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Asia Nikkei: Nintendo shares top Tokyo trading in fiscal 2016

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Nintendo's trading value, the product of share price and trading volume, jumped fourfold in fiscal 2016 to 17.6 trillion yen ($157 billion), rising to the top of Nikkei's charts for the first time since data became available 20 years ago. It beat typical high flyers such as Toyota Motor, which came in second at 13.9 trillion yen, and Mitsubishi UFJ Financial Group, which placed third at 13.2 trillion yen.

"Pokemon Go" jump-started the buying. On July 20, just before the game launched in Japan but two weeks after its U.S. debut, the Kyoto-based company's trading value hit 732.3 billion yen, the highest one-day total ever for a Tokyo stock. The fever continued later in the fiscal year as sales of the company's new console, the Switch, beat expectations. Nintendo shares closed this month at 25,835 yen, up roughly 60% in a year.

Institutional investors looking to outperform stock indexes also joined in. Those without Nintendo in their portfolio "would lose to the market average," said Hiroshi Kato, chief of investment at Chibagin Asset Management.

As for fiscal 2017, virtual-reality stocks will be ones to watch, according to Masamitsu Oki at Fivestar Asset Management. "If [VR's] use keeps expanding beyond video games, companies developing the technology -- such as Sony -- will be the focus of attention," he said.

More at the link: http://asia.nikkei.com/Markets/Equities/Nintendo-shares-top-Tokyo-trading-in-fiscal-2016
 
After all the anti-mobile talk it really is astonishing just how much Pokemon Go turned this company's outlook around. A game that wasn't even their doing.
 
Good on them. They've been making a lot of good choices (at least enough to outweigh the bad ones) lately and it seems to be paying off. It'll be interesting to see how they keep the momentum up.

Inb4 "Nintendo is doomed" jokes or "these figures mean nothing" posts
 
After all the anti-mobile talk it really is astonishing just how much Pokemon Go turned this company's outlook around. A game that wasn't even their doing.

Why contribute this solely to Pokemon Go?
 
Why contribute this solely to Pokemon Go?

Because if Nintendo was shown to even willingly associate itself with anything mobile, the inherent potential for big money is lucrative to shareholders. Pokemon Go was the first instance, even if it wasn't their true instance.
 
After all the anti-mobile talk it really is astonishing just how much Pokemon Go turned this company's outlook around. A game that wasn't even their doing.

Stocks fell once they revealed profit margins from go. This sustained growth can't be attributed to it.
 
So...still to early to decide if the Switch is a success or not? Let me know, GAF.

you mean to tell me the console on month into its lifespan and selling slower than wii u in japan is a breakout hit and largely responsible for this growth in a fiscal year while pokemon go must be forgotten?
ok
switch is a giant success that will top ps2+wii combined for sure/
 
Read it somewhere that one of the factors being Nintendo was one of the more stable business and high cash stock for this Trump and Brexit World
 
I mean, the fact that Nintendo is also one of the rarer large companies that carry no debt helps in garnering a stable investment image.
 
After all the anti-mobile talk it really is astonishing just how much Pokemon Go turned this company's outlook around. A game that wasn't even their doing.

It wasn't like it had nothing to do with them.

Iwata was handling the details of that deal and personally courting Niantic on his deathbed.
 
Stocks fell once they revealed profit margins from go. This sustained growth can't be attributed to it.

This is true, but there's a good case to be made for Pokémon Go being the catalyst for their reversal in public image.

