AzureFlame
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no way, DS3 imo is not the hardest Souls game, the hardest is DS2 then Demons Souls.
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Dark Souls 3 v. Bloodborne: Which is more difficult?
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no way, DS3 imo is not the hardest Souls game, the hardest is DS2 then Demons Souls.
Voidwolf
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Hard to say, all in all I'd say Bloodborne is the harder of the two but it was also my first game in the franchise. It's tougher at the start, mid game gets a bit easier but then it ramps up near the end. You have Father Gascoigne and Blood Starved Beast at the beginning. Rom and Shadow of Yharnam in the middle and then Mergo's Wet Nurse, Gehrman, and Moon Presence at the end. Lady Maria and Orphan of Kos for the DLC. Martyr Logarius and Ebrietas are tough optional bosses too. Bloodborne just has all these really hard bosses scattered throughout.
With Dark Souls III it's really just the Nameless King, Soul of Cinder, and Friede.
I'm talking about bosses that the majority of players have trouble with. My experience with the series was very very odd and I've only had trouble with Martyr Logarius, Ebrietas, Orphan, Nameless King, Friede, Taurus Demon, and Artorias. Rest of the series has been 5 attempts per boss at the most with plenty of one shots.
With Dark Souls III it's really just the Nameless King, Soul of Cinder, and Friede.
I'm talking about bosses that the majority of players have trouble with. My experience with the series was very very odd and I've only had trouble with Martyr Logarius, Ebrietas, Orphan, Nameless King, Friede, Taurus Demon, and Artorias. Rest of the series has been 5 attempts per boss at the most with plenty of one shots.
I beat Ornstein and Smough on my first try.
KittenMaster
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Bloodborne if you include Chalice Dungeons, Dark Souls 3 if you don't.
But Central Yharnam is the best part of the game.
And nah, guys. We ain't counting that cheap ass chalice dungeon shit. We don't talk about chalice dungeons.
I had more trouble with DS3 than any of them, and I've finished each game multiple times and platinum'd BB. Generally it felt like all of the enemies in DS3 had Bloodborne-level speed, but my character didn't have the tools to keep up with them in some situations (quality build). I never felt that way in Bloodborne or previous Souls games.
Diprosalic
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i doubt that's true. i thought DS3 is quite easy to finish.
Hispanic! At the Disco
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I got a bit before half-way through bloodborne before just giving up.
Darksouls 3 though didnt give me any more of a problem than I expected it to. Played straight through.
I went back to bloodborne hoping my practice in darksouls 3 would help, but not really. Gave up again.
Darksouls 3 though didnt give me any more of a problem than I expected it to. Played straight through.
I went back to bloodborne hoping my practice in darksouls 3 would help, but not really. Gave up again.
Sygma
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BSB in BB is probably the easiest boss in the whole game since you can wreck it real hard without it targetting you, ever
If you re doing it right you'll only have to bother with 20 - 30% hp of it at most
Otherwise, BB's DLC is the hardest content in any of the games, period. Orphan of Kos is an absolute nightmare
If you re doing it right you'll only have to bother with 20 - 30% hp of it at most
Otherwise, BB's DLC is the hardest content in any of the games, period. Orphan of Kos is an absolute nightmare
If the DLC counts, then Bloodborne, easily. But the main game in Bloodborne is easier than Dark Souls III, imo.
Though that will change a lot based on how you play. Bloodborne gives you a lower amount of viable playstyles, so if it happens that this is already the way you play Souls, you'll feel right at home and destroy everything, but if you're used to rely on shields or magic, you're in for a ride.
I genuinely forget about the chalice dungeons even existing from time to time, haha. I'd easily trade that for a single handcrafted Pthumeru Ihyll level below Byrgenwerth. Or even just a better Byrgenwerth level.
Though that will change a lot based on how you play. Bloodborne gives you a lower amount of viable playstyles, so if it happens that this is already the way you play Souls, you'll feel right at home and destroy everything, but if you're used to rely on shields or magic, you're in for a ride.
