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Nintendo Switch Online app now available on most Google Play and App Stores

Apathy

Member
It's just baffling that they didn't partner with someone to make a built in voice app into the system or even have DeNA make a switch internal voice app just like this phone one and have the phone app as a choice if users wanted it.
 

Kuni

Member
This is simply awful. I can't even begin to understand how this happened.

Easily one of the biggest misses in the industry I've seen. Utterly bizarre and disappointing.
 

llehuty

Member
I guess they now have created a good selling point for the inevitable online capabilities on the Switch 2?

They shouldn't have bothered with the app and just take the L and partnered with discord or something.
 

Neff

Member
As someone who can't even download the app due to my phone's incompatibility, here's how I see it.

The idea of integrating matchmaking into a dedicated phone app is actually pretty smart. People dick around on their phones all the time while playing games, and despite whatever pro/con dual screen bullshit Nintendo is pushing at the time of writing, two screens does have its place in gaming.

However locking features to said app (in addition to generally fucking up the day one functionality of it) is a piss-poor way to go about it.

If this was handled better, and more importantly, if it was optional, I think people would be much, much more receptive to the idea.

As it is, Nintendo deserves this mouthful of shit.
 

Apathy

Member
Hopefully the bad press snowballs enough to the point that it spooks shareholders into forcing their hand on a better solution. Or something.

It's Nintendo, the stock that goes up for seemingly random reasons. This won't change anything, they'll chalk it up to a few people complaining. Just look at the rating the app is getting right now for proof that die hard fans would give 5 stars to a poop in a box if Nintendo put it out.

If the ps5 and Xbox two did this, they would laughed off the adult table and no one would ever take them seriously
 
Nintendo are a infuriating company, capable of true greatness yet still make baffling choices. No way supporting a service like this financially in future.
 

KingSnake

The Birthday Skeleton
Can you create private lobbies directly from the app at least if you can send the invites only from it?

Or can you do something from start to finish that doesn't involve unnecessarily switching between Switch and phone

Someone posted a link here and it opened a web page. No idea if that would allow one to log into the Nintendo account or something.

That link was opening a webpage that was trying to link to the app I think. So I think you need the app to accept the invite.
 
iOS 9 works on iPhones going all the way back to the 4S.

If you're using an iPhone 4, that phone is now over seven years old. I'm sorry to hear that you can't use the app but 7 years is ancient in the world of phone tech.
Wellyou know it wouldn't be an issue at all if it was on the Switch, that way everyone could use voice chat regardless of what phone they have. This app shit is not okay.
 
Why do people keep saying this? Yes it is. The jack is perfectly accessible when the Switch is docked, and it's also active (for audio output). I don't understand what you're saying. Is it that it's far away? That will differ for each person, and is no different from using headphones with any other console (unless you use the controller jack).

There is no headphone jack on other consoles. Most have HDMI or optical audio out. The solution for using headphones that Microsoft and Sony have provided doesn't ask that you run a 10 foot cord across your floor. They included 3.5mm headphone jacks on their wireless controllers that ship in the box so that you can get almost wireless sound.

Edit: if you're suggesting that running wired headphones from the Switch dock to where you are sitting is a "solution," you're crazy. Especially considering how light the Switch is (even when docked), one trip over that cable and everything is fucked.
 

jroc74

Phone reception is more important to me than human rights
There is no headphone jack on other consoles. Most have HDMI or optical audio out. The solution for using headphones that Microsoft and Sony have provided doesn't ask that you run a 10 foot cord across your floor. They included 3.5mm headphone jacks on their wireless controllers that ship in the box so that you can get almost wireless sound.

Edit: if you're suggesting that running wired headphones from the Switch dock to where you are sitting is a "solution," you're crazy. Especially considering how light the Switch is (even when docked), one trip over that cable and everything is fucked.

Thats because they Switch doubles as a handheld....

Which takes me back to an opinion I had for months that its a handheld first n foremost. Despite what Nintendo and some ppl say. Everything about it, even this app says it.

