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The Kiseki / Trails (of the Sky/Zero/Ao/Sen/Etc) Community Thread: SPOILERTAGS OR DIE

Nyoro SF

Member
I would also be surprised if Estelle and Joshua show up. Not saying I wouldn't be happy to see them but I don't think they need to grace us with their presence considering where the plot is going. It would be much more important to me to see Lloyd and Elie again considering how Crossbell is involved.
 

PK Gaming

Member
A proper Fie vs Shirley fight is kinda already in the cards. We might just get bamboozled by promotion material but that was exactly part of my point. There is reason to be optimistic.We will also likely get Laura vs Stahlritter at least if not more.
As there has been more and more stuff coming out a lot of concerns I've seen should be eased(not necessarily squashed just toned down) based on what the promotion material says + looking back at how other games handled themselves that didn't get fucked by various dev difficulties not relating to the game content itself. So based on what I've caught following all the dengekis so far stuff like class 7 getting proper moments and stuff to do has only become more likely. And I've been the person that originally though we would only have the people that didn't get storylines before involved majorly but in contrary all of them seem to be getting involved. I was also part of the camp thinking a couple different people likely going to get the shaft with the huge volume but as I've learned more that absolutely also doesn't need to be the case.
Don't click this if you don't want Gaius spoilers:
Let's take him as an example his whole potential storyline of possibly becoming a squire of the gralsritter/or dominion itself doesn't need to properly resolve in Sen 3 alone. You do the reveal, give him a super badass moment and make it clear he's going to be a remaining variable involved with the church in further games and I totally believe that would be satisfying enough and wouldn't take all that much story space away at all.
urgh. That's why it's so tiring people not seeing the things that are being said and it's frustrating when people constantly point out "hey look evidence is building up that is pushing against a couple of worries a lot of people had" are just ignored.

It just feels like I'm repeating stuff I said ages ago again but I hope this time people take notice.

That's true, I forgot about
Fie and Laura. And you're probably right about Gaius too.

I guess we'll have to wait and see.
 

Thud

Member
Cold Steel 2 did make me appreciate SC even more. That game did all the introductions and finished on a high note.

CS2 ending spoilers

Well even without the interruptions, the mechanisms surrounding the sept-terrion are quite complex. The infernal castle might just be a way to activate some of the septium veins that run underneath elsewhere. However the Testa Rossa obviously released the hollow trial. Something that shouldn't have been active if everything went according to vita's plan.

There's also meaning in the divine knights battling each other. This series makes me retake the things that may be poor design or bad writing at face value.
 

PK Gaming

Member
So this is pretty cool:

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Erheller

Member
So this is pretty cool:

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There's something about the CS3 designs that make Class VII look so much more mature and confident than their CS2 and especially their CS1 designs. I'm not sure if it's the pose or clothes or something else, but I'm really digging them for the most part.
 

PK Gaming

Member
There's something about the CS3 designs that make Class VII look so much more mature and confident than their CS2 and especially their CS1 designs. I'm not sure if it's the pose or clothes or something else, but I'm really digging them for the most part.

Their art and especially stances are miles better (just compare CS1 Fie's stiff stance to her CS3 incarnation)

Really impressed with how they turned out
 

Jiraiza

Member
Rean looks like he gained a few pounds. The fact that Millium doesn't get a comparison is kind of sad, game-wise. Forever a loli, I suppose. Fie's outfit is still hilarious to look at. At least she's not sporting that awful one bright-colored shoulder pad that a lot of the bracers seem to have.
 

Loz246789

Member

Whilst I have to say I've never been a huge fan of Elise as a character, her design is consistently on point.
That being said, ALFIN. WHAT HAPPENED. If I couldn't see her legs, I'd say she was on stilts, that's quite a growth spurt. It's honestly a little weird, especially with all the lolis in the cast who haven't changed at all.
 
That being said, ALFIN. WHAT HAPPENED. If I couldn't see her legs, I'd say she was on stilts, that's quite a growth spurt. It's honestly a little weird, especially with all the lolis in the cast who haven't changed at all.

Obviously, you haven't seen Cedric yet. The twins aren't called the Imperial Treasures for nothing.
 

Loz246789

Member
Obviously, you haven't seen Cedric yet. The twins aren't called the Imperial Treasures for nothing.
O_O

Welp, even if I have no idea what's going on with Crossbell, CS3 is setting up to blow my mind with just the new character designs.(People mentioned Estelle and Joshua earlier, and I can't really think of a good excuse to see them, but I would do much to see their designs around this point in time)
 
I have like , no complains at all with the new designs.

