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Need some advice. Feeling the urge to get back into sim racing. Mainly wanting to play iRacing but also have the new GT Sport on PS4.

I currently have a G25 wheel/pedals/shifter that does the job. I've never really had any complaints with it. However, I feel the urge to upgrade, if it truly would be an upgrade. Here are my thoughts:

- Best Buy currently has the deal for the G29 on sale with free shifter. I would then gain native PS4 support so I can play on PC and PS4, but honestly I just don't see myself using the wheel on the PS4 much. Is the G29 a worthy upgrade from the G25 for $300?

- Fanatec has the CSL Elite with wheel/pedals that is also compatible with the PC and PS4. Higher price here though at $550 for the set once you factor in shipping. Again, is this a worthwhile upgrade from the G25 for the price? Is there a solid reason to pick this one over the G29, worth the extra money?

- The other pie-in-the-sky option is to get the Fanatec Clubsport v2.5 base and build a wheel and pedal around it. I could go this option, it's not out of the realm of possibility, it's just that I don't really consider my good at sim racing, just adequate enough to have fun. Nor do I have enough time to consistently get better, so I just don't think I'd see the benefits to having this base over the CSL Elite base. As in, I could probably use both bases and not be able to tell a difference.

I appreciate any advice, sooner rather than later since the G29 sale is limited time only. I have considered Thrustmaster but just am not sure. I trust Logitech quality given past experiences and I've always read good things about Fanatec (and like the idea of getting a more quality, specific-built wheel from a company that specializes in this).

 

[Catphish]

I bought a G29 yesterday and, while I can't say if it's worth $300 to go to it from a G25, I can tell you that I love it.

However, Gran Turismo did not work with the clutch, and it was very flaky with the shifter. It wouldn't always recognize the proper gear, and would often get stuck in neutral for no good reason. I was so dissatisfied with GTS, that I traded it in earlier today.

But with Forza 7, it's a dream. Works exactly how you would want, and I am very impressed with it.

 

[marvelharvey]

A performance theory on RD relating to PCI-E performance:

Have you confirmed if you're running in 3.0 x16 mode?

Need some advice. Feeling the urge to get back into sim racing. Mainly wanting to play iRacing but also have the new GT Sport on PS4.

I currently have a G25 wheel/pedals/shifter that does the job. I've never really had any complaints with it. However, I feel the urge to upgrade, if it truly would be an upgrade. Here are my thoughts:

- Best Buy currently has the deal for the G29 on sale with free shifter. I would then gain native PS4 support so I can play on PC and PS4, but honestly I just don't see myself using the wheel on the PS4 much. Is the G29 a worthy upgrade from the G25 for $300?

Aren't the G25 and G29 basically the same wheel with different pedals?

 

[blurredvision]

Aren't the G25 and G29 basically the same wheel with different pedals?

That I'm not sure of. I know the G27 and G29 are almost the same but wasn't sure about the older G25.

 

[Makikou]

Have you confirmed if you're running in 3.0 x16 mode?
Aren't the G25 and G29 basically the same wheel with different pedals?

I've been told there are some marginal improvements in the G29's ffb compared to G27 but belt-driven wheels are still much superior.

 

[TechnicMOC]

Need some advice. Feeling the urge to get back into sim racing. Mainly wanting to play iRacing but also have the new GT Sport on PS4.

I currently have a G25 wheel/pedals/shifter that does the job. I've never really had any complaints with it. However, I feel the urge to upgrade, if it truly would be an upgrade. Here are my thoughts:

- Best Buy currently has the deal for the G29 on sale with free shifter. I would then gain native PS4 support so I can play on PC and PS4, but honestly I just don't see myself using the wheel on the PS4 much. Is the G29 a worthy upgrade from the G25 for $300?

- Fanatec has the CSL Elite with wheel/pedals that is also compatible with the PC and PS4. Higher price here though at $550 for the set once you factor in shipping. Again, is this a worthwhile upgrade from the G25 for the price? Is there a solid reason to pick this one over the G29, worth the extra money?