I genuinely forget about the chalice dungeons even existing from time to time, haha. I'd easily trade that for a single handcrafted Pthumeru Ihyll level below Byrgenwerth. Or even just a better Byrgenwerth level.
Orochinagis
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DS3 wanted to be Bloodborne which ended killing the game and for me.
In terms of difficulty DS3 can feel harder because the enemies movement is faster like BB but your character is still slow compared to the Hunter.
Anyway in my opinion both are equally harder in its own terms but easy to conquer if you understand the mechanics on both games aka fire buffed weapons in DS3 and beast buffed weapons in BB
In terms of difficulty DS3 can feel harder because the enemies movement is faster like BB but your character is still slow compared to the Hunter.
Anyway in my opinion both are equally harder in its own terms but easy to conquer if you understand the mechanics on both games aka fire buffed weapons in DS3 and beast buffed weapons in BB
InfiniDragon
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Bloodborne starts harder, but Beast Blood Pellets make any boss in that game nearly free so Dark Souls 3, of the two you listed.
It's basically 'dodge left' the boss. I found a number of BB bosses fall victim to such a strategy. Get behind the likes of Ebrietas or the Wet Nurse and they're completely helpless.
Kinda disappointing to a degree.
Orphan was tough, but for me Sister Friede was the hardest boss in the series. Don't know why but she completely broke me and made me summon help for the first time in the entire series.
It's the first boss that really makes you learn to parry (on first playthrough any) I suck at it or dodge wasn't good at it at that point and it probably killed me more than anything, but 2 Old Hunter bosses.
On NG+ it was much easier and if you use bait not even a challenge. I, like most probably didn't do that on their first playthrough.
Orochinagis
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Well, most, if not all giant bosses have the same left weakness in Souls games.
I think only the snow tiger have fast AoE to not get trapped
elshoelace
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I have been playing through Sotfs recently because I never played the DLC in 2 and for some reason it does give me a bit more trouble than the other souls games. Also just finished Demons Souls a couple weeks ago for the first time and found it the easiest of all the Soulsborne. The bosses were all pretty easy in that game
Hippopuncher12
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I thought BB was pretty easy outside of some chalice shit that halved your health. The speed, and ability to heal as you attack made you so damn OP. I have not played the DLC stuff yet, and I know that adds some difficulty. DS3 I thought wasn't that bad either, however it has for me the hardest boss in the series which is Friede...fuck her.
Spooky Scary Skeleton
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Bloodborne is harder because there is no shield to save yourself unlike most of cases in Dark Souls 3. You are forced to play more aggressively in this game, hence you are more likely die even more.
Btw chalice dungeon in BB doesnt make the game hard. That dungeon is just a pure bullshit and very cheap.
Btw chalice dungeon in BB doesnt make the game hard. That dungeon is just a pure bullshit and very cheap.
Jawbreaker
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Bloodborne for me, though Dark Souls III definitely tested me with a couple of bosses (if we include the DLC).
Sygma
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hum, when you re reaching the beast you should have flame paper and blood lure in your inventory. from then you don't even need to deal with any of the mechanics until its suuuuper low hp
DustyVonEric
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With the right shield equipped, I think Dark Souls 3 is probably easier.
You also have a shite load of special arrows available.
And spells.
Yeah, Dark Souls 3 is easier I think.
You also have a shite load of special arrows available.
And spells.
Yeah, Dark Souls 3 is easier I think.
Yep.
OrbitalBeard
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Probably Bloodborne.
There's nothing more challenging than desperately searching for a bell ringer in a chalice dungeon, in order to stop the onslaught of giant red spiders.
Though those obnoxious angels at the start of the Ringed City DLC in Dark Souls 3 come pretty close.
One thing that makes DS3 easier is the number of bonfires. They're everywhere. In Bloodborne, there's usually only one lamp per area, which makes searching for alternate paths and shortcuts a big part of the game, which adds to the overall challenge.
There's nothing more challenging than desperately searching for a bell ringer in a chalice dungeon, in order to stop the onslaught of giant red spiders.
