th3sicknness
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All I know is it is portable. And to me it is worth the price of admission.
Yes, but they want it, so it's not fair.Why do people want "upgrade discount"? Isn't this a new release on a totally different console?
You aren't reading the posts, then.
If you didn't own Mario Kart 8 for Wii U, the Deluxe version is a fantastic price.
As someone who paid $60 + $20 for the DLC though, it is not. The only new meaningful addition is the Battle Mode. Would you pay $60 for that? I already played the vanilla game for hundreds of hours. I still have my Wii U set up, I could play it right now.
So I'm not going to buy the game, and based on this thread there are many more core Nintendo fans who also feel this way. These are lost sales for Nintendo. If they were decent and offered a discount then they'd not only sell more, but it would be a nice gesture to the people who supported the Wii U which was killed early and had pretty bad support overall.
Read the thread before going on a rant while your wallet drops hundred dollar bills - it has been repeatedly stated that $60 is a fair MSRP.
That isn't necessarily the case for people who have the original and people aren't offered an alternative path to get the main additions like battle mode dlc.
You aren't reading the posts, then.
If you didn't own Mario Kart 8 for Wii U, the Deluxe version is a fantastic price.
As someone who paid $60 + $20 for the DLC though, it is not. The only new meaningful addition is the Battle Mode. Would you pay $60 for that? I already played the vanilla game for hundreds of hours. I still have my Wii U set up, I could play it right now.
So I'm not going to buy the game, and based on this thread there are many more core Nintendo fans who also feel this way. These are lost sales for Nintendo. If they were decent and offered a discount then they'd not only sell more, but it would be a nice gesture to the people who supported the Wii U which was killed early and had pretty bad support overall.
You can sell your WiiU MK8 disc if you want, and then pretend its a "discount".Or, hey, they could offer a discount to Wii U owners (the people who supported their failed console) who buy the Switch version, and get more sales overall.
This exactly. I don't know why people don't get it. The price is absolutely fair to anybody who didn't drop 80 on it yet. I don't care if they do a full-price rerelease, the value is still great. But not if I already own 90% of what they're selling. All I want is the remaining 10%. Why would I pay 60 for just that when they previously were able to offer DLC for the base game as well? The Wii U being "dead" is not an excuse. Their new console only released a month ago. Look at other publishers supporting their last gen versions of games with DLC for much longer.
It's not like anyone is asking for a free upgrade. We want to pay, lol.
More sales is not the same thing as more profit for 1. And 2, while it would be nice, the amount of people who will not buy this game purely because they own the WiiU version is probably not worth the hassle to them.
The game is gonna sell for the next 5 years. Why take an early hit?
Also, I can point to multiple instances, say on Steam, where a dev/pub gave free upgrades to special or definitive editions for previous owners. It didn't hurt them financially and it only served to engender the customers to their brand more. I view THQ Nordic and Bethesda and Larian studios a lot higher than I did before due to these kinds of moves and I am now more likely to support them going forward because, I currently have the feeling they got my back as a customer.
It's a bit of a stretch calling it an all new release, but it's in line with a game of the year addition with all the DLC + extras, $60 isn't unreasonable, especially how nintendo generally don't drop prices on older stuff.
I traded my mario kart 8 for wii-u in when this was revealed, between that and gcu, the game isn't breaking the bank. It's a better looking, better performing version with all the extras that I can take on the go. Would I like to pay less for it? Of course. Do I expect to? No.
Let me ask you something, on what console do you want this "10%"?
People wanting "upgrade discounts" are legitimately nuts, and are prime examples of the entitlement that exists solely in the videogame industry. Book to Kindle, DVD to Blu-ray, cassette to CD, futon to couch, or any other number of format changes, none of them offer something like that.
You paid for a product. This is another product. That's really the long and short of it.
Yet again someone who isn't actually reading the posts.People wanting "upgrade discounts" are legitimately nuts, and are prime examples of the entitlement that exists solely in the videogame industry. Book to Kindle, DVD to Blu-ray, cassette to CD, futon to couch, or any other number of format changes, none of them offer something like that.
You paid for a product. This is another product. That's really the long and short of it.
Yet again someone who isn't actually reading the posts.
