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[StrongBlackVine]

Well this just reinforces my prior decision to wait for a good sale before purchase. I bought the first game at launch and didn't get around to playing it until a year later so I think I'll wait until I get this for 50% off or more...

It will be half off or more by Thanksgiving weekend.

 

[etrain911]

I'm out. I bought the first game at launch, it was mediocre with amazing potential for something really special. This is not what I meant when I thought that.

 

[Linkin112]

I really want this trend to stop, but people keep buying them when they're available, so of course everyone else will continue to copy this approach...

Gears 4 was ruined for me with all the loot box garbage.

 

[Xumbrega]

Wow, really, Warner?

 

[Joco]

People will buy it and this is the year when all AAA games have it. Except for Nintendo and some PC titles.

Fact of life. The era of gambling has begun.

On a even more serious note I really think government intervention is in order. This has gone too far and is out of control. These games are marketed towards kids and teens while avoiding all gambling regulation and law.

Seriously. It's time for some regulations.

 

[Nekketsu Kõha]

Wow, really, Warner?

WB EA ACTIVISION UBISOFT take-two Microsoft, Blizzard, Sony? Who isn't.

 

[Coolluck]

I can't imagine this will have a huge impact on my experience with the game. Still, the sequel doesn't look improved enough to warrant money generating tactics like this.

 

[killatopak]

fuck loot boxes.

 

[Poppy]

can i buy hot outfits for shelob

 

[Xumbrega]

WB EA ACTIVISION UBISOFT take-two Microsoft, Sony? Who isn't.

On single-player games?

 

[Jeiiya]

Loot crates in single player games? Thanks WB. You saved gaming..

 

[StrongBlackVine]

WB EA ACTIVISION UBISOFT take-two Microsoft, Blizzard, Sony? Who isn't.

You forgot Nintendo with Amiibo locked content.

 

[Anung]

Cancelling my preorder then. I'm not supporting this shit no matter how much I enjoyed the first one.

 

[Nekketsu Kõha]

On single-player games?

Single/multi all games full priced using f2p mechanics revenue streams yes.

 

[Laughing Banana]

Developers who do these kinds of shit--purchasing stuff to obtain them faster--, I feel like they're spitting on their own handiwork, to be honest. It's like saying, oh these systems and gameplay that we made for you, they're worthless and time consuming so why not skip them and just buy the end reward with money to make you happier?

It feels like they have no pride in their own game.

 

[HP_Wuvcraft]

I will never understand the hate people have for optional in-game purchases.

 

[Nekketsu Kõha]

You forgot Nintendo with Amiibo locked content.

Not the same thing.

 

[exmachina64]

Good, I needed fewer games to play this year.

 

[ghostjoke]

Into the trash it goes.

 

[Trogdor1123]

For a single player game, this sort of stuff never really bothered me. But at the same time, I won't be touching any of it.

I'm excited for the game, but it'll be a solid summer sale game. October is the craziest month in a long while.

Same here, I don't like it but id rather have it in a single player game rather than an more game. I'd rather it didn't exist at all though. Maybe it will be like the mass effect 3 stuff? That wasn't too bad.

 

[carlsojo]

This is fine lol.

 

[StrongBlackVine]

Not the same thing.

It's fundamentally the same to me. It costs extra money and it alters gameplay.

 

[thehillissilent]

And... I'm going to wait for GOTY Edition.

And...I will be using a trainer on PC to cheat.

 

[Trup1aya]

Will buy and play game without touching anything premium...

Anyone who's into this kind of thing... more power to ya...

Game looks badass... I'm not about to skip it over some optional purchases.

 

[Generalpsyduck]

Not the same thing.

Yeah you have to buy a dumb statue to get amiibo content lol

 

[Velcro Fly]

I will never understand the hate people have for optional in-game purchases.

Because their availability inevitably fucks over whatever progression system that exists outside of them. Sure you can earn in game currency for this, but it's going to be way slower than it would have without the microtransactions attached. They have no incentive to not fuck over progression in order to get you to pay money. We as consumers have no reason to trust them to make things fair when money is able to be exchanged for progress.

 

[HowZatOZ]

It must have worked elsewhere already. Gaben's worst influence.

That was a multiplayer online game. This is a single-player RPG that is selling Orcs. Fucking Orcs in loot boxes. Shit is absurd.

 

[Lord of Castamere]

They need to announce free dlc. I hate the "have your cake and eat it too" mentality. A lot of games will have micros this year, but I believe this is the only one that will have a season pass on top of the micros. Except Destiny, but at least that's cosmetic micros. It's a disgusting practice.

 

[Bubbavelli]

Not the same thing.

Happy meal toys are a bit different this is true

 

[Duchess O'Death]

Not the same thing.

Yeah because amiibo content is worse.

Someone will defend this.

Well, people are defending content locked behind an amiibo.

 

[Nekketsu Kõha]

It's fundamentally the same to me. It costs extra money and it alters gameplay.

It isn't the same thing no matter what you think. It bothers you and you have every right to be. But this is about loot boxes microtransactions gambling mechanics and feeding upon addictive spending.

 

[Primus]

Fee 2 Pay strikes again. I sense an incoming Jimquisition.

 

[Velcro Fly]

Amiibo isn't gambling, minus maybe having to reset if you don't get the random Zelda item you want.

