Some of Spineshank was pretty decent. I quite liked the first Dry Kill Logic as well.
What would you call Limp Bizkit then? They are what I consider the quintessential example in the genre.Thats what so stupid about the term nobody claimed they were part of it. It painted with to broad a brush. System of a Down, Deftones, Korn, Limp Biscuit, Linkin Park, Slipknot, Static X etc..... were all called Nu Metal at some point and the majority if asked would claim they weren't Nu Metal
Nu Metal feels like one of those genres people specifically hate due to it being old but recent and being angsty. Much like Nickelback, the hive mind has decided it sucks, instead of merely being forgettable or average.
Some criticism seems to be targetted at the lyrical content. I'll agree that it's not super thought-provoking, but neither is most mainstream music of the current era. Look at how much acclaim Closer by The Chainsmokers got. That song's lyrics blow. It's just how it is.
I say embrace your inner teenager and crank up some Limp Bizkit. Just... don't dress like Fred Durst when you do it. Also go in with the expectation that people will judge you.
What would you call Limp Bizkit then? They are what I consider the quintessential example in the genre.
Slipknot
Korn
Coal Chamber
Early Deftones
Limp Bizkit
SOAD
Mudvayne
They're a big heavy but mostly a melodic hard rock band. Still nu-metal since they came in the 2001 time frame. It's Flaw.The Linkin Park guy passing away recently led me down a path of revisiting that shitty genre my friends and I were all into in high school. Turns out the internet is right and almost everything I've relistened to is garbage with the exception of Slipknot's first 2 albums (haven't listened past there). Yeah the lyrics are awful but at least its fun to listen to and amps me up - (sic) was a surprise in how much I enjoyed it.
Can you guys make a case for any other nu-metal bands still worth listening to?
Aside from Slipknot I've tried the following who were on varying degrees of bad:
Linkin Park
Limp Bizkit
Mudvayne
Deftones, even thought they stated themselves that they weren't.
Does the first Slipknot album counts as numetal?
Linkin Park were easy to make fun of back in the day but Hybrid Theory was legitimately a great album that still stands the test of time. When Linkin Park were still considered nu-metal they were actually a good band, even if Meteora was a fairly predictable followup.
They're a big heavy but mostly a melodic hard rock band. Still nu-metal since they came in the 2001 time frame. It's Flaw.
Some of my faves from them
"Only the Strong"
"My Letter"
"Recognize"
They were mildly popular in the early 00's but their biggest success was only from Payback. They split in 2004, the singer joined up with a few others to create another band that did one album and also split, but he and some of his original mates are back in 2016 and made a new album. The first album is fantastic and I still listen to it to this day. The second is pretty good and has a few great tracks. Newest album I'm still mixed on, has some decent stuff, and can't say I hate anything. I'm glad the singer, Chris Volz, has seemingly gotten over his alcoholism and gotten his head on straight. I have him on Facebook and follow some tours they do now.
Stuck Mojo and (Hed)pe were legit. i still think the first (Hed)pe album is quite good.
I always felt like Nu-Metal's sole purpose was to get people hooked and interested in the heavier genres of metal. Sort of like a sucky gateway drug for the good, talented stuff.
But bands like System of a Down have an unique sound and were doing some great stuff back in the day. I'll even admit to having enjoyed the first Slipknot album before they started completely phoning it in.
Also, is Sepultura considered Nu-Metal?
Nu Metal feels like one of those genres people specifically hate due to it being old but recent and being angsty. Much like Nickelback, the hive mind has decided it sucks, instead of merely being forgettable or average.
Some criticism seems to be targetted at the lyrical content. I'll agree that it's not super thought-provoking, but neither is most mainstream music of the current era.
Linkin Park - Meteora
Incubus- Morning View
System Of A Down - Toxicity
System Of A Down - Hypnotize
System Of A Down - Mezmerize
Not to be a Metal elitst prick but Most Nu-Metal was cheesy.
Linkin Park were easy to make fun of back in the day but Hybrid Theory was legitimately a great album that still stands the test of time. When Linkin Park were still considered nu-metal they were actually a good band, even if Meteora was a fairly predictable followup.
Interesting thing about a lot of nu-metal bands is I don't think many of them ended up becoming bands that were evocative and informed of both the growth of their fans and the growth of themselves. Perhaps Deftones is the only exception. Deftones' early material is considered nu metal but it hasn't aged as well as their releases starting with White Pony - even if I would argue that to some extent they held onto those nu metal roots throughout their discography in multiple ways.
Korn's material is something I'm more ambivalent about - in contrast to Linkin Park I actually think their first three albums, yes, including Follow The Leader, have aged really poorly. I think the only album two great albums of the "early era" (i.e before Head and Silveria left) was Issues and Untouchables. As music makers it's the most the band has ever displayed forward-thinking creativity to positive results. Unfortunately not a lot of the catalog after that is very reflective of it either.
I wouldn't say System of a Down passes as Nu Metal. If anything it's more fair to lump them into the increasingly boring and non-descript term of "alternative metal", which is perhaps equally as hard to identify. Same goes for Static-X but I'd say they had it fairly easy; they leaned more towards Nine Inch Nails styled industrial metal.
Papa Roach - Infest
Yes, but like any style or genre of art there are exceptions.
But overall, has there ever been a style of music that misjudged what would be tasteful 20 years later more than nu-metal? I say this as someone who wore JNCOS and korn shirts in middle school. I got rekt lol.
Disturbed - Ten Thousand Fists
Static X - Cannibal
I will admit, listening to Break Stuff every so often can get the blood boiling, in a good way though.
It sure worked for the crowd at Woodstock 99.
They didn't rap but they had that same big crunchy down-tuned guitar aesthetic, Rammstein.
They didn't rap but they had that same big crunchy down-tuned guitar aesthetic, Rammstein.
I feel a lot of people are considering any late 90's rock band as nu-metal...
Rammstein is much more post industrial.
Some might event define as pop-Laibach
Some of Spineshank was pretty decent. I quite liked the first Dry Kill Logic as well.
Spineshank's first album is legit great. They took a huge nosedive after that though.
Wow, someone else remembers Spineshank. I liked them too. Also, remember, the same band head/singer made a band called Silent Civilian and the first album is pretty good.