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Media Create Sales: Week 40, 2017 (Oct 02 - Oct 08)

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casiopao

Member
Heartskips said:
Talking more about mainstream shounen shows. Idol anime translates well to mobile and SAO/Madoka are aimed at older audiences too.
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Actually, i think most if not all mobile games main money maker come from older audience there. I mean, in Japan or the world, young children to teenager won't have credit card to purchase gacha point.(Buying those card point won't be huge enough to be a whale for sure.^_^)

But i do agree that mainstream shounen shows is not huge enough on mobile space right now. Only Dragon Ball. One Piece and Naruto is in top 50 in Japan right now.
 
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schuelma

Wastes hours checking old Famitsu software data, but that's why we love him.
BrokenJohnCena said:
Think again,the NA and Europe line ups are much better than Japan
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Yeah. It really is amazing that Western 3rd parties are in a better position this holiday to capitalize on Switch holiday sales than Japan. Its not even close, really.
 
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BrokenJohnCena

Member
schuelma said:
Yeah. It really is amazing that Western 3rd parties are in a better position this holiday to capitalize on Switch holiday sales than Japan. Its not even close, really.
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But tbf,heavy western supports during November is understandable though,there will be lots of new console users in ththe west looking for a new game for their new shiny console after playing Mario Odyssey and Breath Of The Wild,they will capitalize that moment to release their games
 
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Datschge

Member
sense said:
The comment doesn't say either. It says Sony, I don't even understand why people go out of their way to make this distinction lol.
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Laplasakos said:
Should really be clarified as Sony in general, as Nirolak said.
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If you want Sony (as in the part responsible for Playstation) to do well/better in Japan Sony Music Entertainment's mobile success changes zilch there. As is gaming in Japan, dedicated device or not, is essentially dead to the Playstation unit.

(Fun fact, before Sony Computer Entertainment, now Sony Interactive Entertainment, was formed for Playstation Sony Music Entertainment was also responsible for dedicated device games in Japan.)
 
silpheed-mcd

silpheed-mcd

Member
Amazon Japan, Super Mario Odyssey first
https://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/bestsellers/videogames/ref=sv_vg_2

US too
https://www.amazon.com/best-sellers-video-games/zgbs/videogames/ref=zg_bsar_tab_t_bs

UK too
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Best-Sellers-PC-Video-Games/zgbs/videogames/ref=zg_bsar_tab_t_bs

France too
https://www.amazon.fr/gp/bestsellers/videogames/ref=zg_bsar_tab_t_bs

Canada too...
https://www.amazon.ca/Best-Sellers-...ames/ref=zg_bsar_tab_t_bs/142-1558001-3227365

Deutschland third:
https://www.amazon.de/gp/new-releases/videogames/ref=zg_bs_tab_t_bsnr

Spain, 2nd and 6th:
https://www.amazon.es/gp/new-releases/videogames/ref=zg_bs_tab_t_bsnr

Italia 5th and 36th:
https://www.amazon.it/gp/bestsellers/videogames/ref=zg_bsnr_tab_t_bs
https://www.amazon.it/gp/bestsellers/videogames/ref=zg_bsnr_tab_t_bs#2
 
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Fiendcode

Member
Datschge said:
If you want Sony (as in the part responsible for Playstation) to do well/better in Japan Sony Music Entertainment's mobile success changes zilch there. As is gaming in Japan, dedicated device or not, is essentially dead to the Playstation unit.

(Fun fact, before Sony Computer Entertainment, now Sony Interactive Entertainment, was formed for Playstation Sony Music Entertainment was also responsible for dedicated device games in Japan.)
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SME also did some games on PS1. I believe Tenchu originally came from them before they sold the rights.
 
