frankie_baby
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I think the bulk of sales in the west will be on switch, did you see how bad DQH2 on ps4 bombed the other week
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I think the bulk of sales in the west will be on switch, did you see how bad DQH2 on ps4 bombed the other week
No, how bad was it?
I think the PS4 SKU will be more heavily marketed by Sony and SE.
Well the GAF thread doesn't have many people posting and online is apparently completely dead. Steamspy's numbers are at Owners: 13,446 ± 3,394 for the PC version too.
frankie_baby
Member
Number 20 on the ps4 chart
test_account
XP-39C²
Any reason why a lot more people will be interested in the Switch version?
frankie_baby
Member
Nintendo just seem to give more of a shit about dragon quest
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Ōkami;236129520 said:
Honestly surprised how PS4 software sales are within a million of 3DS's without digital as well. Impressive.
What were PS3's software sales per year?
More likely PS4. Already has DQ games, larger install base and varied JRPG audience.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
Basically similar problem to the 3DS. There's ton's of JRPG's on there and DQ doesn't exactly stand out to western tastes.
3DS is almost dead software sales wise and PS4 is at it's peak. Makes sense.
test_account
XP-39C²
Nintendo is publishing it? But the previous 3DS games didnt light the chart on fire. They did chart within the top 40, but dropped off fast. Those were also RPGs.
manueldelalas
Time Traveler
It's based on the PS4 Unreal engine version and is portable.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
Yeah I mean Nintendo is currently spending those marketing yen on the Switch maximing profit from the end of life 3DS. I'm not seeing what's in for them to promote a niche franchise on the west for their end of life handheld. The switch version I could see.
Calm Mind
Member
Of all things to be wrong on...
Portability and Dragon Quest go hand and hand. That and despite a larger install base, the PS4 is not where JRPG's are the focus. What you think equates to a "varied JRPG audience" is merely just a runoff of late Vita and PS3 support.
frankie_baby
Member
Well remains to be seen if they will publish but thats quite likely seeing as they've been publishing dq games for 7 years, exactly though they did chart and it does seem there's never been much appetite for DQ remakes although back on the ds the nintendo published 6 did much better than the SE published 4 and 5
He's referring to the west.
frankie_baby
Member
*not actually confirmed but is almost certain
I heard the 3ds remakes of dragon quest 7 and 8 lit the charts on fire in the west because Nintendo was involved since we are talking about how the spinoff musou game dragon quest heroes bombed there after a slew of Japanese releases on PS4 in the first quarter with notable successes like persona 5, nioh, yakuza and nier...
Edit: damn looks like I was beaten on the 3ds remakes lighting the charts on fire joke
Edit: damn looks like I was beaten on the 3ds remakes lighting the charts on fire joke
Calm Mind
Member
So was I.
test_account
XP-39C²
Well, we already know how the performance of the game is by looking at the japanese version. Portable could be a selling factor, but i' doubt that it will do wonders.
Considering the barren Switch lineup, its possible. But i'm not sure that it will get much attention from Nintendo, or that they will advertise it at all, especially not if they're not the publishers.
We'll see. Considering how little the PS4 and PC version sold, i guess it shouldnt take that much to get the bigger bulk of sales on the Switch.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
Probably won't get massive amounts but it'll likely get some.
I totally get your point(and you're right) but DQ Heroes 2 hasn't been the only bomb recently. Tales of Berseria seems to have sunk despite being one of the best Tales games from what people have said. Koei Tecmo also had another clunker with Toukiden 2, which they're making F2P in an attempt to revitalise the online population.
At the end of the day I don't think any of those specific releases have any real bearing on the success of DQXI, just as the success of stuff like Pokémon and Fantasy Life clearly didn't affect DQ on the 3DS.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Iirc the best selling DQ in recent times was DQB.
Not in the West.
In comparison to SW, PS4 has a ton more JRPGS and SE support so nah.
ZSaberLink
Media Create Maven
Xenoblade 3DS underperformed compared to the original imo but to be fair, it was on New 3DS early in its life. Proximity to X may have hurt though. I do agree having other RPGs on Switch should hopefully help. It's also releasing early in the console's life.
WII Xenoblade Chronicles 79.163 163.442 Nintendo 6/10/2010
WIU Xenoblade Chronicles X 88.544 137.470 Nintendo 4/29/2015
3DS Xenoblade Chronicles 3D [New Nintendo 3DS] 43.762 87.932 Nintendo 4/2/2015
I thought we got updated figures later which showed some decent legs for Xenoblade 3D. I might have totally made that up in my head though.