FAN- TAS - TIC , they are.

Well i had no complains with the CS2 designs , but this evolution is even better

Reinforce my belief that Falcom know what they are doing
 

neoemonk

Member
I really need to get around to playing this. I have Trails 1 and 2 on Steam. I should just dedicate the next year of my life to Trails and the Witcher trilogy, both RPG series that I really want to play but I haven't because I know they will be a huge time commitment.
 

Loz246789

Member
I really need to get around to playing this. I have Trails 1 and 2 on Steam. I should just dedicate the next year of my life to Trails and the Witcher trilogy, both RPG series that I really want to play but I haven't because I know they will be a huge time commitment.

Doooo iiit!

... But uh, to be serious for a second, this series is definitely a time sink, but there's a lot of flexibility in just how much you get invested past a certain point. They're long games, sure, but you don't *have* to do all the sidequests, or talk to all the people repeatedly, and the main story is still plenty satisfying without the world building that provides. You don't even have to binge a game over the span of a few days if you don't want to, they're fairly slow paced, albeit engaging, games for the most part.
That being said once you're hooked, all bets are off.
 

fuzaco

Member
Finally finished TitS 3! Didn't love it as much as FC/SC, but it was still great. Kevin was a great protagonist, and his backstory was surprisingly dark.
Talking about dark,
what the fuck Star Door 15? Didn't expect something like this from this series for sure.

I was not a big fan of the whole dungeon-crawling aspect of the game, but the doors were great, so it still had a nice gameplay/story balance. I also liked the final scene,
with everyone saying goodbye to each other, and I loved Estelle's dialogue with Renne.

Looking forward to CS, but I'm sad that Zero/Ao is not out in english.
 
Well, except for Fie and Millium. It's like they doubled down on the terribleness.

And yes, your avatar is amazing.

Fie's goofy outfits are to sell costumes, Im sure of it; it never fits her.

I really need to get around to playing this. I have Trails 1 and 2 on Steam. I should just dedicate the next year of my life to Trails and the Witcher trilogy, both RPG series that I really want to play but I haven't because I know they will be a huge time commitment.

It's two of the best narratives in gaming, and also two of the few that can keep a narrative up in planned connected sequels.
 
I really need to get around to playing this. I have Trails 1 and 2 on Steam. I should just dedicate the next year of my life to Trails and the Witcher trilogy, both RPG series that I really want to play but I haven't because I know they will be a huge time commitment.
On the one hand, even with a full year, that's going to require a lot of time. On the other hand, both series are pretty much at the top of the list of my favorite video game narratives.

Do it!
 

PK Gaming

Member
Whilst I have to say I've never been a huge fan of Elise as a character, her design is consistently on point.
That being said, ALFIN. WHAT HAPPENED. If I couldn't see her legs, I'd say she was on stilts, that's quite a growth spurt. It's honestly a little weird, especially with all the lolis in the cast who haven't changed at all.

With all the lolis? Everyone's grown up!

Barring Millium, but that was expected
 

Loz246789

Member
She comes across more like a ridiculously short woman than a loli

Yeah I like Towa too much as a character to lump her in with the loli crowd. She's short, and she's cute, but that's pretty much the extent of it? Admittedly I'm not well versed in loli culture. Maybe that's all you need and I'm in denial. BUT she doesn't have child like habits, or cat ears, and she's a highly successful student... person... whatever she's doing in CS3. So there's that.
 
She comes across more like a ridiculously short woman than a loli

Oh, I was looking at it more from the "everybody grew" angle rather than the loli angle. I mean, she started from Rean thinking "I thought she's younger than me" and - if her Tokyo Xanadu is any indication - at 23 she'd look exactly the same.
 

Gu4n

Member
Millium and Altina can't grow up
and I suspect Towa is a fairy like the ones mentioned in Erebonian Folklore.
 

PK Gaming

Member
Oh, I was looking at it more from the "everybody grew" angle rather than the loli angle. I mean, she started from Rean thinking "I thought she's younger than me" and - if her Tokyo Xanadu is any indication - at 23 she'd look exactly the same.

Ah, right. It's doubtful her appearance will ever change.

Millium and Altina can't grow up
and I suspect Towa is a fairy like the ones mentioned in Erebonian Folklore.

Yeah, she mentions something along those lines in one of her bond events.
 

Marow

Member
As someone who will first jump into Cold Steel with the Steam release, I must say I quite like the idea of the characters changing outfits and growing up throughout the games. It seems really endearing and I quite like the designs.