- The other pie-in-the-sky option is to get the Fanatec Clubsport v2.5 base and build a wheel and pedal around it. I could go this option, it's not out of the realm of possibility, it's just that I don't really consider my good at sim racing, just adequate enough to have fun. Nor do I have enough time to consistently get better, so I just don't think I'd see the benefits to having this base over the CSL Elite base. As in, I could probably use both bases and not be able to tell a difference.

I appreciate any advice, sooner rather than later since the G29 sale is limited time only. I have considered Thrustmaster but just am not sure. I trust Logitech quality given past experiences and I've always read good things about Fanatec (and like the idea of getting a more quality, specific-built wheel from a company that specializes in this).

Thrustmaster T300RS GT $300 from amazon/newegg & BHphoto a moment - THe version with the better 3 pedal setup.
Most people would put the t300 wheel above the G29

 

[Mascot]

Has anyone here managed to get the joy2key in-game app running in Assetto Corsa?

http://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/joytokey.11283/

I use the standalone joy2key to map VR centre view to one button on my wheel (to avoid fumbling around for ctlr-space with the HMD on) but using the in-game app would be a neater solution as it should start with the game. However, it doesn't start in game and won't even be jump-started manually from the AC apps folder (to set up the correct key binding).

Anyone here had any joy?

Spoiler

2key

 

[kiyomi]

Was thinking while watching an iRacing replay how it'd be cool to see head tilt animations if you look left or right - either with buttons like me or with a VR setup, to see when a driver is looking in the mirrors. Would add a lot to the feel of a replay imo.

Need some advice. Feeling the urge to get back into sim racing. Mainly wanting to play iRacing but also have the new GT Sport on PS4.

I currently have a G25 wheel/pedals/shifter that does the job. I've never really had any complaints with it. However, I feel the urge to upgrade, if it truly would be an upgrade. Here are my thoughts:

- Best Buy currently has the deal for the G29 on sale with free shifter. I would then gain native PS4 support so I can play on PC and PS4, but honestly I just don't see myself using the wheel on the PS4 much. Is the G29 a worthy upgrade from the G25 for $300?

- Fanatec has the CSL Elite with wheel/pedals that is also compatible with the PC and PS4. Higher price here though at $550 for the set once you factor in shipping. Again, is this a worthwhile upgrade from the G25 for the price? Is there a solid reason to pick this one over the G29, worth the extra money?

- The other pie-in-the-sky option is to get the Fanatec Clubsport v2.5 base and build a wheel and pedal around it. I could go this option, it's not out of the realm of possibility, it's just that I don't really consider my good at sim racing, just adequate enough to have fun. Nor do I have enough time to consistently get better, so I just don't think I'd see the benefits to having this base over the CSL Elite base. As in, I could probably use both bases and not be able to tell a difference.

I appreciate any advice, sooner rather than later since the G29 sale is limited time only. I have considered Thrustmaster but just am not sure. I trust Logitech quality given past experiences and I've always read good things about Fanatec (and like the idea of getting a more quality, specific-built wheel from a company that specializes in this).

I bought the G29 second hand a couple of months ago and I really like it, but it was my first wheel and I have no other references. By most accounts though if you can pick up a T300 variant for the same price then go for that.

What do you guys think of nVidia's "Fast Sync" option? It's developed as a low lag v-sync alternative if you have 2x+ of the monitor frame rate, but I've seen tests where even when the framerate dropped below 60fps, the lag was at around 12ms only.

Never tried it, I'll check it out later.

 

[Mascot]

DiRT Rally is £7.99 on Steam right now.
Seems like a no-brainer, but how is it in VR? All aboard the Vomit Comet?

Edit: or for another £15, is DiRT 4 a better bet?

 

[TJP]

Have you confirmed if you're running in 3.0 x16 mode?
Aren't the G25 and G29 basically the same wheel with different pedals?

The 1070 is certainly running in 3.0 x16 mode. Oh well; I'll wait for a fix or stick to lower number grids.

DiRT Rally is £7.99 on Steam right now.
Seems like a no-brainer, but how is it in VR? All aboard the Vomit Comet?

Edit: or for another £15, is DiRT 4 a better bet?

