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[panama chief]

Somebody connect Ryu to any of the characters from Metal Slug. No MUGEN

 

[Weltall Zero]

Now trying to figure out how to connect him to Divekick, which would connect him to Johnny Gat from Saints Row and Nidhogg

Nidhogg features the titular serpent eating your character when you win (yeah...), so if mythology is fair game, that connects with all the following, most notably Persona:
https://www.giantbomb.com/nidhoggr/3005-19604/

Somebody connect Ryu to any of the characters from Metal Slug. No MUGEN

Er, Ryu number of 1 via Neo Geo Pocket SNK vs Capcom?

 

[Tavernacle12]

This is awesome.

We gotta figure out some of the more bizarre and fun things with the Ryu number that the Bacon number has. Highest Ryu number? Presidents with a Ryu number? What's the biggest franchise without any Ryu number?

EDIT: I think going for mythology is pushing it, though. At that point it's like doing a Mandragora number for RPGs.

 

[Baron Aloha]

Somebody connect Ryu to any of the characters from Metal Slug. No MUGEN

SVC Chaos, KOF, Metal Slug 6

Edit: heck, could probably just do SVC Card Fighters Clash or some shit

 

[Ordinaryundone]

Somebody connect Ryu to any of the characters from Metal Slug. No MUGEN

Ez Pz. Ryu->Iori(SNK VS. Capcom)->Ralph and Clark (King of the Fighters), who were both in Metal Slug VI.

 

[Weltall Zero]

This is awesome.

We gotta figure out some of the more bizarre and fun things with the Ryu number that the Bacon number has. Highest Ryu number? Presidents with a Ryu number? What's the biggest franchise without any Ryu number?

EDIT: I think going for mythology is pushing it, though. At that point it's like doing a Mandragora number for RPGs.

Gorbachev has a Ryu number of 1 via Zangief's ending. Then the Spitting Image game connects him to some politicians of that era.

 

[Golden Darkness]

SVC Chaos, KOF, Metal Slug 6

Edit: heck, could probably just do SVC Card Fighters Clash or some shit

Just SNK Vs. Capcom: SVC CHAOS, as the Mars People was a mid-boss.

 

[Ordinaryundone]

This is awesome.

We gotta figure out some of the more bizarre and fun things with the Ryu number that the Bacon number has. Highest Ryu number? Presidents with a Ryu number? What's the biggest franchise without any Ryu number?

EDIT: I think going for mythology is pushing it, though. At that point it's like doing a Mandragora number for RPGs.

Obama has met Spider-Man, who has fought Ryu.

George Bush Jr. has met Captain America, who has fought Ryu. Ditto Nixon.

I think the biggest franchise with no crossover is probably Call of Duty but I'd love to be proven wrong. Has Ryu ever fought a jet or something? Maybe that car from the special stages.

 

[panama chief]

SVC Chaos, KOF, Metal Slug 6

Edit: heck, could probably just do SVC Card Fighters Clash or some shit

Ez Pz. Ryu->Iori(SNK VS. Capcom)->Ralph and Clark (King of the Fighters), who were both in Metal Slug VI.

Damn. Y'all made quick work of that one 😅😂

 

[Makai]

Ryu - The Baz

Beat that

 

[Zero-ELEC]

Obama has met Spider-Man, who has fought Ryu.

George Bush Jr. has met Captain America, who has fought Ryu. Ditto Nixon.

I think the biggest franchise with no crossover is probably Call of Duty but I'd love to be proven wrong. Has Ryu ever fought a jet or something? Maybe that car from the special stages.

There's no League of Legends connections, either. It's very insular.

Ryu - The Baz

Beat that

Ryu has never actually fought The Baz.

 

[Laevateinn]

Man, you can go Ryu -> Sonic via Smash -> Gilius Thunderhead via Sonic Racing Transformed -> Darksol via Shining in the Darkness -> Jogurt the Yogurt via Shining Force

The weapons merchant is Gilius Thunderhead? My mind is blown.

