Reported to modbot for bypassing my jim sterling thread auto-hide filter.
Good thing this is Duke Amiel du H'ardcore then.
Reported to modbot for bypassing my jim sterling thread auto-hide filter.
I dont hate-watch and I dont refuse to watch him to not to give him money, I just don't like his content anymore.
To be fair, I find it hard to get upset at elitists when the genre has been continuously dumbed down in the name of "accessibility."
I dont hate-watch and I dont refuse to watch him to not to give him money, I just don't like his content anymore.
Because he didn't like that game you like?
fair enough.I actually agree with you and don't watch him much anymore either, I just found your post funny.
You're not the one this video is lampooning. This is a reasonable, measured and perfectly sane opinion to have. Unfortunately, a post like this is not the norm when discussing the issue on the rest of the Internet.I cant watch the video but...I share this sentiment? As much as I enjoy Fallout 3 and Dragon Age Inquisition Ive definetly seen the decline of RPG systems over the years, while strangely they have come into fashion? The transition from Mass Effect 1 to 2 is a good example where Mass Effect 1 was to me a good adaption of classic RPG systems into an action game where as Mass Effect 2 went full cover shooter and streamlined the skills, inventory and explorations. Still really enjoyed it but as a shooter with minimal RPG garnish.
Kinda like how point and click went out of vogue but still exist in the form of close relatives like Telltale games. Still doesnt scratch that itch though.
I mist say though that the last few years have been good to the CRPG and some quality stuff has came out and worked on consoles too, its definetly less of a system situation and more a marketing and what companies think the market want.
I cant watch the video but...I share this sentiment? As much as I enjoy Fallout 3 and Dragon Age Inquisition Ive definetly seen the decline of RPG systems over the years, while strangely they have come into fashion? The transition from Mass Effect 1 to 2 is a good example where Mass Effect 1 was to me a good adaption of classic RPG systems into an action game where as Mass Effect 2 went full cover shooter and streamlined the skills, inventory and explorations. Still really enjoyed it but as a shooter with minimal RPG garnish.
Kinda like how point and click went out of vogue but still exist in the form of close relatives like Telltale games. Still doesnt scratch that itch though.
I mist say though that the last few years have been good to the CRPG and some quality stuff has came out and worked on consoles too, its definetly less of a system situation and more a marketing and what companies think the market want.
No because I think his opinion is influenced by what will give him the most plays/clicks. Zelda's review was just the confirmation, as I said I followed that guy for a few years prior. People are entitled to change his mind and to doubt about the motivations of reviewers to say things, it's called critical thinking, I'm not a Zelda fanboy nor I'm throwing a tantrum about a review I dont like, but you can think whatever you want.
I can't watch the video but...I share this sentiment? As much as I enjoy Fallout 3 and Dragon Age Inquisition I've definetly seen the decline of RPG systems over the years, while strangely they have come into fashion? The transition from Mass Effect 1 to 2 is a good example where Mass Effect 1 was to me a good adaption of classic RPG systems into an action game where as Mass Effect 2 went full cover shooter and streamlined the skills, inventory and explorations. Still really enjoyed it but as a shooter with minimal RPG garnish.
Kinda like how point and click went out of vogue but still exist in the form of close relatives like Telltale games. Still doesn't scratch that itch though.
I mist say though that the last few years have been good to the CRPG and some quality stuff has came out and worked on consoles too, it's definetly less of a system situation and more a marketing and what companies think the market want.
He doesn't even make money of clicks though, so your line of logic is utterly ridiculous.No because I think his opinion is influenced by what will give him the most plays/clicks. Zelda's review was just the confirmation, as I said I followed that guy for a few years prior. People are entitled to change his mind and to doubt about the motivations of reviewers to say things, it's called critical thinking, I'm not a Zelda fanboy nor I'm throwing a tantrum about a review I dont like, but you can think whatever you want.
But as others have pointed out, he doesn't need clicks as he is funded through monthly payments by donations, he doesn't have ads or anything that requires clicks or plays.
What confirmed in the Zelda review that this was the case? I'm just genuinely curios because I hear this often when a reviewer post a review and say their opinion which can be that they wasn't as enamoured by a game as others and gave it a low score, based said opinion, in which people immediately jump to "Oh they're just fishing for clicks."
Dude, a lot of us do share the sentiment, I'm sure. I didn't grow up with the old-school RPGs and I share it.
But this video is not about the sentiment, it's about the embarrassing and ironically immature way some people present it.
The transition from Mass Effect 1 to 2 is a good example where Mass Effect 1 was to me a good adaption of classic RPG systems into an action game where as Mass Effect 2 went full cover shooter and streamlined the skills, inventory and explorations. Still really enjoyed it but as a shooter with minimal RPG garnish.
No because I think his opinion is influenced by what will give him the most plays/clicks. Zelda's review was just the confirmation, as I said I followed that guy for a few years prior. People are entitled to change his mind and to doubt about the motivations of reviewers to say things, it's called critical thinking, I'm not a Zelda fanboy nor I'm throwing a tantrum about a review I dont like, but you can think whatever you want.
No fault. Seems a lot of people does find my post funny :S
He gave it a 7/10, said it was a good game that he had some issues with, but otherwise enjoyed it a lot.