... that said, I'm gonna have such a hard time choosing which characters to play with ;_;
 

Morrigan Stark

Arrogant Smirk
Those new designs are pretty good for the most part, but I am still annoyed by their sheer refusal to let the girls wear pants.

Like, come the fuck on already. Especially Laura, she's a swordswoman, GIVE THAT POOR WOMAN PANTS PLEASE

And I'm gonna pretend those boots are finally flat-heeled because fuck high heels forever
 
Main problem with new designs, more than Gaius getting that typical Erebonian trifold-bangs hair (which could sort of make sense if they bring it up in a reunion scene?), is needless belts. Some of the new belts are simply overkill, even if the characters' silhouettes and color schemes still work well. I also dislike the new illustrator (they also worked on Tokyo Xanadu's characters), at least for promo art of characters like Agate who has slimmed-down eyes and a lack of detail/shading that's common in these illustrations, even compared to the previous artist.

Now that I'm done nitpicking, these designs are bretty good and I have other things to worry about.

I think Margarita is more like a fairy.
Nope. The Erebonian Folklore chapter describing fairies is specific enough about them being small and hardly growing physically after a certain period. Margarita does have the right personality, though, which
Towa
doesn't exhibit.
I'm suspicious of Millium and Altina somehow being fairies, however they were incubated or designed
.
 

Tonton

Member
Those new designs are pretty good for the most part, but I am still annoyed by their sheer refusal to let the girls wear pants.

Like, come the fuck on already. Especially Laura, she's a swordswoman, GIVE THAT POOR WOMAN PANTS PLEASE

And I'm gonna pretend those boots are finally flat-heeled because fuck high heels forever
At least Laura doesn't have a skirt this time
Emma could have used a pair of pants and go full Misty tho :p

I'm sure only Fie and Millium are escaping the high heels
But they're making up for it with other garbage
 

Jiraiza

Member
Main problem with new designs, more than Gaius getting that typical Erebonian trifold-bangs hair (which could sort of make sense if they bring it up in a reunion scene?), is needless belts. Some of the new belts are simply overkill, even if the characters' silhouettes and color schemes still work well. I also dislike the new illustrator (they also worked on Tokyo Xanadu's characters), at least for promo art of characters like Agate who has slimmed-down eyes and a lack of detail/shading that's common in these illustrations, even compared to the previous artist.

The artist seems to suffer not only from a case of sameface, but samehairstyle. Unless it's a new fashion trend in Erebonia with the bangs for guys or something.
 
Love the evolution of the character designs. Everyone not looking so samey was one of my favorite things about CS2 coming from CS1.
Having everyone always wear the school uniform made the group look boring.
Absolutely love all the female characters in CS3.
Really glad to hear Sara is in the commercial, love her so much.
I haven't watched it because I'm not done with CS2 but knowing that Sara is in it makes it even harder to resist, did she get a complete redesign as well?

Also, the new female character looks great, the amount of waifus is out of control lol.
 
I'm replaying through FC because why not and there's a bit of dialogue that struck me (FC and SC spoilers)
Joshua thinks he's met Kloe before when you first see her. Is it ever expanded upon? I assume it would be related to his past as an Enforcer, but I can't remember either game ever spelling anything out about a mission related to Kloe or the royal family?

I'm not far into 3rd, so it might be explained there, I guess.
 

Loz246789

Member
I'm replaying through FC because why not and there's a bit of dialogue that struck me (FC and SC spoilers)
Joshua thinks he's met Kloe before when you first see her. Is it ever expanded upon? I assume it would be related to his past as an Enforcer, but I can't remember either game ever spelling anything out about a mission related to Kloe or the royal family?

I'm not far into 3rd, so it might be explained there, I guess.

It's been a really long time, so I'm not sure, but I can think of a few of explanations:

Kloe was in the background of some previous scene, and Joshua just happened to notice.
Being royalty, Joshua just happened to know of Klaudia's existence through Enforcery connections, but was never able to put two and two together before it just became irrelevant.
Kloe reminds him of the Queen, who was involved in covering up the Hamel incident.
Kloe reminds him of his actual sister, being... uh, female? Nice? I dunno what she looks like, so this could be stretching it.

OR, it's an unresolved plot point, leading into TRAILS IN THE SKY: EPISODE 4, coming in 20XX. (Probably not)
 

Jolkien

Member
As someone who will first jump into Cold Steel with the Steam release, I must say I quite like the idea of the characters changing outfits and growing up throughout the games. It seems really endearing and I quite like the designs.

... that said, I'm gonna have such a hard time choosing which characters to play with ;_;

The game does a good job at forcing you to use pretty much everybody.
 
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