 

[Weltall Zero]

Ryu - The Baz

Beat that

Ryu -(MVC3)> Dante -(PSASBR)> Kratos -(Shovel Knight)> The Baz.

Alternatively if you consider Dante and Donte to be different characters, use chaobreaker's path to Shovel Knight.

 

[Golden Darkness]

- Spawn's Ryu number is 3. While Heihachi (1, Street Fighter X Tekken) and Link (1, SSB4) both appeared in Soulcalibur II, they were exclusive to different versions and therefore never directly shared a roster with Spawn, necessitating an additional connection via the Soulcalibur cast.

It should be 2. Namco X Capcom has Mitsurugi and Taki. who debuted in Soul Edge and was in Soulcalibur II.

 

[PSqueak]

Is there an anime number too, particularly with VA?

Ryu's anime potential is basically covered by the conecten to the Super Robot Wars series.

like, Ryu to Kamina from Gurren Lagann:

Ryu (street fighter) - Tekkaman Blade (Tatsunoko Vs Capcom) - Kira Yamato [Gundam Seed] (Super Robot Wars J) - Kamina [Gurren Lagann] (Super Robot Wars Z 2)

 

[Weltall Zero]

As a mecha fan I'm trying to make an Optimus Prime - Mazinger connection, but the chain I can think of is insanely long:
Mazinger -(Super Robot Gakuen)> - Fighter Roar -(Endless Frontier)> - KOS-MOS -(Namco X Capcom)> Heihachi -(PSASBR)> Solid Snake -(DreamMix)> Optimus Prime.

Anyone can help me skip some links? I'm sure there must be some Takara game that makes it much shorter, considering many of the Brave series have starred in SRW games alongsize Mazinger.

 

[FlashbladeGAF]

Obama has met Spider-Man, who has fought Ryu.

Obama has fought Ryu
and Ryu has fought American Dad and Family Guy

An omission!

American Dad vs. Family Guy: Kung-Fu II Turbo! Hyper-Mega Edition was a Flash game developed to market American Dad and Family Guy DVD releases. It wouldn't be worth mentioning here, but they actually licensed Ryu to serve as the final boss.

EDIT:

There was also Street Fighter: Mouse Generation, a Japan-only PC fighting game which had Ryu fighting, among others, Chinese wuxia characters, Cyborg 009, and Barack Obama.

http://streetfighter.wikia.com/wiki/Street_Fighter_Online:_Mouse_Generation

Ryu is the best challenger

 

[QuixoticNeutral]

I think the Ryu-Bacon number is probably better considered in the context of the actor, but YMMV on that.

Captain Lou Albano and John Leguizamo and Dennis Hopper - and even Samantha Mathis - also have 3's. I'm sure there's gotta be a 2 via SSB, though.

As someone noted up the thread, Bob Hoskins is a 2 via SSB4. I combed over the 1993 SMB cast as well and spotted Leguizamo's 3 (and Hopper's as well for "King Koopa", which is still Bowser's name in Japan), but it's worth noting that the character Samantha Mathis played was named as Daisy, not Peach (or Toadstool, rather, as I don't think Peach was named as such until SM64).

In terms of how to count, it may be helpful to distinguish different tiers of strong or weak conditions for Ryu numbers. True to the subject matter, we might classify them like this:

- The "fierce Ryu number": playable rosters in fighting games only. Fairly unambiguous, and you can still get surprisingly far this way.
- The "strong Ryu number": characters who have directly fought each other, including non-playable bosses. This gives you Kratos–Shovel Knight–Battletoads (wihch gets you to KI, and from there to the Microsoft IPs) as well as a ton of boss characters generally, like Ridley (who would otherwise be excluded for being too big). This could potentially deliver the PvZ-to-WoW connection via the Singing Sunflower, as someone else noted, although in WoW I'm not sure if the Sunflower ever fights pet characters who actively fight elsewhere—though several of the combat pets appear as skins in Heroes of the Storm, like Grunty Murky or Lil' Ragnaros, and you could conceivably count the Graves pet as the Grave Golem boss.
- The "jab Ryu number": in-game crossover appearances of any kind. This opens the door to a variety of real-world historical figures and indeed, actual game developers (like Hideki Kamiya's cameo as Wonder-Director in The Wonderful 101, which by this metric is a game he shares with Bayonetta, who fights Ryu in SSB4).

