Glass Shark
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I haven't played Mania yet, but from watching quite a few videos of it, I hope the Mario series doesn't take any lessons from it.
From a game remixing 25 year old stages?
Feel like im going crazy, NSMB is not ambitious but neither is a 20$ revival game, 2D Mario should strive to be more like the DKC series but i don't think is happening, they will probably keep making Mario Maker games.
Create a dream team of super Mario world rom hackers and Mario maker stage makers.
Give them a budget
Let them create the ultimate love letter to 2d Mario
Create a dream team of super Mario world rom hackers and Mario maker stage makers.
Give them a budget
Let them create the ultimate love letter to 2d Mario
Nothing. 90% of the discussion is going to be about aesthetics, and that has nothing to do with learning from Mania because people have been asking them to do that for years. And hell, you can argue they already did with Mario Maker.
I love Virtua FIghter and Virutal On and Jet Set Radio WHERE THE FUCK ARE THE FULLY FUNDED FANGAMES OF THOSE, HUH?
I would sacrifice every Sonic game if it meant Sega had not thrown all their other franchises to the dogs, so I hope Nintendo doesn't learn a fucking thing from Sonic Mania
I'm sure it's a neat little game, but Nintendo has lots of good 2D platformers already. Yes, even new ones. Mario doesn't necessarily need to star in one. Take your "i luv nostalgia" and cram it.
I love the way, all the elements in DKCR and TF are connected to the background and make some physical sense. Which there would be the same kind of logic in Mario games.Nothing.
If anything Mario should learn from DKCR/TF. But even then is just art and music, the rest is complete fine.
3D World has better art, music and more inventive mechanics than any Sonic will ever muster.
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What is this thread.
3D World has better art, music and more inventive mechanics than any Sonic will ever muster.
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What is this thread.
That's a bit unfair, all of the stages are new, it's just themes that are being reused. You could even say the same about the NSMB games, all the games are using the same themes.
The salt coming from Mario fans and the "Sonic was never good" people in this thread is giving me life lol in regards to the OP if they can make Mario's soundtrack anywhere near a percentage to Sonic's I may consider finishing a Mario game for once...
Isn't that what people are complaining about the NSMB series?
I mean im not in love in the series, don't even find the level design that great (although i never played NSMBU and people seem to agree that's the best one).
I just find that is extremely weird that people act like Sonic Mania is some new high bar for 2D games in presentation when is just reusing the classic Sonic style.
The salt coming from Mario fans and the "Sonic was never good" people in this thread is giving me life lol in regards to the OP if they can make Mario's soundtrack anywhere near a percentage to Sonic's I may consider finishing a Mario game for once...
3D World has better art, music and more inventive mechanics than any Sonic will ever muster.
Like.
What is this thread.
3D World has better art, music and more inventive mechanics than any Sonic will ever muster.
Like.
What is this thread.
Isn't that what people are complaining about the NSMB series?
I mean im not in love in the series, don't even find the level design that great (although i never played NSMBU and people seem to agree that's the best one).
I just find that is extremely weird that people act like Sonic Mania is some new high bar for 2D games in presentation when is just reusing the classic Sonic style.
Really? I suppose it depends on musical taste but I felt that the music from Mario Galaxy 1 pretty much shit on any platformer ever made. If we're just talking 2D Mario then I'd agree ...as Nintendo needs to start giving it as much effort as Mario Galaxy (or Mario Kart for that matter).
Nothing.
Something very typical about this thread, a new game is released and then a "What can X lean from Y" even though X and Y belong into the same genre but are quite different.
Super Mario Maker is so much better than what any new 2D Mario game can do. Ok, SMM can be improved in lots of ways, but even in its current form it's just so good, just add ability to make bigger levels and add more items and stuff and maybe actual world building mode. There really isn't need for any more actual 2D Marios.
Nothing.
If anything Mario should learn from DKCR/TF. But even then is just art and music, the rest is complete fine.
So, Nintendo should just keep releasing games into their mirror?
What does this mean?
They do not care about their consumers since 1992.
They do not care about their consumers since 1992.
What does that have to do with anything? There being nothing to learn from Mania translates into that? What?
Millions of dollars in games and merchandise from Pokemon and Amiibo says you're wrong
Why is there nothing to learn, Red Devil?
How is that wrong? It means Nintendo struck a cord.
I want a new Super Mario Bros. that looks like this:
Have you played Sonic Mania? The themes in Sonic Mania haven't been used for over 20 years, so while I see what you mean, it's different, people aren't tired of these themes(yet, except for maybe Green Hill Zone). Not to mention the new themes are truly fantastic. It's also pretty creative with new gimmicks and bosses. And I found it rather challenging actually, while I can just stroll through the NSMB games with ease.
I do agree with NSMBU being the best 2D Mario, but that's because it's basically Super Mario World HD with bigger levels, it doesn't really do anything that's creative or exciting. And the boring art and music doesn't really give me any incentive to replay it.
I think people just really want a new 2D Mario with beautiful sprite work and an amazing soundtrack, especially now after Sonic Mania being a thing.
I can't believe we're having a Mario vs Sonic thread in this day and age.