I really do think Nintendo should have put audio jacks in the joy cons. If lil free phones that you can get for low income ppl have it, the joy cons can too. Some need adapters for 3.5mm but its still available.
 
Thats because they Switch doubles as a handheld....

Which takes me back to an opinion I had for months that its a handheld first n foremost. Despite what Nintendo and some ppl say. Everything about it, even this app says it.

I really do think Nintendo should have put audio jacks in the joy cons. If lil free phones that you can get for low income ppl have it, the joy cons can too. Some need adapters for 3.5mm but its still available.

Eh... I personally don't want audio jacks built into the JoyCon. However, I really don't understand why they couldn't just support bluetooth headsets...
 
Thats because they Switch doubles as a handheld....

Which takes me back to an opinion I had for months that its a handheld first n foremost. Despite what Nintendo and some ppl say. Everything about it, even this app says it.

I really do think Nintendo should have put audio jacks in the joy cons. If lil free phones that you can get for low income ppl have it, the joy cons can too. Some need adapters for 3.5mm but its still available.

You know what handheld doesnt have this problem?

The Vita
 

ianpm31

Member
Not only the online aspect but why did Nintendo not include an ethernet port on the switch? I get no signal when the modem is only 20 ft away yet every other electronic device including my ps4 picks it up fine. So now I had to go buy a 25 dollar ethernet port add-on just to play online. It's ridiculous
 
So what would have been the ideal solution. OS level voice chat on the Switch, with a headphone jack in the controller?

What would have been the issue with this from Nintendo's perspective, cost? Marginal system performance? I can't see any issue big enough that would have justified this insane solution.

Is there a chance that this has all come about because Nintendo simply didn't think about online until far too late in the game?

My guess is being able to game online anywhere via mobile internet. I guess they consider it more stable/reliable than wi-fi hotspots?
 

jts

...hate me...
I must concede. This whole thing is infuriating. All it takes is software expertise and they could make a banging system with this app:

-completely free text messaging among Switch friends
-cross-game chat / party chat
-voice chat backgrounding

This was the minimum I expected when I learned about the dedicated online play smartphone app. Honestly it would have been amazing even without the features on the Switch itself. I don't care much about mixing in-game audio with voice chat, can just hear the in-game from TV and VC from the earbuds (or even just one earbud) like I do with the PS4.

That's why the idea of an app never bothered me, because DeNa are supposed to be these online whizes? Turns out the app is so poor, relies on per-game implementations for neat things and has serious limitations. God damn it.

Doesn't mean I don't want them to bring the functionality to the Switch itself.

I'd put it this way:

Right now I rate this whole thing 3/10 (that's already taking into account it's all free for now). Fix the app properly and it would be 8/10. Bring functionality to the Switch itself and it's a 10/10.

What I hope now is for a lot of noise in order to make Nintendo start fixing this mess before the real launch in 2018.
 

Scum

Junior Member
I must concede. This whole thing is infuriating. All it takes is software expertise and they could make a banging system with this app:

-completely free text messaging among Switch friends
-cross-game chat / party chat
-voice chat backgrounding

This was the minimum I expected when I learned about the dedicated online play smartphone app. Honestly it would have been amazing even without the features on the Switch itself. I don't care much about mixing in-game audio with voice chat, can just hear the in-game from TV and VC from the earbuds (or even just one earbud) like I do with the PS4.

That's why the idea of an app never bothered me, because DeNa are supposed to be these online whizes? Turns out the app is so poor, relies on per-game implementations for neat things and has serious limitations. God damn it.

Doesn't mean I don't want them to bring the functionality to the Switch itself.

I'd put it this way:

Right now I rate this whole thing 3/10 (that's already taking into account it's all free for now). Fix the app properly and it would be 8/10. Bring functionality to the Switch itself and it's a 10/10.

What I hope now is for a lot of noise in order to make Nintendo start fixing this mess before the real launch in 2018.

There's a Feedback option in the settings. Use it to your heart's content.
 

Effect

Member
I still don't understand why the app functions the way it does. It's not Nintendo's first app. If DNeA did it, it makes even less sense.


