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Media Create Sales: Week 11, 2017 (Mar 13 - Mar 19)

casiopao

Member
so what are the chances of Japan finding another 40K to 50K Switches for next week's sales data?

Very High? I don't think Nintendo will allow itself to miss that sweet sweet Testfire Boost there.

On Switch, i disagree on not competing with PS4 there. Switch in Japan, i feel is competing with every front. Why this happen? Because the blur between handheld and console market is more or less no more. (Vita is dead and 3DS is gone while Switch tried to get both PS4 and 3DS market under it.)

So it is now going to be an all out fight for the pie which is japan gaming market.
 
There will still be stock issues for the Switch next week. If I were to guess it won't be until May for the supply to meet demand.
 

Zedark

Member
There will still be stock issues for the Switch next week. If I were to guess it won't be until May for the supply to meet demand.
I think it depends on whether that rumour from WSJ is true that they are doubling production. Doubling the stock from April going forward would do a great deal in diminshing sellout, so if true I think it will not be massively supply constrained for very long.
 

Chris1964

Sales-Age Genius
Rise of shipments wasn't suddenly decided in a night and it will take some time for it to happen. Nintendo still hasn't given forecast for next FY, being 8m, 16m or something else.
 

hiska-kun

Member
Switch's stock situation update

しかし店頭在庫についてもネット販売と同様に現在は完売のところがほとんどである。現在は金曜から日曜にかけて再販されることが多い状況だ。まだ手に入れていない人は近くの取り扱い店舗に問い合わせてみよう。

Switch is sold out at the moment, but numerous shops will start a resale from Friday to Sunday. Check your closest shop for more information.

明日ヨドバシなどは事前に予約を受付た商品を3/24に渡す店舗がある模様だ。またビックカメラは店舗によっては3/26に抽選販売を行うところもある状況だ。そのほかの量販店などでもニンテンドースイッチは毎週末に少量ではあるが販売されているので今週末も全国的に店頭での販売はありそうだ。

From tomorrow 24th, Yodobashi Camera and other stores will sell the console, starting with the guests that made a reservation before.
In case of Bic Camera, they will have another Raffle Unit Sales on Sunday 26th.
Other stores will also recieve new Switch units every weekend. All stores across the country are expected to have some units this weekend.

https://gamewith.jp/gamedb/article/show/43620?from=ios
 

Chris1964

Sales-Age Genius
If Nintendo doubles shipment and still sells out the system won't face problems until Splatoon despite weak software output at first months.
 

z0m3le

Banned
Very High? I don't think Nintendo will allow itself to miss that sweet sweet Testfire Boost there.

On Switch, i disagree on not competing with PS4 there. Switch in Japan, i feel is competing with every front. Why this happen? Because the blur between handheld and console market is more or less no more. (Vita is dead and 3DS is gone while Switch tried to get both PS4 and 3DS market under it.)

So it is now going to be an all out fight for the pie which is japan gaming market.

I more meant in the west, as I stated in Japan, with Vita dying over the next 2 years and Nintendo killing off the 3DS over that same time frame, Switch should dominate there as PS4 so far seems to be selling around PS3's LTD (in a shorter time frame, but I expect PS5 to come sooner than PS4 came after PS3)

3DS sold nearly 5 million in its first year in Japan, I expect Switch to sell 3m to 5m depending on when Pokemon launches and a Monster Hunter announcement, I do think Switch will need to be bundled in Japan for it to really keep any sort of pace with 3DS's first year and will need a price cut next year along with Animal Crossing and maybe Yokai Watch.

Shipments for Switch in Japan so far are something like this:

1 - 350k
2 - 50k
3 - 50k

This is what I assume as well, Nintendo supposedly has 2.5 million available ww for March, with Reggie commenting that the original 2 million was for the first 3 weeks, so I'd be surprised if Nintendo doesn't ship a full 150k for the rest of March, targeting 600k shipped to Japan, I assume Nintendo is shipping the largest amount of devices to America, which is a more volatile market for them, with much more competition, striking there while they are still the hot product, I could see them shipping double to America, for those reasons, but I don't really have numbers to back it up, other than the 1.5 million reported for the first weekend, with Japan only selling 330k, and Europe probably selling ~400k America is the only place big enough to make up the majority of the difference IMO.

