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BO Wkd 06•16-18•17 - Queen is dethroned, all hail McQueen, ScarJo roughed up

Looking at 2018, why are WB putting out 1 DCEU film when they're effectively guaranteed money makers regardless of quality? Marvel has 3 on slate.

At one point The Flash was supposed to be released in 2018.

6 months into 2017 they haven't even announced a director for it.
 

kswiston

Member
Where do you think it ends up?

Hard to say. Wonder Woman is facing bigger openers in the next 3 weeks than it did in its first three. Probably $375-400M. I'm leaning towards something in the middle of that I think.

Overseas dropped 49% for Wonder Woman to $652M total worldwide. Gitesh thinks $800M+, but I think that is being too optimistic. There were a few minor openings again this weekend, so the actual international drop was somewhere over 50%. I don't see how overseas does another $70-80M on a $20M weekend. Especially some gigantic openers coming up.

EDIT: Japan is still to open, but it's best to just assume the worst in Japan for superhero films. WW has a pretty good shot at beating Deadpool though.
 

BumRush

Member
At one point The Flash was supposed to be released in 2018.

6 months into 2017 they haven't even announced a director for it.

Oh, I thought that was always TBD 2019. Thanks!

Hard to say. Wonder Woman is facing bigger openers in the next 3 weeks than it did in its first three. Probably $375-400M. I'm leaning towards something in the middle of that I think.

Overseas dropped 49% for Wonder Woman to $652M total worldwide. Gitesh thinks $800M+, but I think that is being too optimistic. There were a few minor openings again this weekend, so the actual international drop was somewhere over 50%. I don't see how overseas does another $70-80M on a $20M weekend. Especially some gigantic openers coming up.

EDIT: Japan is still to open, but it's best to just assume the worst in Japan for superhero films. WW has a pretty good shot at beating Deadpool though.

400/800 would be incredible, but like you said, the next three weeks are tough competition.
 

suaveric

Member
Well I mean, obviously they only have one expected to be made by then...but why? Why did they plan 1 for the whole year?

They originally had plans for two or three 2018 movies. Flash and Aquaman were definitely coming and it looked like The Batman was as well. But DC decided it was better to have no movies rather than shit ones so they're spending this year retooling things.

The only problem with that is now they have a shit ton of movies on the slate and no where to put them all.

Movies that are being worked on, if all the rumors are to be believed:

The Batman (trilogy?)
Flash
Green Lantern Corps
Gotham City Sirens
Suicide Squad 2
Batgirl
Nightwing
Man of Steel 2
Wonder Woman 2
Shazam and/or Black Adam
Justice League Dark
Cyborg

Assuming JL does well this fall I think at least another one of those is in the cards. The original plan was to have most of those out by 2020, but that's impossible now.
 

kswiston

Member
Weekend Studio Estimates

1) Transformers: The Last Knight - ??
2 - Tie) Cars 3 - $25.175M - $100M total
2 - Tie) Wonder Woman - $25.175M - $318M total
4) 47 Meters Down - $7.4M (-57%) - $24M total
 

BumRush

Member
They originally had plans for two or three 2018 movies. Flash and Aquaman were definitely coming and it looked like The Batman was as well. But DC decided it was better to have no movies rather than shit ones so they're spending this year retooling things.

The only problem with that is now they have a shit ton of movies on the slate and no where to put them all.

Movies that are being worked on, if all the rumors are to be believed:

The Batman (trilogy?)
Flash
Green Lantern Corps
Gotham City Sirens
Suicide Squad 2
Batgirl
Nightwing
Man of Steel 2
Wonder Woman 2
Shazam and/or Black Adam
Justice League Dark
Cyborg

Assuming JL does well this fall I think at least another one of those is in the cards. The original plan was to have most of those out by 2020, but that's impossible now.

Haha yeah that seems like too many although at least some are probably in pre-pre-pre production.
 
Comic Con is soon. Zemeckis and Vaughn are still in talks.

Oh, I know. I'm just saying that they initially had very different plans.

Oh, I thought that was always TBD 2019. Thanks!

This is from October 2014

upcoming-dc-films1.jpg
 

kswiston

Member
I am waiting on All Eyez on Me and The Mummy to do a full weekend top 10. Too many close performances to guess the ranking this week.