There's a good consensus on what counts towards the Bacon number, I think, though I've just been going with what Google tells me.

For the Ryu–Bacon connection, I only considered characters with Ryu numbers played on film by actors with Bacon numbers, but one interesting alternative would be to consider actors with Bacon numbers who play characters in games, like David Hayter (Bacon 2) playing Snake (Ryu 2 via SSB Brawl). And Kiefer Sutherland has a Bacon number of 1 via Flatliners, but I don't know my MGS well enough to understand how all the Snakes relate to each other and which ones we should count as the same or distinct.

If you stretch things beyond straight fighting games, she also played Jane Foster in the Thor films, who appeared in Marvel: Future Fight with a bunch of other Marvel characters. It's entirely possible she will appear - more appropriately - in a future MvC fighter.

(Although if you stretch things beyond straight fighting games, hello Lego!)

Edit: Wait! Marvel: Contest of Champions is a straight official fighting game and already has her in it! That would give her a Ryu number of 2, and fill in the gap.

This is brilliant—I hadn't even considered this route to Portman. It's probably as low as we can go as far as Ryu–Bacon–Erdős is concerned.

 

[Tavernacle12]

Obama has met Spider-Man, who has fought Ryu.

George Bush Jr. has met Captain America, who has fought Ryu. Ditto Nixon.

I think the biggest franchise with no crossover is probably Call of Duty but I'd love to be proven wrong. Has Ryu ever fought a jet or something? Maybe that car from the special stages.

I could be wrong but isn't Jason or Freddy in one of the COD zombie modes? They're in Mortal Kombat and that connects to Injustice, and Batman has a Ryu number.

 

[PSqueak]

As a mecha fan I'm trying to make an Optimus Prime - Mazinger connection, but the chain I can think of is insanely long:
Mazinger -(Super Robot Gakuen)> - Fighter Roar -(Endless Frontier)> - KOS-MOS -(Namco X Capcom)> Heihachi -(PSASBR)> Solid Snake -(DreamMix)> Optimus Prime.

Anyone can help me skip some links? I'm sure there must be some Takara game that makes it much shorter, considering many of the Brave series have starred in SRW games alongsize Mazinger.

Mazinger Z appears along Sanger Zonvolt in SRW @ Gaiden, Sanger Zonvolt appears in Project X Zone

 

[UncleSporky]

What's the biggest franchise without any Ryu number?

I'd say look to stuff on Sony platforms. I'm drawing a blank on a lot of them. Jak and Daxter, Ratchet and Clank...

What about Katamari or Disgaea? Dragon Quest?

 

[J-Tier]

If smash trophies and stage cameos count:

Ryu -> Commander Video (SSB Trophy) -> Shovel Knight (Runbow) -> Annie (Skullgirls) -> Yuzuriha (Under Night In-Birth) -> Sion (Melty Blood) -> Type-Moon shenanigans.

Commander Video and Shovel Knight have plenty of cameos too.

 

[PSqueak]

I'd say look to stuff on Sony platforms. I'm drawing a blank on a lot of them. Jak and Daxter, Ratchet and Clank...

What about Katamari or Disgaea? Dragon Quest?

Weren't there Disgea characters in a crossover with Darkstalkers characters?

 

[QuixoticNeutral]

I'd say look to stuff on Sony platforms. I'm drawing a blank on a lot of them. Jak and Daxter, Ratchet and Clank...

