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Let us calmly discuss the Monster Hunter 4chan rumor about PS4 and Switch
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giving a heads up has nothing to do with a plattform being succesfull, or rather knowing if its gonna be.
This means nothing tbh. Capcom would know there would be a another nintendo handheld if nintendo is telling them or not
Thanks, guys.
Still, it's baffling to me that Sony would want to block the NS for the "westernized" version, but let the system have the normal version. Why segment it like that, and why let the NS have the "normal" version? It doesn't make any sense to me. What's even crazier to me is that since the NS can be docked to play the game on the TV, the "portable" version may as well be the console version, too.
The Last One
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If Capcom intends to make Monster Hunter bigger in west than their prediction wouldn't be only 1.5M for it, I mean, it's Capcom, they would be predicting 3 million in 3 months.
Edit: BTW, I don't think Sony would need to pay for the game to be released on PS4 in the west. Ps4 is the default platform if any publisher wishes for success in their games.
Edit: BTW, I don't think Sony would need to pay for the game to be released on PS4 in the west. Ps4 is the default platform if any publisher wishes for success in their games.
That only sounds reasonable if we entertain the idea of Capcom being confident in the scenario where the Switch replaces the 3DS position in the Japanese market, which would allow them to target both the reliable Japanese MH userbase and the western PS4/PC/XB market with a single title, justifying the costs of modernizing the franchise.
But, like you said:
Which makes Capcom splintering the MH development efforts in two titles causing strife and straining relationships with both Nintendo and Sony a completely plausible possibility.
LinkSlayer64
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Anything's possible​ I suppose.
Maybe my memory is failing me but does MH have QTEs? The closest thing I can think of is the monster mounting system which is essentially timed button mashing. I guess those are technically QTEs but, the way the rumor is worded, suggests it's something more than what's already there....which leads me into thinking it's something like God of War where you watch Kratos do things as long as you hit the right buttons.
Angry Chair
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The only way this rumor makes sense is if the PS4-exclusive Monster Hunter is a movie tie-in and MH5 is Switch-exclusive. Maybe the leaker extrapolated too much from his/her information?
ArchedThunder
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From day 1 I've thought this rumor was bogus, it just doesn't make sense.
At most MH5 will be on Switch and PS4.
At most MH5 will be on Switch and PS4.
Yeah I was trying to remember if they gave concrete estimates for the unnamed major game for this fiscal year- was it 1.5M?
bobbychalkers
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I own both a Switch and a PS4 but it sounds like I can ignore MH5 if this is the case
SporeCrawler
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the last game sold incredibly well for the small update it was. they probably invested a fraction of the budget they invested in a game like SFV or RE7. 3DS is going to be around as a cheap option so there will still be a market for capcom. thats why 3DS/Switch makes sense imho. maybe they will also include a Ps4 port on top of that .
Yeah, it's very risky, but I've been saying for years that if Japanese games with methodical combat like Dark Souls and Nioh which at one point would have and were considered to be "niche" and then became mainstream, then I see no reason why Monster Hunter can't see similar success. It needs a lot of work before it can do that, but that's where the risk comes in. If Capcom can competently give their IP a makeover and improve many aspects of it that console/PC players would enjoy then I think they have a good shot at being successful.
Will they be successful? I have no idea. i can't predict the future, but if you don't take risks you'll never know.
What do you think that would entail
the farming aspect, and setting up your inventory makes mh sooooooooooo fun tho imo of course
The Last One
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Yes, it was 1.5M. When they announced XX for the Switch we thought that would be it, but we were wrong and they actually have another game for this prediction.
This is what I think it's likely to happen, like I mentioned earlier. A MH game based on the movie for PS4/PC/Xbox and the "usual" MH on the Switch.
Ok. Yeah that doesn't sound like a Western-focused Monster Hunter to me, at least as far as Capcom having bat shit crazy expectations. Could obviously be for next fiscal year though.
What you say is a given. I'm talking contractual, as in legal binding/logical stipulations drawn up during contract negotiations.
In what world, competitive world, would Sony draw up a contract/agree to one (they are money hatting after all) where there isn't at least some kind of IP timed exclusivity. From a gamer standpoint, everyone wins. From Sony's stance, however, they get the shaft:
They pony up the dough, get a totally different MH game (developed from a totally different team, not the core team), all the while Capcom still makes MH games freely for the Switch? What was the point of the money hatting/contract?
Isn't the reliability of this rumour based on the person 'correctly' guessing MHXX before its announcement?
