And no, private citizens assaulting other private citizens is not analogous to fighting the German army in WW2.
I think the "context of war" philosophy is some GRADE. A. BULLSHIT.
Violence is violence. People's lives are extinguished either way.
And no, private citizens assaulting other private citizens is not analogous to fighting the German army in WW2.
Ok, great! So you support simply categorizing Neo Nazis and the KK as terrorist organizations and treating them no differently than ISIS when they march down the street, right?
I think the "context of war" philosophy is some GRADE. A. BULLSHIT.
Violence is violence. People's lives are extinguished either way.
... Are people in this thread actually advocating for vigilante violence? Are people seriously getting dogpiled for suggesting that it is a bad idea to go out on the street and assault people you think are Nazis? And people think that this will end well?
And no, private citizens assaulting other private citizens is not analogous to fighting the German army in WW2.
Why do people keep saying this? Every time there's a terrorist attack by an ISIS member in a western country they always find their brother mother father uncle or whatever.
Why do people keep saying this? Every time there's a terrorist attack by an ISIS member in a western country they always find their brother mother father uncle or whatever.
Fucking mortifyingCan a mod add a link to the OP showing the car speeding into the crowd?
https://twitter.com/MikeDelMoro/status/896442024546762753
And change the title, "Vehicle plows into counter protesters (anti-racists) in Charlottesville"? To help people get a better understanding of the situation.
Then ironically, you're the one that doesn't get it. I never said that Nazi's should be appeased. I said that you shouldn't play judge, jury and executioner and seek out Nazi's by yourself and assault them.
Honestly, the accusation of you and other that I'm some sort of Nazi sypathizer is disgusting.
While you live in America under the 1st amendment without any Government/bill level changes getting made it will indeed be you who goes to jail if you attack/kill someone and then say "I read on their Facebook page they were a member of the KKK and a white supremacist, then I tracked them down to a rally and attacked". That won't be counted as self-defence, not unless it can be shown without doubt they were going to attack you (yes I know the argument of "it's their ideology to wipe me out", but as a legal matter intent to action needs to be proven). Which is why you need Government level shutdowns of extremism and terrorism like in other countries. I tried to highlight how we have this in the UK, and in the UK, no, you as a civilian cannot go with intent to harm and attack a hate preacher and then claim self-defence. If pre-determined motive can be proven it impacts on your self-defence plea as well.
There is a legal discussion to be had here, which may lead to frustration as it isn't the emotional response many might be looking for. It's not about stopping anyone else doing whatever they want, but rightfully pointing out the consequences of actions whether you think they are moral or not whilst you live in America. You need your Government's framework sorted out to really crush extremism, and yes, this is why many are at wits ends because the Government isn't changing things/acting and the people are left wondering what they can do.
And use quotes about how they never saw it coming, and how sweet and normal he seemed? Huh.
Was just told on Facebook that Trump was right in saying this was "both sides" as both white supremacists and antifa have been violent "the past few months."
I can't.
This has actually happened many times.
Not advocating violence, but will upvote any Nazi getting punched gif. So edgy.
Think are Nazis, no.
Nazis that make themselves known and start spouting their garbage and hate, yes.
This has actually happened many times.
Ok, great! So you support simply categorizing Neo Nazis and the KK as terrorist organizations and treating them no differently than ISIS when they march down the street, right?
It's the next Far Cry that I'm more interested in -This game can't come soon enough
Just hope there's someone in the game with a silver/black Dodge Challenger we can shoot. (There won't be obviously - real cars don't appear in these games).
The teacher also told WCPO that Fields had wanted to join the Army, but couldnt because of his mental health history.
I guess you're right, these Nazis would've been completely peaceful if we just left them alone. It's not like anything that has happened in the LAST 24 HOURS WOULD DISPROVE THIS THEORY OF YOURS.Well that certainly doesn't sound like it would spiral out of control and have unintended consequences!