Worldwide Updates:

Wonder Woman - $652M
The Mummy - $342M
Guardian of the Galaxy v2 - $851M
Pirates of the Caribbean 5 - $678M
Cars 3 - $141M total
Despicable Me 3 - $19M
 

zero_suit

Member
I am waiting on All Eyez on Me and The Mummy to do a full weekend top 10. Too many close performances to guess the ranking this week.


Worldwide Updates:

Wonder Woman - $652M
The Mummy - $342M
Guardian of the Galaxy v2 - $851M
Pirates of the Caribbean 5 - $678M
Cars 3 - $141M total
Despicable Me 3 - $19M

Cars 3 isn't doing too good...
 

BumRush

Member
I am waiting on All Eyez on Me and The Mummy to do a full weekend top 10. Too many close performances to guess the ranking this week.


Worldwide Updates:

Wonder Woman - $652M
The Mummy - $342M
Guardian of the Galaxy v2 - $851M
Pirates of the Caribbean 5 - $678M
Cars 3 - $141M total
Despicable Me 3 - $19M

Cars have a staggered WW release? It's at $100M Dom but only $141 WW?

Edit: saw your follow up
 

kswiston

Member
Cars 3 isn't doing too good...

Cars 3 Release Dates

Netherlands 12 July 2017
Argentina 13 July 2017
Brazil 13 July 2017
Chile 13 July 2017
Hong Kong 13 July 2017
South Korea 13 July 2017
Spain 14 July 2017
UK 14 July 2017
Japan 15 July 2017
Belgium 26 July 2017
Philippines 26 July 2017
Estonia 28 July 2017
Finland 28 July 2017
Lithuania 28 July 2017
Latvia 28 July 2017
France 2 August 2017
Cambodia 8 August 2017
Denmark 31 August 2017
Singapore 31 August 2017
Norway 1 September 2017
Sweden 1 September 2017
Italy 14 September 2017
Germany 28 September 2017
 

zero_suit

Member
Cars 3 Release Dates

Netherlands 12 July 2017
Argentina 13 July 2017
Brazil 13 July 2017
Chile 13 July 2017
Hong Kong 13 July 2017
South Korea 13 July 2017
Spain 14 July 2017
UK 14 July 2017
Japan 15 July 2017
Belgium 26 July 2017
Philippines 26 July 2017
Estonia 28 July 2017
Finland 28 July 2017
Lithuania 28 July 2017
Latvia 28 July 2017
France 2 August 2017
Cambodia 8 August 2017
Denmark 31 August 2017
Singapore 31 August 2017
Norway 1 September 2017
Sweden 1 September 2017
Italy 14 September 2017
Germany 28 September 2017

I stand corrected.
 

kswiston

Member
Weekend Studio Estimates

1) Transformers: The Last Knight - $45.3M - $69M total
2 - Tie) Cars 3 - $25.175M (-53%) - $100M total
2 - Tie) Wonder Woman - $25.175M (-39%) - $318M total
4) 47 Meters Down - $7.4M (-34%) - $24M total
5) The Mummy - $5.8M (-60%) - $68M total
6) All Eyez on Me - $5.8M (-78%) - $39M total
7) Pirates of the Caribbean 5 - $5.2M (-42%) - $160M total
8) Rough Night - $4.7M (-41%) - $17M total
9) Captain Underpants - $4.2M (40%) - $66M total
10) Guardians of the Galaxy 2 - $3.0M (-41%) - $380M total
 

CDX

Member
Weekend Studio Estimates

1) Transformers: The Last Knight - ??
2 - Tie) Cars 3 - $25.175M - $100M total
2 - Tie) Wonder Woman - $25.175M - $318M total
4) 47 Meters Down - $7.4M (-57%) - $24M total
5) The Mummy - $5.8M - $68M total
6) All Eyez on Me - $5.8M - $39M total
7) Pirates of the Caribbean 5 - $5.2M - $160M total
8) Rough Night - ??
9) Captain Underpants - $4.2M - $66M total
10) Guardians of the Galaxy 2 - $3.0M - $380M total

Cars 3 dropped a bit more than I expected it would.

So I guess, it's possible Wonder Woman could get the #2 spot legitimately when the actuals come out.
 
Looking at 2018, why are WB putting out 1 DCEU film when they're effectively guaranteed money makers regardless of quality? Marvel has 3 on slate.