That's not to downplay their efforts since, which have been surprisingly aggressive and effective, but Pokémon Go was perfectly timed to condition consumers for Mario Run and Switch alike. It feels like an operation years in the making, and it probably was. Extremely well-played hand all round.
 
you mean to tell me the console on month into its lifespan and selling slower than wii u in japan is a breakout hit and largely responsible for this growth in a fiscal year while pokemon go must be forgotten?
ok
switch is a giant success that will top ps2+wii combined for sure/

Lmao, the Wii U released in the holidays, and the Switch was, and still is, heavily supply constrained. Not even a valid comparison, but you can play this game by yourself, if you want.
 
you mean to tell me the console on month into its lifespan and selling slower than wii u in japan is a breakout hit and largely responsible for this growth in a fiscal year while pokemon go must be forgotten?
ok
switch is a giant success that will top ps2+wii combined for sure/

While I won't contest that Switch sales are not mainly responsible for this growth, the sales narrative you are crafting for the Switch in Japan is misleading. You and I both know that the Wii U launched during the holiday season, so direct sales comparisons are disingenuous. Even so, Switch sold more than the Wii U in its opening week.

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It is also outpacing the PS4, which launched after the holiday period as well.
 
While I won't contest that Switch sales are not mainly responsible for this growth, the sales narrative you are crafting for the Switch in Japan is misleading. You and I both know that the Wii U launched during the holiday season, so direct sales comparisons are disingenuous. Even so, Switch sold more than the Wii U in its opening week.

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It is also outpacing the PS4, which launched after the holiday period as well.
Didint know it w add outpacing ps4, that must be really when opening for Japanese devs
 
While I won't contest that Switch sales are not mainly responsible for this growth, the sales narrative you are crafting for the Switch in Japan is misleading. You and I both know that the Wii U launched during the holiday season, so direct sales comparisons are disingenuous. Even so, Switch sold more than the Wii U in its opening week.

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It is also outpacing the PS4, which launched after the holiday period as well.

That week 4 is magic

Real good sign that they're onto a cross over hit IMO
 
This is true, but there's a good case to be made for Pokémon Go being the catalyst for their reversal in public image.

That's not to downplay their efforts since, which have been surprisingly aggressive and effective, but Pokémon Go was perfectly timed to condition consumers for Mario Run and Switch alike. It feels like an operation years in the making, and it probably was. Extremely well-played hand all round.

Oh certainly no doubt about that.
 
After all the anti-mobile talk it really is astonishing just how much Pokemon Go turned this company's outlook around. A game that wasn't even their doing.

It's almost like Nintendo didn't announce their mobile partnership with DeNA a year before Pokemon Go became a phenomenon.

This is true, but there's a good case to be made for Pokémon Go being the catalyst for their reversal in public image.

That's not to downplay their efforts since, which have been surprisingly aggressive and effective, but Pokémon Go was perfectly timed to condition consumers for Mario Run and Switch alike. It feels like an operation years in the making, and it probably was. Extremely well-played hand all round.

Pokemon Go as a game was lightning in a bottle that was a culmination of many things coming together to create a perfect storm, but it didn't reverse a public image for Nintendo, except maybe on Neogaf and gaming circles that think Nintendo is irrelevant because the Wii U didn't sell. Pokemon Go's success just reinforced what savvy industry observers and fans had known for decades: Nintendo IP is way more valuable than slumping console sales suggest. It just takes Pokemon Go becoming a global phenomenon for some people to grasp that. Mario was at the Rio 2016 Summer Olympics closing ceremony and that had nothing to do with the success of Go and everything to do with Mario being an icon as well Nintendo's relevance as a company to Japan.

This is just another case of Nintendo shaking off the rust and firing on all cylinders, then people trying to attribute their success to luck or fads.
 
While I won't contest that Switch sales are not mainly responsible for this growth, the sales narrative you are crafting for the Switch in Japan is misleading. You and I both know that the Wii U launched during the holiday season, so direct sales comparisons are disingenuous. Even so, Switch sold more than the Wii U in its opening week.

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It is also outpacing the PS4, which launched after the holiday period as well.
That increase is absolutely remarkable.
 
The balance between ironic sarcasm posting and real posts is funny.

I look forward to the absolutely sickening flood of shitposts in a thread should Nintendo ever go third party.
 
Their mobile strategy seems to be working just well. Investors are happy, and the fan base don't feel neglected/betrayed, either.

Kind of sad that Iwata didn't live long enough to see this day; he initiated the strategy after all.
 
Why contribute this solely to Pokemon Go?