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Dark Cloud

Member
silpheed-mcd said:
Amazon Japan, Super Mario Odyssey first
https://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/bestsellers/videogames/ref=sv_vg_2

US too
https://www.amazon.com/best-sellers-video-games/zgbs/videogames/ref=zg_bsar_tab_t_bs

UK too
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Best-Sellers-PC-Video-Games/zgbs/videogames/ref=zg_bsar_tab_t_bs

France too
https://www.amazon.fr/gp/bestsellers/videogames/ref=zg_bsar_tab_t_bs

Canada too...
https://www.amazon.ca/Best-Sellers-...ames/ref=zg_bsar_tab_t_bs/142-1558001-3227365

Deutschland third:
https://www.amazon.de/gp/new-releases/videogames/ref=zg_bs_tab_t_bsnr

Spain, 2nd and 6th:
https://www.amazon.es/gp/new-releases/videogames/ref=zg_bs_tab_t_bsnr

Italia 5th:
https://www.amazon.it/gp/bestsellers/videogames/ref=zg_bsnr_tab_t_bs
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Italy Messing up
 
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PantsuJo

Member
Dark Cloud said:
Italy Messing up
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Very few people bought a Switch in Italy.

It's Sony land here, really: good bundles, good prices, games often on sale... And there's no "handheld culture" like other countries, despite good success of 3ds.

Also, price is an important factor here: in the group of rich EU countries, we are the economy with the slowest growth after the crisis (luckily things are changing) and, more importantly, we are fucked by a VAT of 22%, basically.

Many retailers seems to have little faith in Switch (for example, Euronics and Trony), aside for dedicated gaming retailers like GameStop, of course.
 
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Aostia

El Capitan Todd
PantsuJo said:
Very few people bought a Switch in Italy.

It's Sony land here, really: good bundles, good prices, games often on sale... And there's no "handheld culture" like other countries, despite good success of 3ds.

Also, price is an important factor here: in the group of rich EU countries, we are the economy with the slowest growth after the crisis (luckily things are changing) and, more importantly, we are fucked by a VAT of 22%, basically.

Many retailers seems to have little faith in Switch (for example, Euronics and Trony), aside for dedicated gaming retailers like GameStop, of course.
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Uhm, it actually had the best launch ever for a Nintendo system.
Globally, I agree that price is still a barrier, tough
 
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casiopao

Member
PantsuJo said:
Very few people bought a Switch in Italy.

It's Sony land here, really: good bundles, good prices, games often on sale... And there's no "handheld culture" like other countries, despite good success of 3ds.

Also, price is an important factor here: in the group of rich EU countries, we are the economy with the slowest growth after the crisis (luckily things are changing) and, more importantly, we are fucked by a VAT of 22%, basically.

Many retailers seems to have little faith in Switch (for example, Euronics and Trony), aside for dedicated gaming retailers like GameStop, of course.
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You guys should thanks yourself for electing Berlusconi then.O_O
 
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PantsuJo

Member
Aostia said:
Uhm, it actually had the best launch ever for a Nintendo system.
Globally, I agree that price is still a barrier, tough
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Indeed, I should have specified: compared to the number of new PS4 (and One? Maybe not) sold every month.

casiopao said:
You guys should thanks yourself for electing Berlusconi then.O_O
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That clown isn't at govern from long time, luckily for us (but he will run again in the next elections, holy shit).

But that's not the point: VAT is an historically long term problem here.

I have 28 years and I remember this topic discussed from my parents when I was a child and the country used the Lira currency, years before Euro.

Taxes are the real enemy of this country, even in videogame market (but this is a subject of another thread, I think)
 
Laplasakos

Laplasakos

Member
Datschge said:
If you want Sony (as in the part responsible for Playstation) to do well/better in Japan Sony Music Entertainment's mobile success changes zilch there. As is gaming in Japan, dedicated device or not, is essentially dead to the Playstation unit.

(Fun fact, before Sony Computer Entertainment, now Sony Interactive Entertainment, was formed for Playstation Sony Music Entertainment was also responsible for dedicated device games in Japan.)
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Maybe you should stop imagining things. Don't even know how from my comment you got that i am saying this because i want Sony (as in Playstation) to do better in Japan.

Sony Music Entertainment is a subsudiary of Sony. So it's perfectly fine to say Sony instead of Sony Music Entertainment every time. That's all there is to it.
 
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Phife Dawg

Member
PantsuJo said:
Indeed, I should have specified: compared to the number of new PS4 (and One? Maybe not) sold every month.


That clown isn't at govern from long time, luckily for us (but he will run again in the next elections, holy shit).

But that's not the point: VAT is an historically long term problem here.