Not only the online aspect but why did Nintendo not include an ethernet port on the switch? I get no signal when the modem is only 20 ft away yet every other electronic device including my ps4 picks it up fine. So now I had to go buy a 25 dollar ethernet port add-on just to play online. It's ridiculous
$25!? You should be able to get one for less then 10. Any generic should work. Check the descriptions on Amazon. Many say if they work with the Wii or Wii U. Those will work with the Switch. I think I only paid a little over 10 with tax. Maybe not even that.
 

NimbusD

Member
Hot dang, you value online voice chat pretty highly!

For me personally, this would be on-par with Nintendo saying that Netflix is on Switch but it works like Chromecast. Only allowing you to play videos on Switch that you start via the apps on your phone. It's something that I should be able to do on the device and it'd be a great value add, but I have plenty of other options.

It's so bizarre to me that people make communicating with the people you're playing online with sound like some niche target audience that people should be thankful they even sort of are catering to... It
 

Scum

Junior Member
I still don't understand why the app functions the way it does. It's not Nintendo's first app. If DNeA did it, it makes any less sense.



$25!? You should be able to get one for less then 10. Any generic should work. Check the descriptions on Amazon. Many say if they work with the Wii or Wii U. Those will work with the Switch. I think I only paid a little over 10 with tax. Maybe not even that.
It'll probably become a great companion app/Activity log but voice chat/communication aspect will be shite until fixed. Then again, maybe DeNA are not involved... 🤔
 

lt519

Member
A lot of people on gaf are out of touch.

Yeah, sadly my group of friends mostly aren't interested in the fun online Nintendo games because of the chat. We love playing online just to chat and catch up, but the lack of party system, etc on Nintendo kills the chance they'll pick up something like Splatoon 2.
 

Sapiens

Member
Oh, my car! This is the worst possible state the app could have been in. They took a bad idea and executed it poorly!
 

cclittle

Neo Member
You know what handheld doesnt have this problem?

The Vita

Ugh this just reminded me that the Vita Killzone (and I'm sure many other Vita games) had perfectly fine voice chat on a handheld 100 years ago. The more I think about it the dumber this Nintendo app is...

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It's so bizarre to me that people make communicating with the people you're playing online with sound like some niche target audience that people should be thankful they even sort of are catering to... It

I mean, for me personally online chat isn't a huge deal. I believe I correctly stated as much in my response. There's a key difference between expressing personal preference and trying to impose that preference on others. I was not doing the latter. Chill.
 

PR_rambo

Banned
Just use discord guys. Don't even need to wait for Nintendo to get their shit together.


EDIT. Holy shit is this the only way to que up with friends??
 
EDIT. Holy shit is this the only way to que up with friends??

You either have to jump in right when they queue, or have a private room.

There's no way to create a group with your friends and then queue up for Ranked or Regular Play. (That's a Splatoon 2 problem, btw, no necessary an app one.)
 

Jumeira

Banned
It's amazing how Nintendo always has to do something weird and fucking annoying with online. Such an odd company.
MS made huge strides to overcome a bunch of hurdles and create the template for console online, system wide gamertag, friends list, invites, voice chat all baked into the OS, touching every game with consistency and reliability, with cross party and background chat, Nintendo see that ignore it all and replace it with friends codes. Then they break voice chat standards on phones and consoles, screw up account system implementation, provide no cloud saves they just seem devoid of strong technical leadership when it comes to services. It's like they're overwhelmed with standards from 10 years ago that they're still trying catch up to standards set then, forget what we expect today.
 

jts

...hate me...
MS made huge strides to overcome a bunch of hurdles and create the template for console online, system wide gamertag, friends list, invites, voice chat all baked into the OS, touching every game with consistency and reliability, with cross party and background chat, Nintendo see that ignore it all and replace it with friends codes. Then they break voice chat standards on phones and consoles, screw up account system implementation, provide no cloud saves they just seem devoid of strong technical leadership when it comes to services. It's like they're overwhelmed with standards from 10 years ago that they're still trying catch up to standards set then, forget what we expect today.
I'll be honest here. It looks more like they just don't give a fuck, which is probably worse.
 
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