Dirt Rally suffers from a lack of stages; Dirt 4 suffers from little post release support.

Choose your poison.

 

[Teknopathetic]

"Edit: or for another £15, is DiRT 4 a better bet?"

Dirt 4 doesn't have VR support and seems all around to be considered inferior to Dirt Rally with regards to handling.

 

[Mascot]

Dirt Rally suffers from a lack of stages; Dirt 4 suffers from little post release support.

Choose your poison.

"Edit: or for another £15, is DiRT 4 a better bet?"

Dirt 4 doesn't have VR support and seems all around to be considered inferior to Dirt Rally with regards to handling.

Ah, thanks both. Know what? I don't even really like rally games all that much. It was the price more than anything that got my attention. When (if?) I get pCARS 2 again I probably won't even bother trying the rallycross.

Maybe I'll pick it up and chase-cam it in 2D arcade-style like FM7.

 

[TJP]

Ah, thanks both. Know what? I don't even really like rally games all that much. It was the price more than anything that got my attention. When (if?) I get pCARS 2 again I probably won't even bother trying the rallycross.

Maybe I'll pick it up and chase-cam it in 2D arcade-style like FM7.

Have a read of the Dirt 4 reviews on Steam - http://store.steampowered.com/app/421020/DiRT_4/#app_reviews_hash

pCARS 2 continues to lose value: https://www.cdkeys.com/pc/games/project-cars-2-pc-steam-cd-key

 

[marvelharvey]

The 1070 is certainly running in 3.0 x16 mode.

Then I'm stumped. There's no way I should have the same framerate as you with 40 cars, 4K, Ultra PP and some super sampling. The 1080 isn't that much better. Sorry to hear of struggle.

 

[TJP]

Then I'm stumped. There's no way I should have the same framerate as you with 40 cars, 4K, Ultra PP and some super sampling. The 1080 isn't that much better. Sorry to hear of struggle.

The 1080 is a far better GPU than the 1070 which is little more than a more energy efficient 980Ti and is around 25% to 30% slower than a 1080. The new 1070Ti still lags behind the 1080!

I'm not that fussed TBH as there are a lot more people complaining about the frame rate than not so I'm hardly alone with this issue.

 

[Mascot]

pCARS 2 continues to lose value: https://www.cdkeys.com/pc/games/project-cars-2-pc-steam-cd-key

Ooh... that's £27.54 with the Facebook code.

Must... resist...

 

[ValfarHL]

Ooh... that's £27.54 with the Facebook code.

Must... resist...

The driving itself is effing good Mascot. Just do it, haha.

 

[Mascot]

The driving itself is effing good Mascot. Just do it, haha.

I need to know if the VR issues are fixed first (along with other minor irritations). I'm happy to wait.

Spoiler

Or am I?

 

[ValfarHL]

I need to know if the VR issues are fixed first (along with other minor irritations). I'm happy to wait.

Spoiler

Or am I?

The night issues?

 

[TJP]

Ooh... that's £27.54 with the Facebook code.

Must... resist...

Two weeks and it's Steam sale time!

Happy for you to do the beta testing for the rest of us.

 

[Mascot]

The night issues?

Lots of VR users on the official forums are complaining that dashboard lights at night are blindingly bright. It's making some people skip those events altogether, apparently. I didn't try night racing in VR during my ~3hrs with the game so I can't comment personally. I don't think I experienced any white flashes during daytime driving like some people say either, but it's a recognised issue that needs fixing.

Two weeks and it's Steam sale time!

Happy for you to do the beta testing for the rest of us.

Two weeks? I thought the next sale was end of December?

 

[DD]

"Edit: or for another £15, is DiRT 4 a better bet?"

Dirt 4 doesn't have VR support and seems all around to be considered inferior to Dirt Rally with regards to handling.

I disagree with that.

 

[TJP]

Two weeks? I thought the next sale was end of December?

bookmark this site: https://www.whenisthenextsteamsale.com

 

[Betta Lines]

What do you guys think of nVidia's "Fast Sync" option? It's developed as a low lag v-sync alternative if you have 2x+ of the monitor frame rate, but I've seen tests where even when the framerate dropped below 60fps, the lag was at around 12ms only.