What about Katamari or Disgaea? Dragon Quest?

You can get to much of Sony, including Ratchet and Daxter, via Dante and Heihachi in PSASBR.

Microsoft is a lot harder, but relax the conditions a bit (to characters fighting each other in any context) and the Kratos–Shovel Knight–Battletoads route gets you to Killer Instinct 2013, which delivers Halo and Gears.

Ubisoft may actually be difficult to get to, though, as it's not like the Rabbids show up in everything they do.

It should be 2. Namco X Capcom has Mitsurugi and Taki. who debuted in Soul Edge and was in Soulcalibur II.

Good catch; I didn't spot that as a direct route from Ryu to Soulcalibur.

 

[Golden Darkness]

I'd say look to stuff on Sony platforms. I'm drawing a blank on a lot of them. Jak and Daxter, Ratchet and Clank...

Both of them were on PlayStation All-Star Battle Royale

What about Katamari or Disgaea? Dragon Quest?

Disgaea is connected via Cross Edge, which also has Darkstalkers characters.

Dragon Quest has crossovers with Final Fantasy and Super Mario Bros.

 

[Regiruler]

Now that Mario x Rabbids is proven to be real, Rayman's Ryu number would be 3.

But Rayman was a trophy in Smash 4.

 

[Ordinaryundone]

I could be wrong but isn't Jason or Freddy in one of the COD zombie modes? They're in Mortal Kombat and that connects to Injustice, and Batman has a Ryu number.

I was thinking about that but I'm not sure it counts, given that one mode had no connections (that I know of) to the great series. Still, it's definitely a link.

Also, another weird one, Ryu is 2 steps removed from Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne via Dante. Which means he's 3 steps removed from every other title in the series, even the Persona games, via Jack Frost.

Bonafide Shoto-fide.

 

[Moondrop]

Mike Tyson has a Ryu number of 1 and a Kevin Bacon number of 2 (Neve Campbell, "When Will I Be Loved" and "Wild Things"). But I couldn't find him on PubMed to calculate his Erdős number.

 

[Watch Da Birdie]

On the more general scope of VA, I wouldn't be too surprised if a North Number was a viable concept.

Edit: Actually, that's a bit too modern. Maybe we'd want a Welker Number? He's been very prolific.

I think that'd be too easy (thanks to Pagemaster for instance you can already link him to Patrick Stewart and Jim Cummings, opening up a wide range of immediate links) but if you get a bit more specific and choose a character of his I think a Scooby number could work.

I mean, Scooby has met among others the Three Stooges, Batman and Robin, the Addams Family, Don Knotts, John Cena, KISS, plus all the LEGO Dimensions shenanigans.

 

[PSqueak]

Ryu to former USA president Bill Clinton:

Ryu - Ulala (Project Cross Zone) - Micheal Jackson (Space Channel 5) - Bill Clinton (Ready 2 Rumble Round 2)

The number for Hillary would be the exact same too!

 

[Secret Character]

I'd say look to stuff on Sony platforms. I'm drawing a blank on a lot of them. Jak and Daxter, Ratchet and Clank...

What about Katamari or Disgaea? Dragon Quest?

The Prince is a customization item in Tekken 5: Dark Resurrection. So... 2?

 

[Jamix012]

I reject using Dante (DmC) and Dante (DMC 1-4) as the same character. They're clearly distinct characters with the same name.

 

[J-Tier]

The Virtua Fighter characters being in Dead or Alive connects Ryu to the Spartan from DoA4 too, which connects him to Killer Instinct, which connects him to Gears of War and Battletoads (which also connects him to Double Dragon).

I reject using Dante (DmC) and Dante (DMC 1-4) as the same character. They're clearly distinct characters with the same name.

We could still do the Heihachi, Cole, and Toro/Kuro (SFxT) connection or Snake (SSBB) to Raiden to connection to connect to PSABR assuming Dante (DmC) is a different character.