I have 28 years and I remember this topic discussed from my parents when I was a child and the country used the Lira currency, years before Euro.

Taxes are the real enemy of this country, even in videogame market (but this is a subject of another thread, I think)
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Eh, Italy is far from being at the top in Europe and countries like Sweden have a 25% VAT and still better growth. Consumption to GDP is already high in Italy so no need to incentivize either.

BrokenJohnCena said:
who is Berlusconi?An actor?
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No, that's Beppe Grillo. Both are clowns in their own right tough.
 
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Chris1964

Sales-Age Genius
schuelma said:
Yeah. It really is amazing that Western 3rd parties are in a better position this holiday to capitalize on Switch holiday sales than Japan. Its not even close, really.
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The funny thing is that western third parties, that shifted resources faster, can survive this November/December without Switch. Holidays in Japan will be a bloodpath for almost every Japanese third party on the other hand.
 
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Jigorath

Banned
Datschge said:
If you want Sony (as in the part responsible for Playstation) to do well/better in Japan Sony Music Entertainment's mobile success changes zilch there. As is gaming in Japan, dedicated device or not, is essentially dead to the Playstation unit.
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ForwardWorks seems to be fairly disconnected from PlayStation in general so what does it matter? If ForwardWorks releases a massive hit on mobile, how's that going to help dedicated hardware in Japan?

And at the end of the day Sony Interactive Entertainment and Sony Music Entertainment are both still Sony. It's even in their names!
 
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PantsuJo

Member
Aostia said:
It's selling better than Xbox One in our Bel Paese!
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Well, yeah, I pictured it, lol

Honestly I know only one friend with a One... The others play on PC and PS4; simply put: lot of users switched from 360 to PS4 two years ago here. (I live in South Italy)

But this is a Media Create thread guys, we should discuss this in the PAL Charts thread :D
 
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casiopao

Member
PantsuJo said:
Indeed, I should have specified: compared to the number of new PS4 (and One? Maybe not) sold every month.


That clown isn't at govern from long time, luckily for us (but he will run again in the next elections, holy shit).

But that's not the point: VAT is an historically long term problem here.

I have 28 years and I remember this topic discussed from my parents when I was a child and the country used the Lira currency, years before Euro.

Taxes are the real enemy of this country, even in videogame market (but this is a subject of another thread, I think)
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Wait, i thought he said he is broke which is why he sold Milan to Chinese Consortium?O_O And now he wanted to run again? OMG.

I remember hearing from some of my Italy pals, the main reason why u guys are having problem with ur economy is because bureaucracy in ur country is quite bad? Tons of steps to pass only to deal some business?
 
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Aostia

El Capitan Todd
casiopao said:
Wait, i thought he said he is broke which is why he sold Milan to Chinese Consortium?O_O And now he wanted to run again? OMG.

I remember hearing from some of my Italy pals, the main reason why u guys are having problem with ur economy is because bureaucracy in ur country is quite bad? Tons of steps to pass only to deal some business?
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Burocracy
Corruption
Taxes

these are very HEAVY issues for our economy.

Btw, what about the NIS game to be announced? Was it supposed to be announced today, or tomorrow?
 
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PantsuJo

Member
casiopao said:
Wait, i thought he said he is broke which is why he sold Milan to Chinese Consortium?O_O And now he wanted to run again? OMG.

I remember hearing from some of my Italy pals, the main reason why u guys are having problem with ur economy is because bureaucracy in ur country is quite bad? Tons of steps to pass only to deal some business?
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Uh, for what I know, he sold his team because the AC Milan society itself was full of debts; the rest of his industries seems doing good (I think? honestly I don't use any Mediaset paid service at the moment).

Also, yes, bureaucracy is a massive problem here, for **everything**. But it's not the only problem that cut the wing of our economy (also, often bureaucracy is directly correlated with corruption, for example).

If you want to "understand" better our country (which even I, italian,often don't understand LOL) you can check the official Italy thread, in the off-topic forum.

Talking about the problems of my country would take another 2/3 Media Create threads, seriously :D

(Also, sorry for my bad english!)
 
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casiopao

Member
Aostia said:
Burocracy
Corruption
Taxes

these are very HEAVY issues for our economy.

