No, not true. Although judging this and your follow up posts you won't be swayed otherwise. I'm not a Witness so I can't speak for their religion but not all religions began as a cult.It began as a cult, as all religions do.
No, not true. Although judging this and your follow up posts you won't be swayed otherwise. I'm not a Witness so I can't speak for their religion but not all religions began as a cult.
I'm done with the issue. I'll just say this isn't true and leave.
You do pay a tithe, just in a different way.
https://jwvictims.org/2015/06/16/jehovahs-witnesses-outright-lie-in-saying-that-they-dont-petition-for-support/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHGRs2bcybs
And you do abstain from normal human relations and social interactions. I see you're avoiding discussing the conference last year, which was specifically about this issue.
No not avoiding it, I was working and typing. You know being part of society and working closely with people who aren't witnesses
Donations vs tithing regardless of how you want to paint it is totally different. Jesus didn't have a problem with donations either.
Since you had multiple points and you said the "conference" is about this issue, what issue are you saying?
Sorry if my responses are delayed or possibly missing what you want. I am working on a machine where I don't have access to my phone for periods of time.
Specifically ostracising family members who have left the church.
I don't recall that being covered but I have kids and easily could have missed it while taking care of them.
Again I can only speak to my experiences, I am baptised but I left, so to say, for a while. Granted I wasn't living what would be considered an immoral life. My family didn't cut me off but just encouraged me to come back. We still got together etc. I aired very real doubts to them and even some elders. Talked a lot with a lot of people. Came to my conclusion and here I am.
I will have to go back and see what was covered last year but I don't recall details about that. Maybe someone else would be able to answer that more promptly.
I thought they don't support any politicians, why would they up and support a demagogue from Germany? Sounds fishy.
Yeah, it's like flipping a coin isn't it? Maybe they'll survive, maybe they'll die. What's even the point? What's even the point in trying to get bloodfusionless surgeries? Hell, what's the point in surgeries at all? Perhaps they'll survive or perhaps they'll die.perhaps, or perhaps they will die even with a transfusion. I think it's in everyone's best interest that medicine explore this area.
Isn't Russian Orthodoxy the de facto state religion? Maybe they don't like the competition.
Well, the Jehovah witnesses in the area I live in are anti vaccines. I assumed that all Jehovah witnesses share their beliefs. I apologise.
Looks like the Russian government wasn't able to prove that our brothers and sisters in Russia are actually extremist. The government even admitted to not having any actual literature of ours that show that we are extremist.
The judge even seem to question the gov't on why they believe JWs are extremist. And the lawyers that the JWs had pointed out that the Forensic Center within the Russian gov't don't believe that we are extremist. The Russian lawyers then stated that they didn't even investigate why the Forensic Center of the gov't disagreed with the Ministry of Justice (the part that's trying to ban JWs and liquidate all of the branches in Russia) part of govt.
They put a pause on the hearing and will continue tomorrow.
Kinda surprised that there might actually be legitimate checks and balances in the Russian government
Kinda surprised that there might actually be legitimate checks and balances in the Russian government
I can't... I mean it's a shitty country on numerous issues but do you think they decide legal issues by public shaming?
Kinda surprised that there might actually be legitimate checks and balances in the Russian government
My assumption was that the judiciary was basically a rubber stamp that approved of Putin's policies and since this came from the Ministry of Justice that this was a policy that Putin wants implemented, or at least supports.
That assumption is largely based on news articles talking about the degradation of the rule of law in Russia and Russia basically being an authoritarian state at the moment.
The great tribulation has begun.
Interesting how they predict religion being destroyed by the government.
JW's have some messed up practices. Such as:
- Preying on the elderly to get the church put in wills, so they can inherit their property.
- Not paying a living wage to volunteers and keeping them reliant on housing and square meals so they can't escape from it.
- Not providing pensions or any sort of social care for a lifetime of dedication, basically discarding people when they've retired.
- Mapping out the local area and logging when people get back from work.
Note: this comes from my friend, who is an 'apostate' in their words. Could see how this would fall into 'cult' myself, seeing as they accumulate property and abuse the labour of their followers (akin to Scientology), but wouldn't label them as extremists.
Not really. That's standard MO for most religious groups.