Again, just because it focuses more on combat and less on collectable doesn't make it any less of a platformer.
Skill-based platforming comes into play in most every level of the game (except maybe the first level).
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Yooka-Laylee- Review Thread
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Again, just because it focuses more on combat and less on collectable doesn't make it any less of a platformer.
Skill-based platforming comes into play in most every level of the game (except maybe the first level).
ScientificPizza
Banned
No, buy Snake Pass if you want more 3D Platformers
In order to get the rareware coin you need 15 banana medals, which are acquired by collecting 75 out of a kong's 100 possible bananas in the world.
In order to uncover KRool's hide out, you need eight boss keys.
Completing Hideout Helm without blueprints means you have to perform it with zero room for error in ten minutes, and I dont believe is the intended way to complete the level. Lets be fair and say you only "need" 10 blueprints which bumps the timer up to 20 minutes for a sporting chance.
I dont know if theres a route through Donkey Kong 64 that allows you to collect 100 golden bananas without spending money on new moves and equipment, which brings a nebulous number of coins into the mix as required.
man this threads got all the hits
Neolombax
Member
Games that have reviews this divisive always catch my attention. I usually end up buying them, justifying the purchase by the things that it does right, and go into forums discussing about it.
From the review footage, it seems that the game looks way better than I remember it to be? Maybe that was an early build I was seeing earlier, but it was a pleasant surprise. Mechanics wise, plays out to be similar to any third person adventure game during the PS2 days. Looks fun, with the camera spazzing out and all.
From the review footage, it seems that the game looks way better than I remember it to be? Maybe that was an early build I was seeing earlier, but it was a pleasant surprise. Mechanics wise, plays out to be similar to any third person adventure game during the PS2 days. Looks fun, with the camera spazzing out and all.
Honestly, the best parts of DK64 were the boss fights, and when I originally played it they felt like very unique, very interesting encounters that were worth collecting a lot of guff to get.
But having played through the game and seeing all of them, the carrot at the end of the mile-long stick just isn't worth it anymore. I look at the road towards the cool boss fights and just can't walk down that path again.
its too much
But having played through the game and seeing all of them, the carrot at the end of the mile-long stick just isn't worth it anymore. I look at the road towards the cool boss fights and just can't walk down that path again.
its too much
backflip10019
Member
Guess I'll be waiting for a sale on this. Was really hoping it would be great. :/
Yeah, that's pretty much what I'm hoping for. It should be fun for a lark on the Switch.
Hopefully the Switch version doesn't end up too rough. I got Snake Pass on the Switch and I'm diggin it.
Don't think it's set in stone yet.
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
When is the Switch release date?
It has nothing to do with age, games today wish they are as good as A Link to the Past and Super Metroid on the SNES, no qualifier whatsoever. Not even the graphics, everything is exactly how I want my video games right now, today, in this moment. Absolutely nothing outdated about them. They are perfect. The Wonderful 101 and Platinum games in general captured the whimsical essence of Rare games while also having that distinct Japanese style & game feel about them which I love.
These are the games that carry on the Rare spirit, and it works amazingly well for me. I love the way the narrator says "These powered exoskeletons' ultra-dense bio-metallic fibers grant super strength" in his glorious, over the top voice. The complete and utter nonsense delivered with a straight face is just brilliant. That's what I loved about MGS cutscenes up to 4 as well, nowadays games (and movies) tone down on this style in favor of portraying a more "gritty" tone that has as much personality and charm as an asphalt road. How can you release a new MGS title without Hayter's funny and overacted voice?? The new Power Rangers did the same thing, it's a typical Hollywood Serious Business movie, and Uncharted also took a darker direction after the success of TLoU. Can someone explain what's going on because I don't get it. I wanted Yooka-Laylee to be the game that brought back all the goofy randomness to 2017, I guess not?
Tom Nook Sawyer
Member
That's more because Mario 64 was a mediocre port with garbage controls and questionable "enhancements"
Snake simulator where you go through levels collecting stuff. Controls are very fun to master.
My dude they cant go more than four minutes without stopping for comic relief in the more serious first two acts, and the third act revolves around
having to prevent Rita Repulsa from reaching Krispy Kreme
daTRUballin
Member
Snake Rattle N Roll spiritual successor? Lol
Especially with Wise doing the soundtrack and all....
What exactly do you feel is toned down? The first NPC you meet is a trouser snake. The main villain's sidekick is a duck in a bubblegum machine. One of your abilities is a fart bubble that lets you walk underwater. There's plenty of goofy randomness.
I'm basing the comment on Chris Stuckmann's review of the movie, he says there is a clash of two styles. Presumably they tried to find a compromise between living up to its heritage while also living up to audience expectations. I'm tired of this shit.
Finally the spiritual successor to snake is here!
