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Steam monthly active users now at 67 million compared to 70 million for PSN
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Marty Chinn
Member
Not anymore...
Nemesis121
Member
Yup....doesn't matter to Sony/MS/Steam they counting numbers to brag...
Sweet Bellic
Member
They have a lock on most of the AAA/Indie space on PC, which is a minority of the total PC revenue.
League of Legends is separate, Blizzard has their own launcher, and, while Steam is making huge inroads in Asia, they have their own massive games and launchers there.
GOG? EAs store? Uplay? Windows store? League of legends?
If anything the PC market is extremely diverse.
pretty done
Member
It's really not. I doubt you do much PC gaming with statements like this though
In a nutshell. Steam isn't even close to a monopoly. With each year that passes that becomes ever more the case with all the different services / distribution platforms etc
It doesn't, though. 2 quick examples:
LoL has more monthly players alone.
Blizzard's client had 42 million in Q3 2016.
Also Steam is very small in comparison to competition in Asia.
Zap Rowsdower
Banned
You know how I can tell you don't play a lot of games on PC?
Mikey Jr.
Member
Yeah, you're using your PS4.
Steam auto logging you in doesn't mean you are using steam.
I have it installed and it auto logs me in, haven't opened steam in weeks.
Mass Effect
Member
Perhaps you should look up the definition of monopoly.
It wasn't always I don't think, but XBL lost active members a couple of years ago. It's stabilized I believe. There was a thread about it but I can't find it right now since I'm on mobile. I'd imagine the decline is a direct result of both Steam and Playstation's increased successes.
On the other hand, PSN has done nothing but grow, so it being ahead of XBL is no surprise these days.
I always thought it was kind of funny that Sony never went hard on the MAU number after Microsoft did.
Just to drive in the point that even if you were to pretend you're in a different race just because they were no longer reporting hardware sale and stuck to MAU, they were still technically losing that race too.
Just to drive in the point that even if you were to pretend you're in a different race just because they were no longer reporting hardware sale and stuck to MAU, they were still technically losing that race too.
Sad Affleck
Member
Valve gets it.
ShadowSwordmaster
Banned
Interesting to see what it is at by next year.
This will never happen.
Yeah - but apparently Steam is all that matters in these contests
"The age of [platform] is done"
Anyone with that stance on PC gets it. That's where the fun is!
Sad Affleck
Member
Dat Valve monopoly.
I think you're getting Steam confused with piracy. Luckily Steam is giving it a good run for its money.
Ricerocket
Member
This gen has been so good for Steam or PC gaming. PS4/X1 was a disappointment on the hardware/performance side thanks to AMD BUT the funny thing is AMD is also a provider of Ryzen recently for PC users which has been getting a lot of traction thus more potential Steam users.. With word of Jaguar continuing on the console space, Steam should easily grow more.
Z..
Member
North American perception of Microsoft's dimension in the industry is always amusing. I'm, of course, assuming you are from NA as I make this statement.
I doubt Valve is trying spin the #s with PR talk. They are actually the only gaming platform that shows the concurrent #s for every game minute by minute all around the world. Would be great if Sony, Nintendo and MS did the same. Unfortunately the communication from those companies is near nonexistant. Only time you ever hear from them anymore is when they release earning reports.
For anyone curious, here's the talk Alden Kroll's been doing here and there that features the slides this news is based on.
It's actually pretty old now and we had a thread about some of it a little over a month ago.
It's actually pretty old now and we had a thread about some of it a little over a month ago.
chromatic9
Member
Crazy numbers for afterlife gaming
Huge Succeeded
Banned
Steam offers me more for free as a user than any other gaming platform I use, so even if they were a monopoly the way you envision them to be... ¯\_(ツ
_/¯
Z..
Member
Curious what the 4th account is... I have 3 too for the same purpose (US/JP/EU).
Yeah Minecraft is really struggling for them. /s
bitbydeath
Gold Member
If your logging in online then accessing it then yes. The app used doesn't matter as it's all about the login to PSN servers.
ProBusinessgamer
Member
Both numbers are inflated, because we dont know what they count as active, or paying. Steam is also free, not the games...but other then that its free, while xbox live ans psn network is pay to do most of the play.
Valve is also a decent size company compared to Sony(only because they are rebuilding), but not a drip in MS pond, so i also dont understand some of the Valve praise when it comes to financials.
Valve is also a decent size company compared to Sony(only because they are rebuilding), but not a drip in MS pond, so i also dont understand some of the Valve praise when it comes to financials.
I hate this. Sales are already a joke compared to what they were, and I guess some kind of paywall/subscription is next.
Sigh this is why we can't have good things. Moving to GOG/Origin soon I guess.
In other news, PC gaming is dead lmao. A single PC game is 40 millions bigger than every Sony console combined.
Sigh this is why we can't have good things. Moving to GOG/Origin soon I guess.
In other news, PC gaming is dead lmao. A single PC game is 40 millions bigger than every Sony console combined.
Random Human
They were trying to grab your prize. They work for the mercenary. The masked man.
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what is this shit?
Sony smaller then Valve?
What drugs are you taking or what alternate universe did you come from
Valve is actually relatively open about this number, relative to their console counterparts. They count "Active Users" as someone who owns a game and has played a game within the last month. So "Total Users' is actually significantly higher.
I believe Valve is the most profitable company in the world per capita. Sony is a massive company.
Duchess O'Death
Member
Why would you think Xbox has larger MAU?
hanspampel
Banned
during the Xb360 era XBL never had 50 or even 40 million Monthly Active Users
in 2012, XBL had a TOTAL of 40 million User(Accounts)
on topic:
months old news, btw
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1400109&highlight=
bitbydeath
Gold Member
Why would having the highest active online base be a worry for Sony?
dragonflys545
Member
Are these for users who are actually in a game or just leaving the steam software open?
By that metric PSN stats are bogus too because some people only use it for Netflix at this point.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
No, I'll be ok with them not being swallowed up by Tencent.
They don't though
I don't think he's counting PSP, vita etc in his assumptions. Just 360 v ps3
People who have booted up a game within the last month, that's why it says "players" and not "users". Steam's number is more conservative than PSN and XBL.
Edit: Actually not sure what the PSN/XBL numbers entail.
Digital0Reality
Neo Member
I can see where he is coming from, PC has been taking away attention from the console market for the last few years now. That is why the ps4 pro exists in the first place. Despite PS4 taking a larger market share this generation, the overall 3 console user base has shrunk from the ps/wii/60 era.