Though those obnoxious angels at the start of the Ringed City DLC in Dark Souls 3 come pretty close.
One thing that makes DS3 easier is the number of bonfires. They're everywhere. In Bloodborne, there's usually only one lamp per area, which makes searching for alternate paths and shortcuts a big part of the game, which adds to the overall challenge.
CopperPuppy
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Which two are you referring to? Not disagreeing just curious, as I'm currently doing some Chalice runs.
What made Bloodborne easier for me was the Blood Vial system. I never really ran out of Vials and I never had to farm for them, either, they were overflowing from my inventory for the entire game just from playing normally. With Estus, I constantly run out of it in between bonfires in every DS game.
Yeah these alone make Bloodborne late game harder
Sky Walker
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Didn't play DS3 dlc yet but The Old Hunters bosses kicked my ass so hard I rage quitted few times.
So Bloodborne is more difficult.
So Bloodborne is more difficult.
They are similar and maybe it is just me but both seemed easier than earlier games (Probably because I was used to the style and knew what to expect with these latest games). It is hard to say that one is more difficult than the other in this case though because both are so different. Bloodborne is way more fast paced and rewards high risk/vs reward and Dark Souls III (Although faster than the older games) is more methodical and calculated in fighting style.
GravityInsanity
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It really depends. For some people Bloodborne can be considered harder because you have no shield while Dark Souls 3 does and you're also faster in DS3 compared to DS2.
Then you look at how tough the bosses are. For me Dark Souls 3 had harder bosses compared to Bloodborne in the base game, but the Chalice Dungeon bosses are MUCH harder than the bosses in the base as well. Watchdog of the Old Lords is clearly the hardest boss I've face in the Chalice Dungeon when you fight it a second time.
But, guess what? The hardest enemy that I've faced in all of the Souls games and Bloodborne wasn't even a boss, it was these fuckers from the DLC.
Fighting 2 of them at the same time is a real pain in the ass. You will DIE by default.
Then you look at how tough the bosses are. For me Dark Souls 3 had harder bosses compared to Bloodborne in the base game, but the Chalice Dungeon bosses are MUCH harder than the bosses in the base as well. Watchdog of the Old Lords is clearly the hardest boss I've face in the Chalice Dungeon when you fight it a second time.
But, guess what? The hardest enemy that I've faced in all of the Souls games and Bloodborne wasn't even a boss, it was these fuckers from the DLC.
Fighting 2 of them at the same time is a real pain in the ass. You will DIE by default.
Bloodborne starts harder out of the gate, but I think after Bloodstarved Beast that the game is relatively easy until you get to The Old Hunters. Ludwig is a rude awakening if you go into OH at a lower level. I had a lot of difficulty with even the Living Failures fight, Lady Maria is fairly challenging, Orphan of KOS is very challenging, and Laurence, ugh, that fight is unfair. Dark Souls 3 is easier throughout but The Ringed City was tough. The bosses weren't as hard as Laurence, maybe, but the areas were harder to get through IMO than anything from BB. Damn you angels of light and Adjudicator Argo! Now, Halflight was a bit of a joke, at least the times I fought that fight, but Gael and Midir were certainly not a breeze at all.
I guess DS3 was overall a bit easier because there are builds that make certain boss fights trivial. Like you can use a sorcery build to stomp Midir, or a bleed build on Gundyr to make him cake. In Bloodborne, builds aren't that much different. Also, in DS3 there are a greater variety of weapons, and with quality or pyro caster builds, you can be quite flexible in your play style, so even for bosses that would be harder for a build, you can counter them. For instance, my pyro playthrough, I switched to miracles for Demon Princes, since they are strong to dark, and then to sorcery for Midir.
I guess DS3 was overall a bit easier because there are builds that make certain boss fights trivial. Like you can use a sorcery build to stomp Midir, or a bleed build on Gundyr to make him cake. In Bloodborne, builds aren't that much different. Also, in DS3 there are a greater variety of weapons, and with quality or pyro caster builds, you can be quite flexible in your play style, so even for bosses that would be harder for a build, you can counter them. For instance, my pyro playthrough, I switched to miracles for Demon Princes, since they are strong to dark, and then to sorcery for Midir.
