kunonabi
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Night trap easily.
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Night Trap 25th Anniversary Edition |OT| Relax, Pretend It's A Game
- Thread starter cj_iwakura
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Night trap easily.
cj_iwakura
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More referring to the PC glitches.
I just tweeted this out to the dev, and this is super annoying to me.
https://twitter.com/paul_gandersman/status/897648558211551232
When they have beautiful art like this:
Why the hell is the PS4 icon THIS:
That's really annoying to me. Looks like shit and feels like a fake game sitting on my screen.
Lol ya dude I was annoyed at the same thing! Also I really want to find a good wallpaper with that artwork somewhere but I googled off and on today for any Night Trap wallpapers and it seems none exist. As far as the game goes the only other thing I wish they'd add is on the pause menu a retry option, so that way if you miss an auger and you know you wanna lose and start back at your checkpoint you don't have to just sit and wait to fail or quit out then continue.
shanafan
Member
Game is still highly playable on PC. It's just audio issues I've encountered but nothing game breaking I've encountered yet.
s_mirage
Member
As far as I can tell, you can't finish the game at the moment on PC. There's a critical scene where you need to trap the augers, but the game strips you of control before you can trap them.
It depends on whether the discs have actually gone to the duplicators yet. If not, the LRG PC release should hopefully be a fixed version.
Mr. Enigma
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Dana Plato has a really nice butt in those jeans. God bless the higher resolution.
PositiveGamer
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Dana Plato and Corey Haim.. My 2 favorite FMV heroes both suicide.. :-(
Wait till you try to get perfect score... fun times.
oh yeah, it made headlines when she passed. I think gary coleman was going bankruptcy that same year, ironically.
shanafan
Member
Well perhaps I haven't reached that point yet.
I forgot about the kid in the hallway outside the kitchen.
s_mirage
Member
It's soon after that.
Alex_Mexico
Member
How is the footage from 1987 when the 32X, the 3DO and the Sega CD didn't exist back then??? Not even close to release!
s_mirage
Member
It was originally slated to be released on a system by Hasbro called the Control-Vision. It would have worked using multiple streams of video on VHS tape. That's why Night Trap is rather linear compared to later games; the video streams would have had to have been stored in a fixed order on the tape, whereas later disc based games could access the video clips/streams in any order they pleased.
From the wiki
"The origins of Night Trap can be traced back to Scene of the Crime, a 1986 prototype game developed by Axlon to demonstrate its planned entertainment system, code-named NEMO, to Hasbro executives. The system used VHS technology to present movie-like gaming experiences. With the system picked up by Hasbro, production of Night Trap began with a budget of US$1.5 million. The video footage was recorded across 16 days in 1987."
shanafan
Member
Crazy to think Night Trap was filmed way back in 1987 - 5 years before it eventually got a release.
cj_iwakura
Member
8/20.
MrCunningham
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SEGABITS Review: http://segabits.com/blog/2017/08/16...niversary-edition-the-definitive-package-ps4/
Video Review: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkevJRh_wu4
FMV WORLD Review: http://fmvworld.com/article_nighttrap_review.html
Video Review: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkevJRh_wu4
FMV WORLD Review: http://fmvworld.com/article_nighttrap_review.html
MrCunningham
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Yeah. The same thing happened with Sewer Shark as well, which was filmed in 1988. Two years after James Cameron's Aliens and one year after Joe Dante's Innerspace. You can see the 1980's influence of Aliens and Innerspace in Sewer Shark.
After the Hasbro thing fell through, the owner of Digital Pictures; Tom Zito, actually mentioned that they were going to release both Night Trap and Sewer Shark on the Super Nintendo Play Station CD add-on and the games were going to be published by Sony. But that never happened, so their next option was the Sega CD.
Sony still published Sewer Shark for the Sega CD under the Sony Imagesoft label, though. But Sega published the original release of Night Trap for the Sega CD. Later versions were published by Digital Pictures themselves.
Sega16 has a nice article from 2008 covering this: http://www.sega-16.com/2008/03/developers-den-digital-pictures/
PositiveGamer
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What is up with the footage in the game? A lot looks very blurry and you can even see the VHS tracking problems in the game..
However,when you watch the documentary, it actually looks a lot cleaner than the actual "remaster".
Anyone?
However,when you watch the documentary, it actually looks a lot cleaner than the actual "remaster".
Anyone?
shanafan
Member
The documentary stated that some of the clips have artifacts in the master. So, not much you can do with it. This is why they used some footage from the other versions like the 32X.
PositiveGamer
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AHA-Lambda
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how do you get checkpoints in this?
The Continue option on the main menu implies there are saves somehow but how do you get/use them?
The Continue option on the main menu implies there are saves somehow but how do you get/use them?
Mr. Enigma
Member
There's only one checkpoint at the 13:20 mark or so. The entire game lasts about 25:00.
AHA-Lambda
Member
Anyone else playing the PC version here?
There's a bug during
scene (about 16 mins in) where the player loses control after the SCAT override, and never gets control back - making the game unplayable and unbeatable.
There's a bug during
Ashley's potential death
s_mirage
Member
Yeah, that's what I commented on further up the page. Though it shouldn't have been released in the state, the developer is promising a patch soon. I'm must say, I'm really impatient to give this a proper play.