Many people could have guessed that MHXX was coming, but the person calls in Monster Hunter 'cross cross' isn't it officially called double cross?
I think they've just started with a reasonable prediction then ran wild.
I'm an insider too! Monster Hunter Generations Ultimate will be at E3 for release alongside MHXX Switch Ver. day and date! MH5 will be teased at TGS this year.
Many people could have guessed that MHXX was coming, but the person calls in Monster Hunter 'cross cross' isn't it officially called double cross?
I think they've just started with a reasonable prediction then ran wild.
I'm an insider too! Monster Hunter Generations Ultimate will be at E3 for release alongside MHXX Switch Ver. day and date! MH5 will be teased at TGS this year.
I'm just pulling this from my arse but both of these are likely scenarios
Monster Hunter already sold a million on the 3DS in the west and Generations not much less(and was no.1 on NPD). That's already Ni-Oh's level or more. Simply expanding to more platforms would probably be enough to increase those numbers providing they had more QoL changes and strong support/marketting.
Dark Souls doesn't sell that much better.
kitchenmotors
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This is the most 4chan rumour I've ever seen.
It's baseless
It's baseless
Making a AAA MH on PS4 sounds expensive. You can't make a AAA HD MH just for Japan alone. That would be throwing money out the window. You have to sell the game to the West as well. And the West, at least according to Capcom, likes open world, QTEs and more action. Besides, Capcom wants MH to be more popular in the West. What better chance to do that than the clear market leader, Sony with the PS4?
I mean, even if this turns out to be false, I love the fanfiction surrounding it.
The rumour specifies that the real Monster Hunter team will work on Switch games, which implies Anderson MH is being done by someone else.
The original Toukiden led development on PSP.
Though, given Toukiden 2 went open world and intiated a sales collapse, maybe it should've been a design choice.
Sgt.Pepper
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Press A to awesome on that Jaggi.
Well let's put it this way, Dark Souls 3 was in the top 10 best selling games in NPD for 12 months. That's really, really good for a series of games which was originally PS3 exclusive and seen as so "niche" that Sony wouldn't even publish it themselves worldwide lol.
So I'm glad we're in agreement that a multiplatform MH game would sell more copies. I think they'll need more thsn just QoL improvements but we'll see what they do with MH5 if the rumour is correct.
Yup
If this is true, considering how I don't see the benefit of expanding western sales alone, without being able to pair the obvious lost sales in Japan and expanding over that, in order to make this MH5 useful it should sell at least 3.5 millions in the west
hans_castorp
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An even more dumbed-down MH? No thnxs
They should make offline mandatory and up the difficulty. Right now online is full of carried people that barely know how to play and are unable to use more than one weapon type.
They should make offline mandatory and up the difficulty. Right now online is full of carried people that barely know how to play and are unable to use more than one weapon type.
Eolz
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https://www.engadget.com/2010/01/05/nintendo-distributing-monster-hunter-3-in-europe-this-april/
http://www.nintendo-insider.com/nintendo-to-distribute-monster-hunter-3-ultimate/
https://www.nintendo.co.uk/News/201...or-Nintendo-3DS-and-2DS-in-Europe-900693.html
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2...ltimate-will-spark-a-breakthrough-in-the-west
http://www.nintendolife.com/news/20...thing_you_want_to_know_about_monster_hunter_3
http://www.hardcoregamer.com/2017/0...-reveals-the-future-for-the-franchise/254572/
http://uk.ign.com/articles/2009/08/12/capcom-teams-with-nintendo
http://www.capcom-unity.com/dubindo...ster-hunter-stories-on-nintendo-3ds-this-fall
Hope it helps.
Nintendo forced Capcom
Nintendo bribed Capcom
Nintendo ransomed Capcom
Nintendo is the abuser in this sick relationship, we need to stop them!!
*raises Vita in solidarity*
Aside from the fact that Nintendo pushed Mon Hun on the Wii which is the single largest move from its obscurity into the limelight with TV ads and native online functionality while the 3DS games proceeded to hit millions of sales carving out new players from all over the world as opposed to stewing the existing Japanese fanbase.
I get the odd feeling that Capcom aren't interested in rebuilding the game from the ground up for proper HD consoles but would rather slide with PS2 assets for as long as possible, coming out of this generation there won't be any more 240p standards so the floor is open for a multi platform release; I believe it's going to come down to which platform will perform the best.