This is basically gambling. You pay money in the hopes you get items at or above the value (to you) of the money you just threw down. It is like throwing money down a bottomless hole.

 

[Nekketsu Kõha]

Yeah you have to buy a dumb statue to get amiibo content lol

Then don't buy it.

Happy meal toys are a bit different this is true

I don't buy happy meals so I wouldn't know.

 

[Trup1aya]

Because their availability inevitably fucks over whatever progression system that exists outside of them. Sure you can earn in game currency for this, but it's going to be way slower than it would have without the microtransactions attached. They have no incentive to not fuck over progression in order to get you to pay money. We as consumers have no reason to trust them to make things fair when money is able to be exchanged for progress.

Really, you have no idea how fast or slow the progression would have been sans-microtransactions.

The real question is- will players who dont buy MTs find the pacing enjoyable? The 'incentive' to not fuck over progression comes from a desire to sell the game to as many people as possible with full knowledge that most of them will NEVER even consider any in-game purchase.

 

[Evolved1]

I was going to buy this.

Now it's a laugh and "pass".

 

[Nekketsu Kõha]

Yeah because amiibo content is worse.



Well, people are defending content locked behind an amiibo.

Just gonna ignore you if you keep trying to derail the thread and topic. There are other threads discussing amiibo, quite a few actually.

 

[Estoc]

It's fundamentally the same to me. It costs extra money and it alters gameplay.

The difference between loot boxes and typical DLC is that the former has a potential to become an ongoing cost on the gamers(depends on luck and whether new content is added), while the latter is simply people buying more content for their game, an one-time purchase to expand on the game that you like.

Amiibo belongs in the DLC category since it's an one-time purchase, even if you have to buy a whole bunch of them, they are still individually one-time purchase, I don't have to rebuy my inklings just because I scanned their NFC once.

Anyway, I assume you're one of those people who hated expansion packs back in the days those words still have meaning?

 

[HP_Wuvcraft]

You all make me want to make DLC about complaining about DLC and the like.

Because their availability inevitably fucks over whatever progression system that exists outside of them. Sure you can earn in game currency for this, but it's going to be way slower than it would have without the microtransactions attached. They have no incentive to not fuck over progression in order to get you to pay money. We as consumers have no reason to trust them to make things fair when money is able to be exchanged for progress.

I forgot that players can see the future when DLC or micros are involved.

 

[ComputerBlue]

I enjoyed the first game, will wait for deep discount on this one. $20 max.

I've been playing a bit of Phone Destroyer lately and I have a feeling loot crates will somehow make their way into Fractured but Whole. Not really related to this game, but I can see it happening more and more often with SP games.

 

[Nekketsu Kõha]

You all make me want to make DLC about complaining about DLC and the like.



I forgot that players can see the future when DLC or micros are involved.

Great tag and posts so far /s lol

 

[Gator86]

Renting the shit out of this. It looks uninspired as hell and now loot boxes, maybe my least favorite game mechanic this generation.

 

[StrongBlackVine]

Amiibo isn't gambling, minus maybe having to reset if you don't get the random Zelda item you want.

This is basically gambling. You pay money in the hopes you get items at or above the value (to you) of the money you just threw down. It is like throwing money down a bottomless hole.

On the flip side you can get all the content without paying real currency and we don't know much of grind it take at this point to do it in this game. We do know that you are locked out of Amiibo content forever unless you buy it. Both are bad.

 

[Crossing Eden]

Unless the execs are idiots this likely won't affect the progression of the game and is mainly targeted at impatient people with lots of disposable income.

 

[AlexBasch]

For loot boxes opening reaction videos, that's why!

 

[Nekketsu Kõha]

Unless the execs are idiots this likely won't affect the progression of the game and is mainly targeted at impatient people with lots of disposable income.

Likely it will affect the progression. Of course hard to prove as we can only compare to games without but anyone assuming they don't design around their new revenue stream is incredibly naive. All f2p games do and mmo's fps games so why would they be any different. At the very least they put thought into it, first clue is that game probably doesn't allow cheats /console and spend time post launch patching exploits.

 

[Basileus777]

Well I'm out. I won't support gacha mechanics in single player games.

 

[Strangelove77]

Developers who do these kinds of shit--purchasing stuff to obtain them faster--, I feel like they're spitting on their own handiwork, to be honest. It's like saying, oh these systems and gameplay that we made for you, they're worthless and time consuming so why not skip them and just buy the end reward with money to make you happier?

It feels like they have no pride in their own game.

That's not typically a choice developers themselves make. It's often a publisher choice.

 

[Mechanized]

Interest in the game dropped to zero. Fuck off with this bullshit in a full price game.

 

[Estoc]

On the flip side you can get all the content without paying real currency and we don't know much of grind it take at this point to do it in this game. We do know that you are locked out of Amiibo content forever unless you buy it. Both are bad.

My experience with amiibo is brief, only Zelda and Splatoon 2, but in the former, I much prefer doing it without amiibo, while the items help, I feel they defeat the spirit of the game; while the latter, they aren't gears you can't get elsewhere, but I guess if you want them as fashion items, it could be annoying that they're locked behind amiibo.

They are still different from loot boxes though.

This whataboutism is just plain silly here.