I tried it briefly when it was first introduced and it seemed fine in terms of latency, but my framerate wasn't good enough to hold over double refresh all the time, so it would judder in some situations. I found this to be more distracting than tearing of no-sync in the same situations.

Need some advice. Feeling the urge to get back into sim racing. Mainly wanting to play iRacing but also have the new GT Sport on PS4.

I currently have a G25 wheel/pedals/shifter that does the job. I've never really had any complaints with it. However, I feel the urge to upgrade, if it truly would be an upgrade. Here are my thoughts:

- Best Buy currently has the deal for the G29 on sale with free shifter. I would then gain native PS4 support so I can play on PC and PS4, but honestly I just don't see myself using the wheel on the PS4 much. Is the G29 a worthy upgrade from the G25 for $300?

- Fanatec has the CSL Elite with wheel/pedals that is also compatible with the PC and PS4. Higher price here though at $550 for the set once you factor in shipping. Again, is this a worthwhile upgrade from the G25 for the price? Is there a solid reason to pick this one over the G29, worth the extra money?

- The other pie-in-the-sky option is to get the Fanatec Clubsport v2.5 base and build a wheel and pedal around it. I could go this option, it's not out of the realm of possibility, it's just that I don't really consider my good at sim racing, just adequate enough to have fun. Nor do I have enough time to consistently get better, so I just don't think I'd see the benefits to having this base over the CSL Elite base. As in, I could probably use both bases and not be able to tell a difference.

I appreciate any advice, sooner rather than later since the G29 sale is limited time only. I have considered Thrustmaster but just am not sure. I trust Logitech quality given past experiences and I've always read good things about Fanatec (and like the idea of getting a more quality, specific-built wheel from a company that specializes in this).

G25<<<<<G29<<T300<<<<<<<<<<CSL Elite<<<<<<<<CSWv2.5

That's my rough assessment of where each wheel is in relation to the others. There is also the Thrustmaster TS-PC/TS-XW/T-GT (all same mechanism), which fit in roughly the same point as the CSL - but only the T-GT has PS4 functionality and is overpriced.

I looked on Amazon.com - it looks like the T300 GT is being sold by Amazon at $299 also? If that's the case, it's difficult to recommend the G29 at the same price. They are close, but the T300 has the better mechanism.

As for whether upgrading from a G25 to G29 is worth $300 is difficult to answer. The pedals will feel familiar (you might find the brake too stiff, but you can remove the bushing), but the steering will be much better - tighter, more responsive, stronger, smoother. The T300 GT is all those things too, but slightly stronger and smoother still (with slightly worse pedals).

The CSL Elite base is significantly better (more powerful, smoother) than both the G29 and T300, and the pedals are also significantly better. Going from a T300 to a CSL is a bigger step up in performance than going from a G25 to a T300, imo.

Have you confirmed if you're running in 3.0 x16 mode?
Aren't the G25 and G29 basically the same wheel with different pedals?

You're probably thinking of the G27, which is basically the same as the G29. The G25 is much older, and has a different type of gear drive that is both weaker and very noisy. The G27 used helical gearing, which made it much smoother and quieter (generally it's quieter, but certain frequencies generate a harsh 'rattle'), and the G29 uses the same system. The G29 has better hall sensors, so the actual steering input data is more precise than the G27. It has a rubber bushing in the brake pedal, but is otherwise the same. I tested a G27 and G29 side by side, and the G29 did feel slightly stronger too, but that might be explained by different driver support, or just because the G27 was a 'well worn' example.

DiRT Rally is £7.99 on Steam right now.
Seems like a no-brainer, but how is it in VR? All aboard the Vomit Comet?

I gave it a positive review: https://www.roadtovr.com/dirt-rally-vr-review-oculus-rift/

But I also don't include it in my list of the top 5 VR racing sims: https://www.roadtovr.com/top-5-racing-sims-with-oculus-rift-support-virtual-reality/

(On page 2 I list it in the 'Honorable mentions' section and explain my reasoning. I get a lot of stick for not including it, because some people think it's the best VR sim bar none.)