I honestly can't tell to what extent people are angry and venting and to what extent they are actually advocating for large-scale organized violence.
Well that certainly doesn't sound like it would spiral out of control and have unintended consequences!
I honestly can't tell to what extent people are angry and venting and to what extent they are actually advocating for large-scale organized violence.
http://www.kentucky.com/news/state/article166976052.html
There it is folks. Wrap it up. This wont see anymore attention because of "mental health".
And then they say something along the lines of, "why didn't you report so-and-so when he/she showed these tendencies?" When a brown or black person does something, the whole damn group of individuals surrounding the offender is held responsible.
I wasn't arguing about whether they are conducted the same way, I was just stating that the media does interview ISIS family members just like this Nazi guys family members.And use quotes about how they never saw it coming, and how sweet and normal he seemed? Huh. Wonder why that didn't cross the empathy barrier for the kill-all-Muslims corps.
Well that certainly doesn't sound like it would spiral out of control and have unintended consequences!
http://www.kentucky.com/news/state/article166976052.html
There it is folks. Wrap it up. This wont see anymore attention because of "mental health".
I guess you're right, these Nazis would've been completely peaceful if we just left them alone. It's not like anything that has happened in the LAST 24 HOURS WOULD DISPROVE THIS THEORY OF YOURS.
I'd love for someone to point me in the direction of one instance in history in which a hate group was defeated by anything other than pure violence.
I guess you're right, these Nazis would've been completely peaceful if we just left them alone. It's not like anything that has happened in the LAST 24 HOURS WOULD DISPROVE THIS THEORY OF YOURS.
Westboro baptist church?
I'd love for someone to point me in the direction of one instance in history in which a hate group was defeated by anything other than pure violence.
It is the duty and responsibility of anyone belonging to the human race to stand up for the weak and oppressed against any tide of bigotry and hatred.
Easy to say, right? Harder to put into action.
Well, heres a start.
Call your local senators, representatives, and state officials. Let them know you are NOT okay with this. Their contact info is PUBLIC information.
If you live in a state that is right-leaning this carries far more weight. Ill even help you out:
Find Your Legislator
Second, consider donating to organizations and charities championing equality and funding legal battles against intolerance and prejudice such as the ACLU or Minority Equality groups.
20 African American Charities
https://www.aclu.org/
If youve the means to do so, many cities and towns both large and small have active social and community support groups you can volunteer at and join that help organize protests and petition lawmakers for better treatment. Look online and youll find plenty of opportunities. They are ALWAYS in need of volunteers and help.
But... most importantly, and most difficult... dont be quiet on this subject. Not among coworkers. Not among friends. Not among family. That runs the risk of making someone you care about upset, or making your friendships or work relationships strained... and thats the risk you have to take, and that risk - and its fallout - is nothing compared to the pain and oppression countless others face on a daily basis. It costs something to take a stand, especially among your peers, but its the best course of action to take to challenge such inhuman views of others, and the best opportunity to help those in your community rethink and possibly change their views. It may not happen, and that sucks, but I myself am living proof of this change.
Despite the hate and ugliness, never give up on people. Its never too late to take a stand for equality.
Westboro baptist church?
WBC preaches hate, but they don't preach violence.Westboro baptist church?
It time to go ham ,friend."What happened in Charlottesville was because people are so anti-Trump"
- 10 seconds ago behind me at the gym
I do, but I think some may find imprisoning the ones that surrender a touch too merciful.
I'd love for someone to point me in the direction of one instance in history in which a hate group was defeated by anything other than pure violence.
I think the "context of war" philosophy is some GRADE. A. BULLSHIT.
Violence is violence. People's lives are extinguished either way.
Countries across Europe are currently shutting down and tackling Islamic extremism by using the legal system, intelligence services and counter measures. 'Pure violence' is only used in the wake of an attack to neutralise the attacker(s).
The US Government needs to start treat Neo-Nazis like we do in Europe. Along with all the other hate/radical groups and movements.
Westboro baptist church?