a recreation of Roman gladius or something like that.
I wonder, do white supremacist use Roman symbols? I know they've perverted Norse and viking mythology and stuff at least.
Violence isn't mental illness. The mentally ill are nor more likely to be violent than the neurotypical.
Violence is a trait inherent in mankind, this weird desire to see it treated as a mental illness ignores that it's an action, not a state of being, and it's an action doable by anyone at any time under the right circumstances.
And while some features of racism may be genetic, this is not that. This is someone who has bought into it wholeheartedly as a choice. It's someone who has chosen to self-identify as a white supremacist, because it's easier to blame other people for his problems than it is to address them.
Laziness and willingness to blame others also isn't mental illness, but a common feature in most people.
So let's quit going on about mental illness until there's some clinical evidence that the person in question was mentally ill, shall we?
I wonder, do white supremacist use Roman symbols?
But therein lies the rub: the crazies that have become the alt-right over the years developed through this. Religious Component, Holy Roman Empire, Democracy is weakness, and etc.
They've been using actual Roman symbolism for a while, now. If I had to hazard a guess, it was because of how Nazis used Roman symbolism, but that they wanted to get a little more abstract on the way down.
And while the memes appear on its face to be related more to Warhammer 40kfurther use of latin phrases, Roman regalia, open idolization of the HRE among their numbers, beyond the use of simple image macros, leads me to believe otherwise.(I think we can all agree that only the most...touched in the head people would worship a decaying corpse on a rotting throne)
Still, it might just be an extra layer of abstraction from Nazi use of Roman symbols and standards. To the best of my knowledge, neonazis tend to grip onto anything they see as quintessentially 'white' (by their own definition), to label and categorize their own organizations.
Well, yeah - he chose the target that will offer the least resistance. Most people would at least use a gun to keep some distance from their victims. This guy went full blown fuck it and used a sword of all things to kill someone. That total lack of fear is what puts him on an elevated status for me.
Trump is just making it easier for more and more people to cross that line - to lose that fear that holds them back.
Google said:1. prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.
2. the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.
Violence isn't mental illness. The mentally ill are nor more likely to be violent than the neurotypical.
Violence is a trait inherent in mankind, this weird desire to see it treated as a mental illness ignores that it's an action, not a state of being, and it's an action doable by anyone at any time under the right circumstances.
And while some features of racism may be genetic, this is not that. This is someone who has bought into it wholeheartedly as a choice. It's someone who has chosen to self-identify as a white supremacist, because it's easier to blame other people for his problems than it is to address them.
Laziness and willingness to blame others also isn't mental illness, but a common feature in most people.
So let's quit going on about mental illness until there's some clinical evidence that the person in question was mentally ill, shall we?
Dude likes swords. Let's give him all the media exposure he can handle.
Which is funny since the Roman Empire was one of the most multi-ethnic states in the world at the time (not to mention the obvious fact that they'd be confused af at the modern concept of race)
I don't understand why that makes him an historian. I'm an historian and I don't care much about swords. I'd also appreciate not being somehow tied in with this man.
Prison. End of.
Regardless of how you want to spin his actions, there's no racism+, or racism lite. You're either racist, or you're not racist, with varying degrees of how loud you are. Differentiating him from other racists only makes others think, "Oh, well, I'm not that bad." They're just as bad when it comes to their ideals, they're just not terrorists.
He's a terrorist, that's where they differ. What you're using to set him apart is the fact that he murdered someone, which is awkward and has nothing to do with the definition of racism anyway:
He's not more or less racist. Full stop.
I don't understand why that makes him an historian. I'm an historian and I don't care much about swords. I'd also appreciate not being somehow tied in with this man.
The same could be said for the various ancient Celtic and Germanic people that white supremacists draw on. What important here isn't wie es eigentlich gewesen, but instead popular conceptions of identity and race/ethnicity.
I mean, I don't disagree with you?
My point is that it isn't so much a "mental illness" like others were talking about as much as people simply losing the fear that was holding them back. Those racists are far more scary than your typical racist. I'm not saying he is any less racist than others.
Why does racism need to extra means to show it is bad?Well you're all correct, but when I say treated as a mental illness I mean that we as a society need to know that people who are racist are also not in a right/ normal well adjusted state of mind.
It's an extra means to let people know that this is not ok.
Vast majority of racists are exposed to those they hate, yet they still racist. If you,as a black person, wants to live with them and defend your humanity on a daily basis. Do you, but fuck that being expectedThe way I saw it explained was that the people would get exposure therapy. There were already articles and studies done that show exposure to different groups leads to a decline in racism, my proposal would just force states to recognize the issue and do something about that. I'm not saying these guys shouldn't be jailed or anything by the way, but we need a shift in how we approach this issue I think.
fair point, but I do think this guy exhibited a ton of other mental health issues to take it as far as he did.
Look guys I'm not married to the idea, I'm just as angry and upset about it as you all are, but I also want to see real physical improvements to these situations and we have to have a dialogue somehow about how to treat people who act out their hate.
Far less. To YOU..right? I'm curious how this works.
I don't get it.
I'm hispanic
Y mi mama tambien
What's your point, Don Gete?
Why does racism need to extra means to show it is bad?
Vast majority of racists are exposed to those they hate, yet they still racist. If you,as a black person, wants to live with them and defend your humanity on a daily basis. Do you, but fuck that being expected
I don't know what you meant by "to YOU". Like, what were you implying? Did you think I was white or something? Help me out here, man.
What can one do when a man has nothing but utter hate in his heart?
I'll never understand what causes a person to hate on another based on their skin color, it's fucking stupid.
Holy shit. I didn't expect to read that he impaled the victim
RIP
But why isn't this on every network tho, right?
But why isn't this on every network tho, right?