 

[TylerDurden4321]

I tried it briefly when it was first introduced and it seemed fine in terms of latency, but my framerate wasn't good enough to hold over double refresh all the time, so it would judder in some situations. I found this to be more distracting than tearing of no-sync in the same situations.

I wasn't sure if this was my imagination, but I too felt it just wasn't smooth at below ~90fps. And about the lag I feel not competent enough to comment on, if the game in question is not some fast 2D action game.

That's my rough assessment of where each wheel is in relation to the others. There is also the Thrustmaster TS-PC/TS-XW/T-GT (all same mechanism), which fit in roughly the same point as the CSL - but only the T-GT has PS4 functionality and is overpriced.

Hmm, I have tried neither wheel, but from video impressions (looking at the driving more than listening to opinions), I really thought the TS-PC is smoother, but the CSL stronger and more violent and both of them seemed to still swollow nuances when there is a constant force applied already - the first wheel that seems really great in that aspect is the CSW2.5. But that is too pricey for me (and really, I should get a better stand/chair and better pedals first anyway).

 

[Betta Lines]

I wasn't sure if this was my imagination, but I too felt it just wasn't smooth at below ~90fps. And about the lag I feel not competent enough to comment on, if the game in question is not some fast 2D action game.

I think just knowing that fast sync might still introduce more latency than no-sync is enough to put me off using it. That said, the frame limiters I use might also be introducing similar levels of lag. In any case, I prefer tearing over judder

Hmm, I have tried neither wheel, but from video impressions (looking at the driving more than listening to opinions), I really thought the TS-PC is smoother, but the CSL stronger and more violent and both of them seemed to still swollow nuances when there is a constant force applied already - the first wheel that seems really great in that aspect is the CSW2.5. But that is too pricey for me (and really, I should get a better stand/chair and better pedals first anyway).

The CSL vs TS-PC is a very interesting comparison, as they feel very different, yet are arguably the closest pairing in terms of different companies offering the same kind of performance. I've tested them side by side on the same rig, and the TS-PC came up slightly better all round in my estimation. However, I was testing the original CSL Elite, not the PS4 version, which has upgraded electronics. The CSL is much smoother in terms of actual rotation than the TS-PC - very similar in smoothness to a CSW. But it swallows nuances as you say - the TS-PC is better in this respect. Both are unable to match a CSW V2 for power or detail, let alone the V2.5.

 

[Dave_6]

I'm still thinking about upgrading to the CSWv2.5 from my G27. I was originally wanting to jump all the way to an OSW but I never quite realize just how expensive they are, especially when most wheels with paddle shifters etc are ~$700 themselves. On top of the ~$1200 for the wheel base/motor parts.

 

[TylerDurden4321]

The CSL is much smoother in terms of actual rotation than the TS-PC - very similar in smoothness to a CSW. But it swallows nuances as you say - the TS-PC is better in this respect. Both are unable to match a CSW V2 for power or detail, let alone the V2.5.

Huh, very intersting.
That a V2 is still so far superior to both is also interesting. Maybe I should look out for a V2 on ebay once the Fanatec DD wheel is out and lots of people will upgrade. Thanks

 

[Big Takeover]

I'm still thinking about upgrading to the CSWv2.5 from my G27. I was originally wanting to jump all the way to an OSW but I never quite realize just how expensive they are, especially when most wheels with paddle shifters etc are ~$700 themselves. On top of the ~$1200 for the wheel base/motor parts.

You should consider waiting for Fanatec to fully spill the beans on their upcoming Podium series, or at least know that you'll have an upgrade path from whatever Fanatec gear you buy now.

https://youtu.be/lkezakAmxmA

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OSW kits are now under $1K, and converting a Fanatec formula rim ($200) can be done for less than 20 bucks. The cost difference from a top of the line belt driven wheel isn't too bad.

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I actually still have my CSW V2. that I would like to sell off at a reasonable price. PM if interested.

 

[Ocho]

I've got a free steam key of Dirt Rally, first guy to reply gets it.