So lets see how well MHXX Switch sells and predict from there.
Psycho_Mantis
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True but even then MH Stories was to be a Japan focused portable game which even at Switch level has lower expectations than a western focused AAA PS4 game.
Oh yeah. I think MH releasing on PS4(and probably PC) is extremely likely, I just think there's very iffy aspects of this specific rumour.
SporeCrawler
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yeah also the reason why people are believing it seems to be because the ultimateversion of MHX was MHXX
I already explained it. Capcom would only make a MH game for Sony if they are still allowed to make Nintendo ones. Because Capcom aren't that crazy to give up 4+m sales in Japan. And if this rumour ends up being true, then Sony, agreed to that. Maybe Sony has confidence in a HD MH game with the movie tie-in? Maybe they like the concept Capcom showed them? Personally I think it's a bit far-fetched, but who knows. In the end it's not too different with the Bayonetta 2 deal. Sega are still allowed to make Bayonetta 3 for the PS4/XBO etc.
They pretty much made the village mandatory in MH4U because of wystones. I wouldn't mind seeing them do something similar (Maybe you could need to do certain village quests to unlock your urgent to reach high rank) again.
My own take on the rumour is that "open world" could mean anything and it doesn't necessarily have to mean "Skyrim size map" and instead it could just mean a seamless map without loading times like in newer hunting games which would be the next logical step for MH.
They need to revamp and overhaul the long range weapon controls as well. I've played MH for thousands of hours but I shudder every time I use Bows/Guns.
Except the rumour says Sony only paid to keep the game off Switch and not off PC or XB1 which is not like the Bayonetta 2 situation.
hans_castorp
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Even with that you still met people trying to do 140GQ without the stones.
Making Urgent quests offline-only could be a good idea. It would force people to get better, and would reduce the "Pld do Gog/Pls do Ala" spam
Basically Horizon....but Monster Hunter monsters
I agree with the first part of your post, why would Capcom give all that up. But if they are unwilling to give all of that up, I highly doubt Sony would throw money Capcom's way unless there were some strict stipulations involved. I cannot buy into the theory that Sony, in good faith, threw money Capcom's way for just MH5, while Nintendo retains it's presence with the IP, then drew up a contract and called it a day.
Sounds like a pie in the sky kind of scenario, but that is what the rumor is displaying here.
Interesting rumours. I played MH Tri on the Wii and one of the MH's on the 3ds, and both times quit after two hours due to the split up areas. I thought "I'd love this if this was open world, but not like this." Felt like PS2-era game design to me. There was no joy in exploration.
Looks like there may be a Monster Hunter purchase on the PS4 in my future. Give it to me as casual as you can, Capcom.
Looks like there may be a Monster Hunter purchase on the PS4 in my future. Give it to me as casual as you can, Capcom.
I would probably have slapped myself for saying this a year ago but I'm so tired of all the recycling and rehashing that I wouldn't actually mind if they took the basic ingredients and mixed up the formula a fair bit. E3 could be interesting but I expect nothing after years of "unannounced PS4 MH" "insider" posts on this very board.
Continuing "traditional" MH on switch while offering something that's targeting the western audience and existing community on other platforms is sound too. But it's capcom after all so who knows what they'd end up with.
Continuing "traditional" MH on switch while offering something that's targeting the western audience and existing community on other platforms is sound too. But it's capcom after all so who knows what they'd end up with.
I haven't played it obviously but from what I've read the seamless map aspect of Toukiden 2 wasn't as well received as they probably hoped.
I agree on the ranged weapons though, I've tried Bow several times in Tri U, 4U and Generations and it just sucks.
To be honest, Toukiden 2 is just a shit game. I can't name one thing I like about it. The same goes for the first one as well. Monster Hunter has always been in a different league from Toukiden, seamless or not and I bet Capcom's development staff have been dreaming of new things to implement in MH if hardware permitted for years now.
Eolz
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MonHun working with zones is a design choice that works. Not sure why people think that this is an hardware limitation.
I'm sure that Verendus' promise of two monster hunter games exclusive to PS4 will come true just after other leaks such as Virtua Fighter 6 PS4 exclusive, that 1st party Sony JRPG, FFVI remake, and countless others.
Belee dat.
I'm sure that Verendus' promise of two monster hunter games exclusive to PS4 will come true just after other leaks such as Virtua Fighter 6 PS4 exclusive, that 1st party Sony JRPG, FFVI remake, and countless others.
Belee dat.
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