Wait, it also has mixed reviews? This is why we can't have nice things
Tarextherex
Banned
I'm not even talking about the amount of them, I'm talking about how you get them. So far every video of Yooka Laylee featured very basic lock and key design in levels that are only definable by their setting, plus random minigames. That's why DK64 wasn't as good as Banjo, the level design. Does Yooka Laylee has anything even close to something like Click Clock Wood? All I see is jungle level, ice level, casino level. The ice level in Banjo had a bunch of christmas themed elements, a snowman to climb in the middle and it introduced the attacking while flying ability. You had very involved tasks such as hitting the annoying snowmen that threw snowballs at you, saving the christmas lights so you can climb the three, giving presents to a polar bear family, do sled racing, turn into a walrus to go into ice water/hang out with your boy Wooza. What does the Yooka ice level have aside from merely having an ice theme? Even DK64 had some more involved moments that weren't simply playing a random minigame that was locked behind a gate that you needed a specific Kong to unlock, look at Fungi Forest with its day/night mechanic and distinct areas. I'm not seeing any of that in Yooka Laylee
Which version sounds better? You tell me
Yooka-Laylee Main Theme
Banjo-Kazooie Main Title
It's slower and less catchy. Everything about YK is similar but for some reason it feels off, I don't like it.
manfestival
Member
I like how this thread started super optimistic and then became... uh the word escapes me but yeah... became disappointment
ScientificPizza
Banned
Every review thread is
It's really odd, because there's some decent reviews in the OP so I'm surprised there's this much disappointment.
I really hope they get a physical release sorted out soon. Reading so much about YL as well as comparisons to Snake Pass being brought up, I keep getting reminded how fun it looks.
N64 faded into history and its 3D platformers faded with it.
We've had four Nintendo consoles since, and if they haven't come back there's got to be a reason.
I can't really say yet since I haven't played the game nor do I want to spoil too much of it for myself in advance, but from what I've seen there are some pretty inspired mechanics like
using a giant cloud at the top of the jungle world to fill/freeze/drain the rivers below, and an "icymetric" palace in the second world that plays like Knight Lore.
I don't know what that has to do with your complaint. You specifically called the game "too serious in tone and atmosphere" and even from the song you linked that's clearly not true. I can understand being disappointed that you don't like it as much as Banjo but it certainly has nothing to do with the game lacking silliness.
daTRUballin
Member
Rare stopped making them after the N64. That's why.
Theanine3D
Member
Reviews be damned, I still can't wait to play this.
The fact that some of the reviews are complaining about "goofy dialog" just gives me more reason to ignore them.
The fact that some of the reviews are complaining about "goofy dialog" just gives me more reason to ignore them.
TheDinoman
Member
To be fair, a lot of that has to do with the fact that the main provider of them (Rare) ended up being sold to Microsoft. Nintendo themselves never really did many 3D platformers outside of Mario.
balladofwindfishes
Member
Yea, I think Grant is wasted if they don't let him do big booming, catchy soundtracks that are almost a set piece in the stage itself. Could something like this be made for Yooka-Laylee I think is a question that might not be answered "yes" from what I've heard. Freezeezy's theme is as much of the stage as the giant snowman and Boggy. Maybe after I play the game, it'll be different, but that ice mountain music was not... at all what I expected for an ice level from Grant Kirkhope, who brought up Freezeezy peak, which is still my de-facto "snow theme" in my head because of how absolutely perfect the song is for the stage.
I might not have liked Nuts and Bolts at all, but I rank the music as some of the strongest in the entire series. He really brought his A game to that game. I mean that transition into Hailfire Peaks Colosseum, woo baby.
One thing I really, really, REALLY miss from the old N64 days of Grant is when he used to use background sounds as a bit of percussion. Due to not having layers to actually make the sounds within the map, they became part of the song, probably best heard with the boat horns on Rusty Bucket, but every stage has it, from the subtle bubbles of Bubblegloop Swamp, to the bees in Clickclock Woods. Even shifting sand, dinosaur roars and simple drips become another instrument in the song. And yet when they no longer needed to do that due to having as much space as they needed for sound effects, it was never tried again
I mean, listen how the dinosaur sounds you likely never even noticed follow the beat and act as percussion, while still serving as ambient noises. I always found that fascinating as a kid how they were worked into the song. And then after DK64, it was never tried again because there was no necessity to do so.
Oh well.
Ninja Scooter
Member
Their aesthetic fell out of favor in a world of Gears of War/Halo/Call of Duty and in terms of gameplay and their place in the market they evolved into the modern open world game. They scratched that same kind of itch for people.
daTRUballin
Member
Yea, I think Grant is wasted if they don't let him do big booming, catchy soundtracks that are almost a set piece in the stage itself. Could something like this be made for Yooka-Laylee I think is a question that might not be answered "yes" from what I've heard. Freezeezy's theme is as much of the stage as the giant snowman and Boggy. Maybe after I play the game, it'll be different, but that ice mountain music was not... at all what I expected for an ice level from Grant Kirkhope, who brought up Freezeezy peak, which is still my de-facto "snow theme" in my head because of how absolutely perfect the song is for the stage.