Btw, what about the NIS game to be announced? Was it supposed to be announced today, or tomorrow?
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It is like hearing u talk about my county Indonesia lol.O_O But u are actually a developed Country and Part of Europe lol.O_O

PantsuJo said:
Uh, for what I know, he sold his team because the AC Milan society itself was full of debts; the rest of his industries seems doing good (I think? honestly I don't use any Mediaset paid service at the moment).

Also, yes, bureaucracy is a massive problem here, for **everything**. But it's not the only problem that cut the wing of our economy (also, often bureaucracy is directly correlated with corruption, for example).

If you want to "understand" better our country (which even I, italian,often don't understand LOL) you can check the official Italy thread, in the off-topic forum.

Talking about the problems of my country would take another 2/3 Media Create threads, seriously :D

(Also, sorry for my bad english!)
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Haha. I mostly only heard and followed some Italian news as i am Serie A junkies lol.(And of course Juventini to the core of my heart.) I often heard that to even build a Stadium especially in cities like Milan or Rome, there is like on hell of a mountain of bureaucracy that must be handled that even such big teams is having huge trouble in doing.

Ahh. interesting on Berlusconi there. Guess, he knew what is the best time to cut loose there. No need to keep holding the loss.
 
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Jigorath

Banned
Speaking of Aniplex, what other anime IPs does Sony have the license to? They've stumbled onto a pretty major winning formula here with the success of Fate and Madoka. They're gonna keep this mobile train going.
 
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casiopao

Member
TheLegendaryN said:
Everything south and/or east from Austria can be considered less developed than the northwestern part of Europe.
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Guess how much internet teach us here then.^_^ I mean, even when i visited Italy, i am very fascinated by how beautiful the country is that i never thought how bad the corruption problem is before some of my Italian friends mentioned it.(Would love to go to Turin once more for sure.^_^)
 
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Heartskips

Banned
It's hard to say which anime franchise could be another hit for Sony/Aniplex. Madoka doing this good was unexpected to me, you can see why Fate would fit well the mobile format - it has classes and uses historic figures as sexy/cute/cool characters - the whole Master/Servant thing is super fanservice too. Madoka was a closed story involving few characters, but somehow the "expanded universe" is appealing to people, I guess.

Monogatari could be a good bet. It's Aniplex, it's a big franchise, fans are willing to buy merch and products. Apparently a puzzle mobage was announced recently, I don't know if this is the ideal format to use the franchise, but let's see.
 
silpheed-mcd

silpheed-mcd

Member
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ComG! sales: Oct 09 - Oct 15

01/NEW-[PS4] Middle Earth: Shadow of War - 54
02/01-[3DS] Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga + Bowser's Minions - 27 (-35)
03/02-[PS4] Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen - 21 (-6)
04/R-[3DS] Mario Kart 7 - 15
05/05-[NS] Splatoon 2 - 13 (-1)
06/09-[PS4] The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel III - 12 (+2)
07/06-[3DS] Dragon Quest XI: Echoes of an Elusive Age - 12 (-2)
08/08-[3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf - Welcome amiibo - 12 (+1)
09/NEW-[NS] Lost Sphear - 11
10/12-[PSV] Tokyo Clanpool - 10 (+2)
11/R-[PS4] Horizon: Zero Dawn - 9
12/13-[PSV] Tokyo Clanpool (Limited Edition) - 8 (=)
13/07-[NS] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe - 8 (-5)
14/NEW-[PS4] Date-A-Live: Rio Reincarnation HD - 7
15/10-[NS] Pokken Tournament DX - 7 (-2)
16/R-[3DS] Etrian Mystery Dungeon 2 - 7
17/NEW-[PSV] Yoshiwara Higanbana Kuon no Chigiri - 6
18/NEW-[PS4] Date-A-Live: Rio Reincarnation HD (Limited Edition) - 7
19/R-[PS4] Yakuza Kiwami 2 (LE) - 6
20/04-[PS4] Sniper: Ghost Warrior 3 - 6 (-12)