This is Nintendo's stock price over the last 12 months:
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I see one enormous jump and one small jump.

The enormous jump is from July 7th to July 18th. Pokemon Go released on July 6th. (Incidentally, the enormous drop afterwards is from when Nintendo confirmed they owned almost none of Pokemon Go and investors realized this)

The little jump is on September 7th. The iPhone event where Super Mario Run was announced was on September 7th.

Other than these two events there are essentially no trends in movement up or down or other remarkable movements at all. What factors do you attribute the growth to?
 
Pokemon Go's success just reinforced what savvy industry observers and fans had known for decades: Nintendo IP is way more valuable than slumping console sales suggest.

I absolutely agree, but Wii U dealt Nintendo a blow regarding public perception they were struggling to repair, and Go was the mother of all band-aids. Almost overnight, people went from 'what the hell is a Wii U' to taking genuine interest in Nintendo IPs and products once again.

They're the forefather of the console industry as we know it and always will be, their characters iconic and timeless, but folks just needed a nudge to be reminded of that.
 
This is Nintendo's stock price over the last 12 months:
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I see one enormous jump and one small jump.

The enormous jump is from July 7th to July 18th. Pokemon Go released on July 6th. (Incidentally, the enormous drop afterwards is from when Nintendo confirmed they owned almost none of Pokemon Go)

The little jump is on September 7th. The iPhone event where Super Mario Run was announced was on September 7th.

What factors do you attribute the growth to?

I attribute the growth to the outlook and direction of the company. Which encompasses mobile strategy as well as their plans for consoles going forward.

It is always shortsighted to attribute growth to a sole factor.
 
Anyone betting against a company with a super clean balance sheet, loads of cash, and all the properties Nintendo has and is starting to milk in different directions is in for quite a surprise, short of a Donald crash of the market for dumb reasons.

Switch is also ahead of my own expectations just in terms of mind share and market positioning, mostly due to Zelda and the clean and modern hardware Nintendo released. Short of failing like the Wii U, though, I didn't really care how Switch did as an investor, because I think there are more important things going on in the company.
 
I need Pachter to make sense of all this. Get Pachter on the phone.

Nintendo experienced the best growth on the Tokyo stock exchange for fiscal 2016.

The more that investors put money into Nintendo's stock, the more capital Nintendo gets which allows Nintendo to spend that money on things.
 
Well thats it guys. Nintendo going 3rd party confirmed. The Switch was such a colossal failure being supply constrained and all.
sarcasm FTW
. Maybe GAF is right.
 
So...still to early to decide if the Switch is a success or not? Let me know, GAF.
Well...It kinda a bit too early is isn't it? Lets's wait till it has been on the market for more than a year. Although it doesn't seem like the system will end up like the Wii U.
 
So Switch is doing alright/good in Japan?

That's good to hear. I really like the system, wasn't going to get one till Mario, but got one as a gift from my sisters as a late birthday gift.
 
Nintendo has been making mostly good decisions for the past two years.

They tried to end Wii U on an upbeat with a slew of high quality games like Bayonetta 2, Super Smash Bros, Super Mario Maker, and of course Breath of the Wild. Pokemon Go and Super Mario Run reached out to a massive net of lapsed gamers, nostalgic gamers, new kids/teens, etc., the NES Classic REALLY grabbing nostalgia this past holiday season, and the Nintendo Switch being an appealing product (so far anyway!) means Nintendo is on an upswing. Also throw amiibo in there somewhere.
 
What other mobile games do they have this year aside from Animal Crossing?

They are planning to release three mobile games next FY besides Animal Crossing.

Maybe they'll say something about it in the next financial​ briefing.
 
Ah the power of mobile. I bet anything they make more money with mobile than the Switch if the gave each an equal amount of resources.
 
Amazing news! They have been doing great with the apps and Switch promotion, so it's good to hear that the market responded to that.

With the end of the Fiscal year, when will be the investors's meeting? End of April I believe? I would like to hear their take on Switch's launch.
 
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