 

[UncleSporky]

Both of them were on PlayStation All-Star Battle Royale



Disgaea is connected via Cross Edge, which also has Darkstalkers characters.

Dragon Quest has crossovers with Final Fantasy and Super Mario Bros.

Oh that's right, nice.

What about Grand Theft Auto? The Sims? Assassin's Creed? Elder Scrolls? Fallout?

Minecraft has crossed over with Mario so that's easy.

Angry Birds crossed over with Star Wars, but I'm not sure if it was ever the actual characters or just a franchise skin. Can you count Luke Skywalker if he was in bird form, or just a bird wearing his clothes?

 

[CamHostage]

Gorbachev has a Ryu number of 1 via Zangief's ending. Then the Spitting Image game connects him to some politicians of that era.

I would have thought Zangief would have been an easier connection than Ryu to the greater gaming universe and beyond since he was in Wreck-it Ralph, but I guess he didn't fight anybody in that movie and I think he's not in all the VS games, so maybe that doesn't work.

Weird idea there, OP.

 

[thesaucetastic]

I note with profound regret that Padmé Amidala has not appeared in a Star Wars fighting game, or Natalie Portman would lay claim to the ultimate rarity, the nontrivial Ryu–Bacon–Erdős number.

Holy shit.

 

[Pieman0920]

I believe Angry Birds characters show up in Puzzle and Dragons, which has Cloud. It also has Attack on Titan, DBZ, Evangelion, and a whole lot of other anime.

Edit: For Assassins Creed, Ezio was in Soul Calibur V, and both Mitsurgi and Natsu from that game tie with Ryu directly due to NxC and PxZ2.

 

[UncleSporky]

I would have thought Zangief would have been an easier connection than Ryu to the greater gaming universe and beyond since he was in Wreck-it Ralph, but I guess he didn't fight anybody in that movie and I think he's not in all the VS games, so maybe that doesn't work.

Weird idea there, OP.

Wreck It Ralph doesn't even go very far into the greater gaming universe. A lot of generics not from anything, Sonic, Qbert, Dig Dug, Pac Man. Much of it is also linked via Smash.

 

[chaobreaker]

If we count external media then Ryu actually has a 3 with Batman. Ryu->Thor(MvC3)->Superman(DC vs. Marvel)->Batman(Injustice). Also through the Dante/Kratos/Scorpion link Ryu has fought Freddy Krueger and.Jason Vorhees.

Sigourney Weaver has a Ryu number of 4, considering Scorpion has fought the Alien.

Scorpion has fought an Alien/Tarkatta hybrid unique to Mortal Kombat. One that has never appeared in an official Alien movie or met Ripley or whatever. Doesn't count.

 

[The Omega Man]

I tried to connect Goku to Ryu but didn't have any success, I started with J-Stars Victory VS and then tried to find my way to Ryu but couldn't.

 

[Pieman0920]

I tried to connect Goku to Ryu but didn't have any success, I started with J-Stars Victory VS and then tried to find my way to Ryu but couldn't.

Cloud (Smash 4) -> Goku (Puzzle and Dragons)

Or

Lars from Tekken (SFxT) -> Naruto (There was a Ultimate Ninja game with Lars in it) -> J Stars.

 

[J-Tier]

What about Grand Theft Auto? The Sims? Assassin's Creed? Elder Scrolls? Fallout

Had a bit of trouble with GTA. The Sims has Morrigan from Dragon Age in it, though I couldn't make a connection from there. You might be able to connect the Dr. Wright Assist Trophy from SSBB though.

 

[QuixoticNeutral]

Mike Tyson has a Ryu number of 1 and a Kevin Bacon number of 2 (Neve Campbell, "When Will I Be Loved" and "Wild Things"). But I couldn't find him on PubMed to calculate his Erdős number.