Eolz
Member
Well yeah, the Switch just came out. Obviously the PS4 has more JRPGs right now, but that's dishonest to not recognize S-E's support for the Switch already... Same for other publishers already supporting it or planning to (NIS, Atlus, etc).
For sales, are you talking about Japan or globally? Because I don't think we got enough sales updates to do that comparison globally.
Hey, I am not the one to proclaim Switch version is going to sell more than PS4 version looking at sales of dqh and somehow Nintendo pushing it or giving a shit matters. The point is that a lot of these Japanese games are going to be hit or miss and there isn't a huge appetite for multiple 40 hour jrpg's. Unless the game is truly unique or special or review very highly, most of these games are going to have soft or terrible launches with long tails if it has good word of mouth and/or price cuts/promotions. PS4 and pc have a very good environment for constant sales, flash sales, promotions etc.... that attract a lot of these Japanese publishers. I am positive Nintendo Eshop is so tightly controlled by Nintendo that a lot of these publishers don't even bother bringing their games over and so Nintendo foots the bill and has full control over how it wants to promote and distribute the game. I mean there has to be a reason why square has no issue bringing games over niche games like dqh, star ocean, I am setsuna etc.... but don't bring over the Nintendo platform stuff themselves for the most part.
Edit: i know I am setsuna was published by square but for the most part they don't(notably bravely default, dq remakes etc...). Will be interesting to see who brings over dq11 for 3ds/switch to the west
frankie_baby
Member
There was litterally no control whatsoever by nintendo for the 3ds/wiiu eshop
This is a weird rant. Also lets ignore shit like Theatrhythm, KH and Heroes of Ruin (just to name a few) to make a bad point.
Square2015
Member
Nah it'll drop off pretty soon. 3D Zelda just isn't there thing in Japan.
Skullwaker
Member
While I don't think 1m by the end of the year is guaranteed by any means, I also don't think it'll drop off "pretty soon." It seems to have pretty decent legs thus far and I can see MK8D/Zelda being the combo that new adopters pick up for a while, at least until Splatoon 2 launches (and even then, Zelda should still be the marquee single player experience on the system).
Doesn't seem to be a problem for the remakes on 3DS tho.
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
Xenoblade always does better in the west
I think BOTW will do really well in Japan on the Switch as an evergreen title based on its reputation, though not quite as well as it is destined to do in the west.
Sammy Samusu
Member
They need it in Japan for obvious reasons but yeah, here in the west DQ is pretty much a non-factor. We could pretend and make excuses that DQ games would pull more JRPG fans to the platform but lol.
Other games can do that more efficiently, like Xenoblade as you mentioned.
wait, really? Damn that's sad, I really liked that game
Probably because it's a remake that was released near the end of the life of the 3DS. But has DQ really sold that well in the west since DQIX? I don't believe any of the remakes/spin offs have really sold the charts on fire.
J
Jpop
Unconfirmed Member
Because SQE published them not Nintendo.
AdventureRacing
Member
DQ XI will definitely outsell splatoon easily at launch, launching on 2 platforms certainly helps there. Having said that splatoon 2 could have a pretty damn big opening. If the switch keeps selling 40-50K until the launch of splatoon 2 the user base will be somewhere around 1.2 million with a big week of sales on the week of splatoon 2. I think 500-600K is doable in that situation. Not enough to compare to the combined sales of DQ but it may well come close to PS4 version alone.
I think splatoon 2 will have the same sales with the ps4 version of DQXI
WUt?O_O Splat 2 is going to destroy DQXI PS4 number. That is not even a question.
Didn't Nintendo publish Dragon Quest VI remake for DS in NA and it didn't do too hot either?
KuwabaraTheMan
Banned
"This will be the end of Breath of the Wild's legs in Japan says increasingly nervous sales age poster for seventh time this year."
BoTW leg is going to broken next week. For sure now.^^
well, that's................ debatable, yeah, there is a big chance hat Splatoon 2 is gonna outsold DQXI ps4, but for me, Nah
Nier, NiOh and Persona 5 all seem to be selling pretty well. I wonder who's buying those games.
I don't really think it's all that debatable.
tbf Persona 5 is the only true Jrpg out of them
Is there like a gaming court out there that decided what does and doesn't count as a JRPG?