*R=RETURN

PS4: 8 (+1)
NEW: 3
RETURN: 2
OUT: 4

3DS: 5 (=)
NEW: 0
RETURN: 2
OUT: 2

SWITCH: 4 (-2)
NEW: 1
RETURN: 0
OUT: 3

PSVITA: 3 (+1)
NEW: 1
RETURN: 0
OUT: 0


OUT

11-[PS4] Fallout 4: Game of the Year Edition - 9 (=)
14-[PS4] FIFA 18 - 8 (-52)
15-[PS4] Coven and Labyrinth of Refrain - 7
16-[PS4] Genkai Tokki: Castle Panzers - 6 (-25)
03-[3DS] Radiant Historia: Perfect Chronology - 21 (RETURN)
20-[3DS] Hey! Pikmin - 6 (RETURN)
17-[NS] 1-2-Switch - 6 (RETURN)
18-[NS] The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild - 6 (RETURN)
19-[NS] Dragon Ball: Xenoverse 2 for Nintendo Switch - 6 (RETURN)


Last week, Oct 02 - Oct 08:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=251409218&postcount=1468


Edit: Day's preorders

Super mario odyssey: +9 pt
MHW: +4 pt
Pokémon US/UM: +4 pt
GT Sport: +3 pt
http://www.comgnet.com/ranking/

Impressive SMO.
 
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Psycho_Mantis

Banned
Heartskips said:
Hanging with Bleach is impressive? The franchise isn't relevant for years already and Brave Souls isn't a big game in Japan.

Not sure about Naruto, but I thought only shounen with big mobile games there were Dragon Ball with Dokkan Battle and One Piece with Treasure Cruise.
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Not talking about just Japan. Naruto game was massive in China, reached number 1 in 2015 iirc. Its really popular among the Naruto fanbase in Japan as well.

Google Play

Naruto - 10 - 50 million downloads (307k ratings)
DBZ - 10 - 50 million downloads (542k ratings)
OP - 5 - 10 million downloads (503k ratings)
 
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Vena

Member
SMO is definitely going to behave like Land (or Land+) rather than the Galaxy games, its trajectory is fairly clear now but it will be set in stone in the few weeks around launch.
 
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Pachael

Member
Jigorath said:
Speaking of Aniplex, what other anime IPs does Sony have the license to? They've stumbled onto a pretty major winning formula here with the success of Fate and Madoka. They're gonna keep this mobile train going.
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Ever since Magia Record was announced around this time last year I figured that Aniplex was already looking through all their previous anime productions to see what is viable in the market, particularly with Iwakami's past projects (Aniplex president/producer). Either way these days with the money they're making they can pick and choose which vehicles to continue pushing forward since every multi mix property theyve done an anime for is looking to share the spoils.

One such example is this - Kirara Fantastia which is a Hobunsha / Aniplex / Drecom developed game releasing sometime this year hopefully published by Aniplex which happens to feature Yunocchi from Hidamari Sketch which Iwakami's produced and other Kirara properties like New Game.
https://appmedia.jp/kirarafantasia/854181

Game itself looks like a light hearted fantasy romp with Kirara characters with fun scenarios - I expect a quest where Aoba et al from New Game fighting enemy characters they produced in the series.

Aniplex also has been producing well received Sword Art Online movies but I remember that Bandai Namco have the game rights so I don't foresee Aniplex picking that up
 
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Fisico

Member
PantsuJo said:
But that's not the point: VAT is an historically long term problem here.
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Why would VAT be such aproblem in Italy?
Every country in the EU have VAT between 20-25%

Heartskips said:
It's hard to say which anime franchise could be another hit for Sony/Aniplex. Madoka doing this good was unexpected to me, you can see why Fate would fit well the mobile format - it has classes and uses historic figures as sexy/cute/cool characters - the whole Master/Servant thing is super fanservice too. Madoka was a closed story involving few characters, but somehow the "expanded universe" is appealing to people, I guess.

Monogatari could be a good bet. It's Aniplex, it's a big franchise, fans are willing to buy merch and products. Apparently a puzzle mobage was announced recently, I don't know if this is the ideal format to use the franchise, but let's see.
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If you watched the TV series you should have noticed that Madoka is a much much better fit to a gacha game than Monogatari.
Madoka had the potential from the get go to an infinite number of characters, Monogatari instead has a finite cast which doesn't fit at all the gacha business model.
 
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