If Nintendo doubles shipment and still sells out the system won't face problems until Splatoon despite weak software output at first months.

I agree, Japan will likely buy into Switch, and as front loaded sales start to wane, Mario Kart should release right on que. Splatoon needs an early summer release to keep momentum high, and for us in the west, I hope it's around E3 so that it doesn't show up there, I'd rather Nintendo push unknown software, while Splatoon 2 has a very specific job to do in the Switch ecosystem, and that is help it sell in Japan through the slow months until possibly Pokemon and Mario come in the holidays.
 

Zedark

Member
This is what I assume as well, Nintendo supposedly has 2.5 million available ww for March, with Reggie commenting that the original 2 million was for the first 3 weeks, so I'd be surprised if Nintendo doesn't ship a full 150k for the rest of March, targeting 600k shipped to Japan, I assume Nintendo is shipping the largest amount of devices to America, which is a more volatile market for them, with much more competition, striking there while they are still the hot product, I could see them shipping double to America, for those reasons, but I don't really have numbers to back it up, other than the 1.5 million reported for the first weekend, with Japan only selling 330k, and Europe probably selling ~400k America is the only place big enough to make up the majority of the difference IMO.
These things kinda seem to make sense to me from a novice sales person's view. The Japanese shipments/sales of the two weeks after the launch week are 1/3 of the launch week's numbers. If we assume that the 1.5 million from WSJ is true, and assume this 1/3 addition carries over to other territories, then we would arrive conveniently at 2 million units shipped for the first 3 weeks, like Reggie told us. That would also make it plausible that they are shipping more than 2 million during March, otherwise there would be no units for the week of the Splatoon testfire, which doesn't make sense to me.

Now, for even more rampant speculation: Let's assume the 2.5 million number is indeed what will be shipped through out March. That means 500k are yet to be distributed. This number is conveniently 1/3 of the 1.5 million number from WSJ, so you would expect, assuming equal relative distribution, Japan to get 1/3 of its launch week shipped for the rest of March. That would mean, therefore, that Japan would get another 110k for the rest of March, meaning it will have gotten a first month shipment of 550k (which is nice and round, always a good indicator for correct speculation!
jk
). All of this speculation hinges of course on whether the numbers provided by WSJ are correct and are indicative of first week sales (I don't think it has been mentioned specifically, only that "most of the numbers provided are from the first week of tracking).

So, tell em, GAF: is my speculation possible, unlikely, highly unlikely, impossible or just plain absurd? Just trying to learn and contribute, sales are fascinating but also hard to grasp!
 

LordKano

Member
God Eater 3 PS4-exclusive, doing half what the previous game did FW, killing the IP and we'll never hear about it again in a few years.

My prediction.
 
PS1/PS2/PS3/PS4/PSP/PSV

I don't know if what was shown in the teaser was indicative of the quality of the graphics of GE3. But I didn't think they looked too complex for the Vita to handle.

I'd be glad if they did a Switch version, but I'm leaning towards GE3 being a PS4/PSV game. Either because Namco didn't factor in a port way back then, or the usual pessimism for Nintendo systems. With a Steam version for the West.
 

Fisico

Member
God Eater 3 PS4-exclusive, doing half what the previous game did FW, killing the IP and we'll never hear about it again in a few years.

My prediction.

Bamco just announced the next Digimon on PSV/PS4 so it could go both ways.

The platform choice will also be very interesting from a game design point of view, because if they go PS4 exclusive they will have to clearly change the way the game is played if they want to keep the same sales level (if that's even possible on PS4 that is)
 

zeromcd73

Member
Bamco just announced the next Digimon on PSV/PS4 so it could go both ways.