I might not have liked Nuts and Bolts at all, but I rank the music as some of the strongest in the entire series. He really brought his A game to that game. I mean that transition into Hailfire Peaks Colosseum, woo baby.
One thing I really, really, REALLY miss from the old N64 days of Grant is when he used to use background sounds as a bit of percussion. Due to not having layers to actually make the sounds within the map, they became part of the song, probably best heard with the boat horns on Rusty Bucket, but every stage has it, from the subtle bubbles of Bubblegloop Swamp, to the bees in Clickclock Woods. Even shifting sand, dinosaur roars and simple drips become another instrument in the song. And yet when they no longer needed to do that due to having as much space as they needed for sound effects, it was never tried again
I mean, listen how the dinosaur sounds you likely never even noticed follow the beat and act as percussion, while still serving as ambient noises. I always found that fascinating as a kid how they were worked into the song. And then after DK64, it was never tried again because there was no necessity to do so.
Oh well.
The Jiggoseum theme wasn't by Grant. It was by Robin Beanland. At least I'm pretty sure....
balladofwindfishes
Member
Really? What's Beanland up to now?
TheDinoman
Member
Composing Sea of Thieves, I believe.
Some awesome SoT music.
edit: but of course pirate shanties aren't REALLY at their best unless they're being performed LIVE
Secret Fawful
Member
Honestly, the game sounds exactly like what I wanted. I'm a bit sad to hear some criticism of the bosses, but I already knew I'd love this game without reviews. The negative reviews just don't bother me, because I knew this game wouldn't be for everyone.
daTRUballin
Member
Yeah. He's still at Rare and is composing the OST for Sea of Thieves. He seems to be the only composer from the old days left at Rare, if not the only composer left at all.
To add, subjective reviews do have value, if you trust the person giving the review. For example, Gamexplain gave a mostly subjective review, but I listened to them since I trust them on a level where even if I don't agree with their opinions I can at least see where they're coming from and see it as a valid criticism. IGN used to have the same level of trust from me, until around the middle of the Wii era. Now, I don't trust anything they say.
With that said having word salad like 'outdated gameplay' means nothing to me unless you explain what is outdated and how it is outdated. A lot of reviews tend to give out these broad statements and don't explain why they're talking about. Which is why in general I don't look at game reviews anymore and just used more own personal experiences and wants to judged if a game is worth playing. The only real exceptions are if I hear a game getting great word of mouth, which is how I ended up getting Bayonatte.
The heck am I even reading
I really don't know what to think really.
I mean, I have no feelings for Banjo nor have I ever owned an N64 so I didn't backed the game as a result. I was more of a PlayStation guy so I mostly grew up with the likes of Crash, Spyro and later stuff like Ratchet. But the previews of Yooka made me cautious with the emptiness and such.
I love the genre regardless so it's probably best for me to try it out first before judging it I suppose.
I mean, I have no feelings for Banjo nor have I ever owned an N64 so I didn't backed the game as a result. I was more of a PlayStation guy so I mostly grew up with the likes of Crash, Spyro and later stuff like Ratchet. But the previews of Yooka made me cautious with the emptiness and such.
I love the genre regardless so it's probably best for me to try it out first before judging it I suppose.
I REALLY hope that Jim Sterling isn't fond of Shenmue 3 and Super Mario Odyssey when time comes.
The meltdowns his reviews cause are incredible.
It's crazy how people don't realize that some people can have differenting opinions, even over "critical darlings".
For example, I feel that BloodBourne was 7/10 game at best, and could imagine giving it a 6/10. Super Mario 3D World is a 6.5/10 game for me. Shadows of Mordor put me to sleep and I would at most give that game like a 4.5. Street Fighter V is basically a 4/10 game and the actual combat is where it lacks the most.
People have different opinions.
The meltdowns his reviews cause are incredible.
It's crazy how people don't realize that some people can have differenting opinions, even over "critical darlings".
For example, I feel that BloodBourne was 7/10 game at best, and could imagine giving it a 6/10. Super Mario 3D World is a 6.5/10 game for me. Shadows of Mordor put me to sleep and I would at most give that game like a 4.5. Street Fighter V is basically a 4/10 game and the actual combat is where it lacks the most.
People have different opinions.
MegaManTrigger
Banned
If that's the price we pay for more of these hilarious over the top reactions from people, then absolutely.
Snipperclips and Super Bomberman R are Unity games.
If there's hope for the Switch port it's that it's being handled in house with assistance from Nintendo, whereas the other console versions were outsourced.