Why would someone who paid $80 for the game and DLC pay an additional $60 for the Battle Mode? It isn't about being entitled to anything. It isn't about feeling Nintendo owes us. It's about there being next to no incentive for people who aren't Nintendo faithful to rebuy the game.
If you don't want it don't buy it, Nintendo obviously doesn't care about this niche you complainers are making. If the mk8 servers were getting shut down when Deluxe releases you'd have a point, but the game will be functional for at least another couple years if the Wii server life is anything to go buy. If you want the new one with the new content, open your wallet.Yet again someone who isn't actually reading the posts.
Why would someone who paid $80 for the game and DLC pay an additional $60 for the Battle Mode? It isn't about being entitled to anything. It isn't about feeling Nintendo owes us. It's about there being next to no incentive for people who aren't Nintendo faithful to rebuy the game.
Wii U.
As I said before, I'm talking about offering this stuff as DLC, as they did before. But then people said something about "dead console" or just ignored it and kept saying "but it's a new release on a new platform".
For those of you who bought the game at full price for the Wii U, remember that you were probably one of the ones who got a second game out of it.
Additionally, it includes the DLC, new battle mode and extra characters- An $80 value for $60. Yeah, it's a 3 year old game, but so what?
I don't see how questioning the price is a thing.
Because not all decisions need to be or should be made completely on the axis of profit or profit+x.
As well no one is arguing Msrp should be lower, most if not all agree that $60 is fair for the package but it wouldn't hurt them to offer a digital upgrade path at a discount for previous owners. It only engenders good will.
The reason people begrudgingly buy this a second time is because they don't expect Nintendo to do them a solid so they suck it up.
I get it, a lot you guys will get your $60 worth again out of it. I probably could get my value out of it, but I try not to support these practices.
I personally do not believe it to be a viable long term business practice. It eventually catches up to companies when people start feeling nickel and dimed over and over.
Also, I can point to multiple instances, say on Steam, where a dev/pub gave free upgrades to special or definitive editions for previous owners. It didn't hurt them financially and it only served to engender the customers to their brand more. I view THQ Nordic and Bethesda and Larian studios a lot higher than I did before due to these kinds of moves and I am now more likely to support them going forward because, I currently have the feeling they got my back as a customer.
Yet again someone who isn't actually reading the posts.
Why would someone who paid $80 for the game and DLC pay an additional $60 for the Battle Mode? It isn't about being entitled to anything. It isn't about feeling Nintendo owes us. It's about there being next to no incentive for people who aren't Nintendo faithful to rebuy the game.
And you can say 'well don't buy it'. And I won't. But I feel that is profit on the table for Nintendo, not to mention it's just shitty considering the people who bought the Wii U were already screwed over by it being killed off early and having shitty support. It would be a good thing PR wise for Nintendo to do, and several people have given examples of other companies who do this in the damn thread. It isn't unheard of.
They dont need the good will
For those of you who bought the game at full price for the Wii U, remember that you were probably one of the ones who got a second game out of it.
Additionally, it includes the DLC, new battle mode and extra characters- An $80 value for $60. Yeah, it's a 3 year old game, but so what?
I don't see how questioning the price is a thing.
Because people were so satisfied with the WiiU?
Like they were with the Wii?
They don't need customers to think they have good business practices when they're putting out a new console to sell?
This could literally apply to any product that has some sort of upgrade and is reintroduced to an expanded audience.
People are acting like Nintendo deserves to give them something, which they don't. And those of us who will support this game new at the price point aren't supporting terrible business practices. I see value in what they're offering and I'll pay for it.
Zelda BotW just had a 102% tie ratio for Nintendo Switch. You are representing a vocal minority of people that are upset that Nintendo is charging 60 dollars for this game.
Yet again someone who isn't actually reading the posts.
Why would someone who paid $80 for the game and DLC pay an additional $60 for the Battle Mode? It isn't about being entitled to anything. It isn't about feeling Nintendo owes us. It's about there being next to no incentive for people who aren't Nintendo faithful to rebuy the game.
And you can say 'well don't buy it'. And I won't. But I feel that is profit on the table for Nintendo, not to mention it's just shitty considering the people who bought the Wii U were already screwed over by it being killed off early and having shitty support. It would be a good thing PR wise for Nintendo to do, and several people have given examples of other companies who do this in the damn thread. It isn't unheard of.