I think I saw something about that on the steam forums when I was looking up checkpoints re: a previous post.
cj_iwakura
Member
I know he's one guy, but how did he miss that?
s_mirage
Member
No idea. The obvious implication is that the release build of the game was never played through to completion. Either that or someone else tested it, didn't know the game well, didn't bother to complete it, and just reported that everything was fine. If I were a betting man, I'd bet that the bug is just a single digit typo.
shanafan
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cj_iwakura
Member
That's Lisa, not Ashley.
AHA-Lambda
Member
Fantastic.
Ok, Night Trap PC got a patch, and the game is at least beatable now, but now segments of the extras menu don't work; namely the theatre mode isn't accessible even though it should be now after beating the game, but worse the bonus game (Scene of the Crime) for getting a perfect run. simply refuses to even load.
How the hell do you mess up a PC port of Night Trap this badly?
EDIT:anyway, even ignoring all of that I can't help but be disappointed in this tbh. I knew going in what the crux of the gameplay loop was but what I didn't expect was actually to do with all of the campy cheesy scenes that made the game famous.
The main problem really is that if you're playing the game properly, you won't really get the chance to even see much of them all as you're too busy catching the enemies!
There's something wrong when watching cutscene compilations of this on youtube is a more satisfying experience than actually playing the game =/
Ok, Night Trap PC got a patch, and the game is at least beatable now, but now segments of the extras menu don't work; namely the theatre mode isn't accessible even though it should be now after beating the game, but worse the bonus game (Scene of the Crime) for getting a perfect run. simply refuses to even load.
How the hell do you mess up a PC port of Night Trap this badly?
EDIT:anyway, even ignoring all of that I can't help but be disappointed in this tbh. I knew going in what the crux of the gameplay loop was but what I didn't expect was actually to do with all of the campy cheesy scenes that made the game famous.
The main problem really is that if you're playing the game properly, you won't really get the chance to even see much of them all as you're too busy catching the enemies!
There's something wrong when watching cutscene compilations of this on youtube is a more satisfying experience than actually playing the game =/
TwiztidElf
Member
There seems to be a similar bug in the PS4 version. Around 16mins.
It just cuts to Danny getting killed by the augers, then disconnected by SCAT.
PS4 Version delayed for Europe
The PS4 version for Europe has been delayed until "First half of September" because translation requests didn't come in until the development of the game was already complete.
Think I might just grab the PC version then. I had no particular desire for PS4 over PC, just would've been nice I figured.
The PS4 version for Europe has been delayed until "First half of September" because translation requests didn't come in until the development of the game was already complete.
Think I might just grab the PC version then. I had no particular desire for PS4 over PC, just would've been nice I figured.
cj_iwakura
Member
Steam patch is live.
s_mirage
Member
That's working fine for me. I have a suspicion that there's an issue with the mouse controls, so if you're using the mouse to access the menus, try using a pad instead if you can. Using the mouse, I can't back out of the options menu and the currently selected options aren't highlighted when the menu loads. Both work fine when the menu's accessed with the pad, and I wonder if other features could be affected by this problem too.
AHA-Lambda
Member
I don't think my issues are controller realted
Theatre mode simply doesn't open, it gives a message telling me to beat the game to unlock it, which I've already done.
And as for the prototype bonus game, the screen simply goes black, nothing loads up.
s_mirage
Member
Very strange. I haven't got a good ending yet and the theatre works but (obviously) only shows the scenes I've unlocked.
I guess there's at least one more patch we've got coming then. I really hope the physical editions haven't gone to manufacture yet.
I think you just click on the main screen. I'd have to double-check, hold on.
edit: yeah
shanafan
Member
Thanks!
MrCunningham
Member
Gaming History 101 - Night Trap: 25th Anniversary Edition Analysis - Neat little article from Gaming History 101.
Hmm... 24fps video transfer for the PS4 version and 30fps frame transfer for the PC game? That seems weird.
Hmm... 24fps video transfer for the PS4 version and 30fps frame transfer for the PC game? That seems weird.
katsubento
Member
Almost forgot about this. Might pick it up just for nostalgia. I remember playing the Sega CD version and my parents couldn't believe it was a "game".
I am Christina Aguilera
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There's a bit about this in the book Console Wars. Sony, feeling burned by the Nintendo deal falling through, has the rights to these Digital Pictures FMV games that in ~1991 they have limited options for. Turning to Nintendo's fiercest competitor with a CD-ROM drive is a no-brainer for them. Sony Imagesoft agrees to start publishing games for the Sega CD. As part of the terms for the deal, Sony offers Sega publishing rights on either Sewer Shark or Night Trap, with Sony Imagesoft publishing the other. Night Trap seems like the splashiest, most notable, possibly controversial release, so Sega/Tom Kalinske opts for that one.
Of course, it comes back to bite them when Nintendo of America's Howard Lincoln is then able to use it as a bludgeon in the U.S. congressional hearings on video game violence. Lincoln had VHS copies made of Night Trap's most "violent" scenes for each member of Congress, which to some extent made the game look to the viewers like the player was performing sexually-charged violent acts against the actresses. And Sega's logo was right on the box!
At the end of it all, Sony has experience publishing games for a CD-ROM drive-based system. Tom Kalinske has said that when Sony offered Sega the chance to team up and release the PS1 hardware as their 32-bit next generation, he was pushing for it, but when he took the idea to Sega of Japan, they shot it down in favor of the made-in-house hardware that was already being worked on (the Saturn). The rest is history...