I'm glad they're taking their time. The DCEU will make billions for them once it's in full gear but imagine what the previous movies could have made with WW's legs. They could have written Suicide Squad 2 or Sirens in 6 weeks and gone into production quickly but I think they learned their lesson. Well, I hope so at least.
 

BumRush

Member
Weekend Studio Estimates

1) Transformers: The Last Knight - ??
2 - Tie) Cars 3 - $25.175M - $100M total
2 - Tie) Wonder Woman - $25.175M - $318M total
4) 47 Meters Down - $7.4M (-57%) - $24M total
5) The Mummy - $5.8M - $68M total
6) All Eyez on Me - $5.8M - $39M total
7) Pirates of the Caribbean 5 - $5.2M - $160M total
8) Rough Night - ??
9) Captain Underpants - $4.2M - $66M total
10) Guardians of the Galaxy 2 - $3.0M - $380M total

Only a 57% drop for 47M? Lol i expected 80%
 

ArmGunar

Member
I'm glad they're taking their time. The DCEU will make billions for them once it's in full gear but imagine what the previous movies could have made with WW's legs. They could have written Suicide Squad 2 or Sirens in 6 weeks and gone into production quickly but I think they learned their lesson. Well, I hope so at least.

There will be big announces at SDCC this year for DC titles !
I want a plan for 2019-2021 with release dates

I really hope Umberto Gonzales is right, because I don't want WB to wait for JL's reactions before deciding/announcing their plan (especially for The Flash, Cyborg standalones)
 

kswiston

Member
Biggest second weekend drops of all time for films released in 2000+ venues

1) Ooogieloves - 90.1%
2) Collide - 88.5% (this happened this year, but no one cared)
3) Gigli - 81.9%
4) Friday the 13th - 80.4%
5) All Eyez on Me - 78.0%
 

suaveric

Member
There will be big announces at SDCC this year for DC titles !
I want a plan for 2019-2021 with release dates

I really hope Umberto Gonzales is right, because I don't want WB to wait for JL's reactions before deciding/announcing their plan (especially for The Flash, Cyborg standalones)

They can't wait for the Justice League reaction. These movies need months of preproduction before they even start filming. Cameras have to be rolling early next year if they want 2 or 3 DC films out in 2019. Which means things will have to enter pre production early this fall.
 

kswiston

Member
$265M worldwide opening for Transformers 5.

Pretty terrible outside of China (which was $125M+) EDIT: It looks like Paramount is saying $123M for China.
 

vinnygambini

Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
Weekend Studio Estimates

1) Transformers: The Last Knight - $45.3M - $69M total
2 - Tie) Cars 3 - $25.175M (-53%) - $100M total
2 - Tie) Wonder Woman - $25.175M (-39%) - $318M total
4) 47 Meters Down - $7.4M (-34%) - $24M total
5) The Mummy - $5.8M (-60%) - $68M total
6) All Eyez on Me - $5.8M (-78%) - $39M total
7) Pirates of the Caribbean 5 - $5.2M (-42%) - $160M total
8) Rough Night - ??
9) Captain Underpants - $4.2M (40%) - $66M total
10) Guardians of the Galaxy 2 - $3.0M (-41%) - $380M total

And WW officially has the highest grossing DCCU movie, domestically speaking, correct?

Also, holy shit at that 4th week drop...I haven't seent holds like that since...since...
 

kswiston

Member
China's opening seems good on the surface, but internal weekend holds are pointing to a pretty sizable decrease from Transformers 4.

With the way films have been holding this year, $250M in China might be optimistic.
 
Yeah, 5 will likely break the trend of Bayformers making a billion. I don't see any way that holds internationally, and you're not seeing a big weekly increase in the US, especially with DM3/Baby Driver/Spider-Man/Apes coming soon
 

shintoki

sparkle this bitch
Yeah, 5 will likely break the trend of Bayformers making a billion. I don't see any way that holds internationally, and you're not seeing a big weekly increase in the US, especially with DM3/Baby Driver/Spider-Man/Apes coming soon

It won't even be getting near, seems down between 40-60% in most places and it's not going to have any legs.
 

kswiston

Member
Yeah, 5 will likely break the trend of Bayformers making a billion. I don't see any way that holds internationally, and you're not seeing a big weekly increase in the US, especially with DM3/Baby Driver/Spider-Man/Apes coming soon

Forget about $1B.

Over/Under is $700M
 
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