Yet again someone who isn't actually reading the posts.
Why would someone who paid $80 for the game and DLC pay an additional $60 for the Battle Mode? It isn't about being entitled to anything. It isn't about feeling Nintendo owes us. It's about there being next to no incentive for people who aren't Nintendo faithful to rebuy the game.
And you can say 'well don't buy it'. And I won't. But I feel that is profit on the table for Nintendo, not to mention it's just shitty considering the people who bought the Wii U were already screwed over by it being killed off early and having shitty support. It would be a good thing PR wise for Nintendo to do, and several people have given examples of other companies who do this in the damn thread. It isn't unheard of.
Let's put this in to perspective: this happens when a remaster is coming out for consoles as well, skyrim, divinity, etc,while the console versions that release at the same time are full price. So there's no actual precedent on consoles, just Nintendo, do this, cause i want it.Also, I can point to multiple instances, say on Steam, where a dev/pub gave free upgrades to special or definitive editions for previous owners.
Multiple people in this thread have argued for some kind of discount or incentive based on their "supporting" Nintendo or Nintendo needing to show consumer loyalty, which is definitely an argument based on a feeling of entitlement. So perhaps you should be reading the posts in this thread.
I don't see a connection between the two.
Because people were so satisfied with the WiiU?
Like they were with the Wii?
They don't need customers to think they have good business practices when they're putting out a new console to sell?
Yet again someone who isn't actually reading the posts.
Why would someone who paid $80 for the game and DLC pay an additional $60 for the Battle Mode? It isn't about being entitled to anything. It isn't about feeling Nintendo owes us. It's about there being next to no incentive for people who aren't Nintendo faithful to rebuy the game.
And you can say 'well don't buy it'. And I won't. But I feel that is profit on the table for Nintendo, not to mention it's just shitty considering the people who bought the Wii U were already screwed over by it being killed off early and having shitty support. It would be a good thing PR wise for Nintendo to do, and several people have given examples of other companies who do this in the damn thread. It isn't unheard of.
Yet again someone who isn't actually reading the posts.
Why would someone who paid $80 for the game and DLC pay an additional $60 for the Battle Mode? It isn't about being entitled to anything. It isn't about feeling Nintendo owes us. It's about there being next to no incentive for people who aren't Nintendo faithful to rebuy the game.
And you can say 'well don't buy it'. And I won't. But I feel that is profit on the table for Nintendo, not to mention it's just shitty considering the people who bought the Wii U were already screwed over by it being killed off early and having shitty support. It would be a good thing PR wise for Nintendo to do, and several people have given examples of other companies who do this in the damn thread. It isn't unheard of.
They don't owe Wii U owners anything. It has new content and all the DLC. The Wii U version of MK8 is still $50 I believe.
There is this group called "People who didn't own a Wii U or didn't own MK8" that could buy the game as well, you know? You guys seem to assume people double dipping are the only, or even the primary, targeted group for this game
I don't know what to tell you, other than this line of thinking really only exists in videogames.
Terminator 2 came out like 4 times on DVD, each with a supposed "better transfer" or "more special features". I'm sure that angered a small subset of people who bought the first "worst" version, but I'm willing to bet 98% of people didn't give a shit.
I don't really know how or why games are different in this respect. It's probably because, as you mentioned, there have been cases where publishers have had upgrade programs in instances like these, and it created a sense of "Hey, yeah! We should totally be getting newer versions at a discount!" But that should really be seen as an exception, not the rule.
And out of curiosity, how did the Wii U version have shitty support? The track count was bumped up by 50% for less than $15 lol. That's more support than literally any other Mario Kart in history has ever received.
Again, I don't want to sound patronizing to people here, but this really screams of a massive sense of entitlement.
They absolutely do owe Wii U owners. Imagine just how much further submerged in sewage their financials would have been without the relatively few whose purchases at least threw that ill-conceived, overpriced slab of woefully underpowered tech a half-inflated life preserver.
They absolutely do owe Wii U owners. Imagine just how much further submerged in sewage their financials would have been without the relatively few whose purchases at least threw that ill-conceived, overpriced slab of woefully underpowered tech a half-inflated life preserver.