I'm not inclined to count Boxer/Balrog/Bison as Mike Tyson, but if you count non-playable bosses, Tyson still has a Ryu number of 2 via Little Mac.

 

[PSqueak]

I would have thought Zangief would have been an easier connection than Ryu to the greater gaming universe and beyond since he was in Wreck-it Ralph, but I guess he didn't fight anybody in that movie and I think he's not in all the VS games, so maybe that doesn't work.

Weird idea there, OP.

Ryu was in Wreck-it Ralph too.

Which actually opens links to many things via Disney infinity...or it would if he hadn't that covered with marvel characters anyway.

 

[Weltall Zero]

I believe Angry Birds characters show up in Puzzle and Dragons, which has Cloud. It also has Attack on Titan, DBZ, Evangelion, and a whole lot of other anime.

Edit: For Assassins Creed, Ezio was in Soul Calibur V, and both Mitsurgi and Natsu from that game tie with Ryu directly due to NxC and PxZ2.

Cloud (Smash 4) -> Goku (Puzzle and Dragons)

I knew the gacha games wouldn't disappoint, and Puzzle & Dragons is one of the biggest and most prolific in crossovers.

For Angry Birds, would the Star Wars and Transformers crossovers count? And more in general, do "crossoverized" versions of characters count?

I'm not inclined to count Boxer/Balrog/Bison as Mike Tyson, but if you count non-playable bosses, Tyson still has a Ryu number of 2 via Little Mac.

Wait, that's what he meant by it? I made the Punch Out connection but I couldn't figure out when did Ryu star in the same game as Mike Tyson. That most emphatically doesn't count as the same character for me.

 

[PSqueak]

I knew the gacha games wouldn't disappoint, and Puzzle & Dragons is one of the biggest and most prolific in crossovers.

For Angry Birds, would the Star Wars and Transformers crossovers count? And more in general, do "crossoverized" versions of characters count?

Angry birds had a crossover with sonic, sonic is in smash, etc.

 

[Weltall Zero]

Angry birds had a crossover with sonic, sonic is in smash, etc.

Interesting, I didn't have a clue, and also from your post I assumed it would be Sonic cameoing in Angry Birds, not the opposite! The things I'm learning today.

 

[J-Tier]

Someone mentioned Lego Dimensions earlier in the thread, that would connect Ryu to so many random characters.

Ryu -> Sonic -> Ghostbusters, The A-Team, Adventure Time, Knight Ryder, The Lego Movie, Harry Potter, Lord of the Rings etc.

From Lord of the Rings -> Shadow of Mordor
Lego Movie -> TMNT
Adventure Time -> I'm sure we can find a thread to connect this to Cartoon Network Punch Time Explosion

Edit: You can connect Adventure Time via FuSion Frenzy, the MMO, to pretty much every Cartoon Network series.

 

[BooJoh]

Elder Scrolls? Fallout?

Minecraft has crossed over with Mario so that's easy.

If you count all officially released skin packs then Minecraft crosses over with Skyrim, Fallout, LBP, Halo, Mass Effect, Star Wars, Simpsons, Marvel, Dr Who, Power Rangers, Banjo-Kazooie, Ms. Splosion Man, Perfect Dark, and others. Not all skins are available on all platforms and some are no longer available but most of them should connect safely through the Xbox versions of the game.

Not to mention Steve's inclusion in Super Meat Boy alongside other guest characters.


While I'm here I thought I'd point out the potential goldmine that is Wreck-it-Ralph. Ryu appears in the movie, voiced by Kyle Hebert (Ryu's current game VA,) who has a Bacon number of 2 via John C. Reilly or Jane Lynch. Obviously the movie is packed with both video game cameos and connections to hollywood actors.

 

[Boss Doggie]

Lol technically he's fought Thanos too, just in the other two games.

I know, I mean when I read it as Thanos first, I was like "when was Thanos in SMITE" lol