The platform choice will also be very interesting from a game design point of view, because if they go PS4 exclusive they will have to clearly change the way the game is played if they want to keep the same sales level (if that's even possible on PS4 that is)
60 out of 90 locations are exactly the same as the original game, so it wouldn't make much since not to do it for Vita since they will be heavily reusing the assets and engine. Next Digimon game will be the one to watch.
 

wrowa

Member
Wouldn't a multiplat God Eater suffer from the same problem as a multiplat MH? As in dividing the user base of a game that lives and dies with its multiplayer user base?
 
I don't understand how stock issues could be so problematic that there are only about 50k available. I know it's high relative to other platforms, but ...
 

mao2

Member
Nice. Wonder what was the issue then, there hasn't been such a difference for MC in years I think.
Well, both Famitsu and Dengeki are owned by Kadokawa Corporation. Perhaps they have similar tracking methods and coverage, hence their numbers are closer to each other?
 

LordKano

Member
Wouldn't a multiplat God Eater suffer from the same problem as a multiplat MH? As in dividing the user base of a game that lives and dies with its multiplayer user base?

Either you divide your userbase or you see your sales numbers dropping like mad.
Your move, Bamco.
 

Oregano

Member
Wouldn't a multiplat God Eater suffer from the same problem as a multiplat MH? As in dividing the user base of a game that lives and dies with its multiplayer user base?

Yeah but everyone's assuming Monster Hunter 5 will be multiplatform too.
 
Wouldn't a multiplat God Eater suffer from the same problem as a multiplat MH? As in dividing the user base of a game that lives and dies with its multiplayer user base?

Monster Hunter would suffer in the same way as Call of Duty suffers from being multiplatform.
 

Chris1964

Sales-Age Genius
Wouldn't a multiplat God Eater suffer from the same problem as a multiplat MH? As in dividing the user base of a game that lives and dies with its multiplayer user base?

If Vita is absent it has bigger problems to face. It's a game that lives and dies with Japan.
 

Kyoufu

Member
Wouldn't a multiplat God Eater suffer from the same problem as a multiplat MH? As in dividing the user base of a game that lives and dies with its multiplayer user base?

How exactly is it a problem? It's not like people will have a shortage of players to play with on either platform.
 

mao2

Member
Personally, I don't think dividing the user base would be a huge problem for Monster Hunter, God Eater or other similar games. Most multiplayer games are on various platforms with no cross-play between rival consoles anyway. People will just buy the version their friends or family are getting, and that's it.
 

thefro

Member
PS1/PS2/PS3/PS4/PSP/PSV

I don't know if what was shown in the teaser was indicative of the quality of the graphics of GE3. But I didn't think they looked too complex for the Vita to handle.

I'd be glad if they did a Switch version, but I'm leaning towards GE3 being a PS4/PSV game. Either because Namco didn't factor in a port way back then, or the usual pessimism for Nintendo systems. With a Steam version for the West.

Bandai Namco's had Switch dev kits for a while.


Heck, even if they weren't planning on it, it's pretty clear at this point that it'll be a viable platform in Japan. I doubt it'd be super-hard to port the Vita version over with a resolution bump/AA.

Unless Sony's paying them off or they know about a Vita 2 coming, a Switch port makes logical sense. Especially with MH not announced yet.
 

Oregano

Member
Personally, I don't think dividing the user base would be a huge problem for Monster Hunter, God Eater or other similar games. Most multiplayer games are on various platforms with no cross-play between rival consoles anyway. People will just buy the version their friends or family are getting, and that's it.

It's a bigger problem when a franchise relies on people being able to play locally when out and about. Of course IF those franchises went Switch/PS4 that would be a moot point because only the Switch version would realistically be playable on the go like that.
 

Kanann

Member
Personally, I don't think dividing the user base would be a huge problem for Monster Hunter, God Eater or other similar games. Most multiplayer games are on various platforms with no cross-play between rival consoles anyway. People will just buy the version their friends or family are getting, and that's it.

PS4 and Switch can cross play if developer choose to.

But problem is on game structure like which version has an advantage above another.
 

Chris1964

Sales-Age Genius
The big question is eShop sales as that is the big unknown. Anything less than 100,000 by the end of the financial year would be a disappointment.

A game on 3DS with 1m opening at retail and plenty of supply there is no way it is close to 100k digital.
 
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