Then they DDOSed his site.
irony is dad
Hi, irony. I'm hungry.
But as others have pointed out, he doesn't need clicks as he is funded through monthly payments by donations, he doesn't have ads or anything that requires clicks or plays.
What confirmed in the Zelda review that this was the case? I'm just genuinely curios because I hear this often when a reviewer post a review and say their opinion which can be that they wasn't as enamoured by a game as others and gave it a low score, based said opinion, in which people immediately jump to "Oh they're just fishing for clicks."
The dumbing down of game systems is not due to 'accesibility'. Larian, inXile, Obsidian and Firaxis have shown that you can get 'hardcore' games on the console without dumbing them down.
The real problem is shit management in many large companies, which feel the need to cast an unrealistically large net, public-wise, and end up turning their games into an undifferentiated mechanically-hybrid mush.
Low-er, forgot an 'er' in there. 7 was still good, just not maybe the 8s, 9s or 10s people were giving. I personally thought 7 was the fairest number myself as the game was fun but not as fantastic or "the best ever" as others were saying (short, boring and samey dungeons, characters were shallow and not interesting, story was presented in a jumbled mess, didn't like the weapon breakage etc.).
And yeah, I remember that time, it's honestly quite frustrating how people react to this stuff.
On the Zelda subject, having read and had his reviews as an important part of my decision making as with, for example, ACG I think he played down the strength and focused on the quirks deliberately to stir the pot.
There needs to be an internet law (or at least a GAF law) saying that eventually if an conversation about Jim Sterling goes on long enough someone will bring up his Zelda review.
Yep, those are some of the most complex games on the mainstream market today. Consoles and their users are not the enemy here. It's the companies that think people can't handle not having their hands being held.
This is still unfair to the companies that make them and the millions who play those games. Sometimes they just design a game that people enjoy. For example, FO4 get lots of flak from RPGers but my friend who seldom games still get happy talking about his painstakingly made power armor museum.The real problem is shit management in many large companies, which feel the need to cast an unrealistically large net, public-wise, and end up turning their games into an undifferentiated mechanically-hybrid mush.
Im genuinely surprised he hasn't made a video about it. Maybe once the dust had settled he lost more than he won with that and doesn't want to raise that subject anymore :/
Im genuinely surprised he hasn't made a video about it. Maybe once the dust had settled he lost more than he won with that and doesn't want to raise that subject anymore :/
Of course he "lost more than he won", at least in terms of pure popularity/viewership. The idea that a shitty Zelda review would somehow grow his fanbase is completely insane. How many "critical thinkers" like yourself have stopped following him since his Zelda review? Now how many times have you seen "I was never really into Sterling but he said Zelda is only quite good so I subscribed to his patreon."?Im genuinely surprised he hasn't made a video about it. Maybe once the dust had settled he lost more than he won with that and doesn't want to raise that subject anymore :/
This is still unfair to the companies that make them and the millions who play those games. Sometimes they just design a game that people enjoy. For example, FO4 get lots of flak from RPGers but my friend who seldom games still get happy talking about his painstakingly made power armor museum.
TLDR: don't be angry at devs for making "dumbed down" games, just be happy you have your Larian's and Obsidian's.
In cases like ZeniMax or EA where the dev is a subsidiary of the publisher, the people making the game are not the ones making the call as to what mechanics should be added or removed. The shots are called at publisher level.This is still unfair to the companies that make them and the millions who play those games. Sometimes they just design a game that people enjoy. For example, FO4 get lots of flak from RPGers but my friend who seldom games still get happy talking about his painstakingly made power armor museum.
TLDR: don't be angry at devs for making "dumbed down" games, just be happy you have your Larian's and Obsidian's.
You're not the one this video is lampooning. This is a reasonable, measured and perfectly sane opinion to have. Unfortunately, a post like this is not the norm when discussing the issue on the rest of the Internet.
The kind of user who thinks western RPGs are getting ruined by releasing on consoles are morons, but the rpg codex crowd isn't exactly wrong either when they claim that e.g bioware doesn't make the type of games they used to from a gameplay viewpoint.
We really don't know that, unless there is a press sneak fk I missed.In cases like ZeniMax or EA where the dev is a subsidiary of the publisher, the people making the game are not the ones making the call as to what mechanics should be added or removed. The shots are called at publisher level.
That sounds fair enough at a glance.This is still unfair to the companies that make them and the millions who play those games. Sometimes they just design a game that people enjoy. For example, FO4 get lots of flak from RPGers but my friend who seldom games still get happy talking about his painstakingly made power armor museum.
TLDR: don't be angry at devs for making "dumbed down" games, just be happy you have your Larian's and Obsidian's.
If you talk down to 'noobs' in your 'legitimate point' you are a child and deserve to be mocked.Some of the quotes in the video are fine. They are only bad because of the mocking tone and lack of context.
It's easy to belittle legitimate points by mocking them in a comedic way.
Dude, a lot of us do share the sentiment, I'm sure. I didn't grow up with the old-school RPGs and I share it.
But this video is not about the sentiment, it's about the embarrassing and ironically immature way some people present it.
lmao. To post this in this thread of all threads.
You realize this is the type of comment he's making fun of right? Lol