Sheriff_Battlesnake
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Did I see Tetsuya Nomura's name on that E3 trailer!? Or did I imagine that?!
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Tetsuya Takahashi's message on Xenoblade Chronicles 2
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SomewhatGroovy
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I am hyped beyond belief for this. I watched the 40 min demonstration video on youtube and loved everything i saw.
Orakio Rob
Member
I couldn't care less about story in games and loved the exploration in Xeno X, so I'm still torn about Xeno 2, but...
... this sounds good to me.
... this sounds good to me.
KOS-MOS is hot, but not so skimpy that her attire literally looks stripperific. In regards to roles, she is her own battle weapon and character, and not subservient to anyone, even Shion most of the time. I'll withhold my judgment on Pyra, but she's def a lot kinkier looking than KOS-MOS.
I mean, the original XC had its fair share of miserable characters and tragedy.
Pretty much the entirety of
Melia's
High Entia
I'm not saying XB wasn't tragic at times, it just seems that this is much more light-hearted which is a bit of a bummer.
Sheriff_Battlesnake
Banned
SporeCrawler
Member
I was going to post a Elma pic but that was a massive spoiler
what they talked about is that this game will feature multiple titans... so multiple bionis or mechonis like worlds...
we just saw the giraffe like one but if they have like 10 of those .... man the game will be easily bigger than botw or XBX
I would be okay with this. They should get another guy to do the art design, or get some folks to teach them how to get it done. Maybe that same guy can hook up with Bethesda, too.
DangerMouse
Member
This. Elma should have been the lead party member as well, hopefully some day.
Yep, though obviously still fanservicey. And yeah, her role, overruling and backing it up, etc. was also great.
It doesn't bother me too much, I'm just surprised that her like thong and backside are so visible lol.
Yeah, though her main armor is pretty good.
Mister Wolf
Gold Member
KOS-MOS Elma is pretty hot too. And about as stripperific as Pyra, I agree.
The ribbon straps leading to her tiny thong-shorts is what does it for me. KOS-MOS is in a leotard basically. Albeit with generous cleavage and midriff.
I really don't see how Pyra is more kinkier.
I really don't see how Pyra is more kinkier.
Eh I think this version is more comparable what with the mini skirt and all.
That being said, we obviously know a TON more about KOS-MOS as a character than we know about Pyra so I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt. At least it seems like she's the one with the goal of getting to Elysium and Rex is her support vs that being his goal and her just going along with it because she wants to protect him/loves him/whatever.
I would not object to slightly less skimpy shorts though. At least Sharla-level, that would make a big difference.
I... don't think I could write more than 5 sentences about what the story in this game is about, much less produce any sort of judgement on how light-hearted it is.
Astral Dog
Member
Lol i thought it said Tetsuya Nomura
Tetsuya Nomura's message on Xenoblade Chronicles 2:
"I'm very excited for you to play Takahashi-san's upcoming new game, so I decided to postpone Final Fantasy 7 in order to explore some North American caves with Tabata-san as inspiration for the character I designed. While we were there, I realized that Kingdom Hearts 3 is unfortunately not where I wanted it to be, so I have rebooted it for Nintendo Switch."
/s
Sheriff_Battlesnake
Banned
He's a guest designer on this project!
Tetsuya Nomura is a guest designer on Xenoblade Chronicles 2
No joke. Saw it in the trailer and had to double-take.
Regarding my breasts argument, just ask yourself this: Would a female designer have designed her the same way? Most likely not. This screams straight male teenager fantasy. Says a lot about the designer, as well, if you ask me.
I know, I'm just going by Takahashi's comments. It might not be light-hearted at all, but going by what he said, it sounds like it will be. And if it is, that's a bummer. If not, good. That's all.
There are plenty of pandering designs done by females. Solange from Code of Princess as an example.
Well, I mean, she likely does die if Link dies or if he never woke up in time. And why do you keep bringing up that quote/line in the game? People already told you she is referring to multiple people when she said that.
Female designers can and do design characters like her. Could still just be done to pander to a male demographic, but they do.
Some Nobody
Junior Member
Yeah I've seen tons of really tasteful designs done by men (though usually western) and tons of cheesecake-y designs from women. That doesn't make Pyra a good design by any means, though. Her outfit bugs me, lol.
Are you the one in Kiseki threads complaining about how happy everything is? Go play Witcher or something, man. Fiction is depressing enough, I like a change of pace.
Anyway, much as I want this game, I want X2 way more. A few tweaks to that style of gameplay and quest design and it's a masterpiece.
Definitely not. They're not changing a core design that's heavily been advertised.
SporeCrawler
Member
man who owns the xenosaga ip at the moment.
id love them to bring over i-iii on switch.
Uh, possibly? I hardly go around telling people how much I hated the pillow-fight war of Cold Steel 1 and 2, but it was one of my bigger complaints about it and I have mentioned it a couple of times. I don't think I've talked about it since CS2's release, though, so not sure if I should be flattered you seem to remember me.
Oppressively depressing fiction is great, makes real life seem like a fairy tale in comparison!
I've always liked the second image of KOS-MOS over the top one. I think she's a much better designed character than Pyra.
Sure, I'm just saying that as the person that consumes this product, I have no issue with a female protagonist having big breasts. I do have an issue with the overly sexualized and pandering clothes. It's difficult for me to really put it into words, but what I take issue with is people saying that somehow her having big boobs clashes with the traits that the game wants her to have, or any sort of positive characterization that the narrative might imbue into her.
The clothes are silly, jarring and ultimately damaging to the game because they're obviously designed by the character's creators to be fanservice for a male audience first and foremost, in disservice of both the game and character's context. The same thing can't be said for her breasts.
whyamihere
Banned
As long as it's sad enough so there's a city building side quest.
Mister Wolf
Gold Member
The point of the image was to show that Kos-Mos was/is every bit of a fan service "weapon" girl design as Pyra.
I don't believe this for a second. It's not a Takahashi game until the protagonist loses their hometown/starting location in a horrible accident.
For what it's worth, the first Xenoblade had the first village spared.
Yes but her mere existence isn't tied to Link.
Do you have a source for this? I would gladly shut up if true.
You guys are right. It's the pandering to this specific demographic that I take issue with.
Even if it wasn't burnt to ashes, it's a stretch to label it as "spared".
Yeah, but I kind of feel that Pyra is a little too much. I think I even saw boob jiggle in the stream the other day.
It's from the Japanese trailer. I'm definitely no expert but it sounds like she does say "minna" so the plural you not the singular you.
Didn't seem like a detail any more gratuitous than in the original Xenoblade. Unless the suggestion is that they shouldn't move at all?
Probably won't be as severe as Vanea.
She definitely says "minna", so she's talking about her group.
Mister Wolf
Gold Member
dermannmitdemcolt
Member
Still looking forward to the game but this kinda makes me sad. The Takahashi of 10 years ago was so much more interesting than this watered down Nintendo version.
Indeed. Sharla was the first example who came to mind for me, but yeah, her too.
Lets not forget about this one from Xenoblade.
I'd say all of KOS-MOS's forms are more tasteful. Personal opinion, of course.
Hm, any given KOS-MOS design with the exception of Ep. II seemed just as fan servicey to me.