Human Trashcan
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Bloodborne is definitely harder and people who say otherwise are not putting themselves in the shoes of a player new to the series, or someone who just isn't very good. The health items don't automatically replenish, one of the hardest required bosses is very early on (FG), and in general the opening section is a lot to deal with for someone who's just learning the systems. If you can make it past the hump or take a natural shine to its systems, Bloodborne is not that difficult in the context of all the Soulsborne games, but as an entry point it's arguably the toughest one of them all.
I like bloodborne better and beat the game many times
but still struggle against certian bosses.
In DS3 I can fight most bosses with no weapon (Besides Midir and Crap Rotted Great wood) and only get hit like once.
Overall I'd say Bloodborne is more difficult but I think the boss I struggle against the most is in DS3. I just really suck at fighting Midir
but still struggle against certian bosses.
In DS3 I can fight most bosses with no weapon (Besides Midir and Crap Rotted Great wood) and only get hit like once.
Overall I'd say Bloodborne is more difficult but I think the boss I struggle against the most is in DS3. I just really suck at fighting Midir
Astral Dog
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Bloodborne DLC is hard
Loran Darkbeast and Abhorrent Beast I believe. Its been a while and their names all sound the same to me.
One is the lightning powered one that chases you around a circular arena, the other is missing its head (leading to lore speculation although I dont know if this changed post-Old Hunters) and chases you around a very tiny rectangular room.
I think it depends on play style.The gamers with more defensive play style (like me) will probably find dark soul much more easier.
Also I think bloodborne has much harder bosses.Personaly I did not have any problem beating DS3 bosess except for nameless king and it was optional.
Also I think bloodborne has much harder bosses.Personaly I did not have any problem beating DS3 bosess except for nameless king and it was optional.
Bloodborne for me. I'm sure people will say the movement and ample stamina for dodging makes the game easier but after coming from DeS, DS1, and DS2, Bloodborne was much harder to adapt to in terms of play style for me. It took me out of my comfort zone of slow and steady and the first 2 bosses (Gascoigne and Cleric Beast) were probably the hardest introduction bosses in the Souls series with Blood Starve Beast pretty much the "git gud" checkpoint.
DS3, on the other hand, was a more familiar playstyle. However with D3 it felt easier as you are "bolder" in your approach because of how your experience in BB.
DS3, on the other hand, was a more familiar playstyle. However with D3 it felt easier as you are "bolder" in your approach because of how your experience in BB.
Jimnymebob
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DS3 is easily harder.
Bloodborne's difficulty drops off a cliff around 1/3rd of the way through- after
- and doesn't really recover from there, outside of the DLC. The last 3 bosses of the main game are so disappointing due to how simple they are. Thematically, they're fantastic, but they're not challenging (save for the final boss having a move that basically leaves you with 1HP).
Bloodborne's difficulty drops off a cliff around 1/3rd of the way through- after
Vicar Amelia
TheTylerRob
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Did a lot of GAF start with the series with Bloodborne or something? The changes to dodging made me feel a lot safer than other souls games but I could see having more trouble if it was my first game in the genre.
Orochinagis
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There is a big problem with DLC, Souls DLC are placed between mid and late game which kinds indicates the enemies difficulty or hinting you need certain experience and gear to enter. DS1 DLC is located near to the end of the game, DS2 DLC is place in between and Late game and DS3 is located in mid and late game
BB DLC is straight out Amelia who is a Lv30 ish boss fight that indicates the player is on his/her early stats yet the DLC on the strategy guide tells you need around Lv 70 with +8 weapons so of course the DLC will kicks you in your humanity.
BB DLC is two DLC merged into one, each zones (
Hunter Nightmare, Lecture Hall, Fishing Hamlet)
Flyinmunky
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hmmm tough call. I would give the edge to Bloodborne.
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