 

[R8TEDM3]

I've got a free steam key of Dirt Rally, first guy to reply gets it.

Am i 1st lol

 

[Crash331]

Am i 1st lol

dammit, beat me

 

[Ocho]

Am i 1st lol

Sent

 

[R8TEDM3]

Sent

Thanks soooo much

 

[Big Takeover]

I said they wouldn't be Captain Obvious, and I meant it! Other, more eloquent people have written/spoken about the bigger ticket items, so I'm coming in with some trinkets that I find useful.
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Party Like It's 1996: Kensington Orbit Trackball

My hands sweat when I race, and it's not long before the trackpad on my K400 stops working because of the moisture. You haven't known panic until you've almost run out of time to grid because you can't move the mouse pointer to the green "grid" button. $25
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Time to Make the Donuts: Peakeep Battery Travel Alarm Clock (silent tick)

Maybe in 2019 when the iRacing UI is finished, I'll start using it, and it's built-in clock. Until then... $10
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Foot Fetish: Heusinkveld Curved Pedal Plate Upgrade

I've discovered I'm really picky with how my pedals feel under foot.

I have ProtoSimTech pedals, and the included pedal faces are flat. No bueno. The optional pedal faces are curved and much better, but they're plastic.

Heusinkveld has offered these "upgrade" faces for anyone who bought some of the very first batches of their pedals, which were flat. The holes looked roughly like the same diameter as my PT-1's, so I put them on my radar. They've been out of stock on their website until just recently when they redesigned it. Insta-buy! They fit great, and I imagine they'd fit most other pedal sets too.

I've never told anybody about them because I feel kind of bad for "stealing" them. They seem to be there specifically as a kind gesture to early customers, and are therefore only &#8364;20 +free shipping from NL to US. Don't tell your friends.
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Soggy Mitts: Mechanix Wear FastFit Gloves

Anyone with an alcanatra rim will tell you what a horror show it is when your hands sweat. Your hands turn black. The wheel gets gross. It's not good. Gloves help with both of these. You couldn't pay me to use expensive nomex racing gloves, but I've tried just about every other kind of cheap glove. These quick drying Mechanix Wear ones are vastly superior to anything else. $12.

 

[Mascot]

Nice tips. One that springs to mind is Heat Holders socks for racing in.

https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/HHMSBK.html?source=adwords&ad_position=1o3&ad_id=45425533757&placement=&kw=&network=g&matchtype=&ad_type=pla&product_id=HHMSBK&product_partition_id=174055724227&test=finalurl_v2&gclid=Cj0KCQjwvabPBRD5ARIsAIwFXBmizE3pUtUsP4954-2l3S2ooXSX5uo0qQY41v74_Y2AD9EHTgo_gFQaAgEwEALw_wcB

These are very, very thick, but light. They give a lot more feel than racing boots and your feet 'slide' nicely on the pedals when depressing them. They are warmer than normal socks on cold metal pedals too. Also make great slippers!

Bonus tip: stick thick self-adhesive neoprene on the pedal base where your heels rest, or stick down one of those gel wrist-rest strips that some people put in front of their mouse mats. Sore heels suck while driving.

 

[marvelharvey]

.

Some questions:

-How is the Ricmotech TH8A Short Throw mod?
-How the hell did you get those PT-1s? They're gold dust!
-What controls to assign to under the DSD toggle switch guards? 'Ignition' feels like a waste of a control, as the cars start automatically. I considered using the text string "Fucking learn how to drive you cunt!", which certainly needs guarding. But currently I have nothing assigned to those controls.

I wish Heusinkveld would change their names to something easier for my old brain to recall. Similar to "Nordschleife", I need to Google it before I can spell it correctly.

 

[Big Takeover]

Nice tips. One that springs to mind is Heat Holders socks for racing in.

I'm on my second pair of these horrendously ugly things, but they work awesome. Water shoes. They're flat (no heel lift), they're slip ons, and they're cheap ($10). They're also not too grippy on the bottom which is what I like. I don't like my feet to bind up. I want both the shoes and the pedals to be slippery.

Some questions:

-How is the Ricmotech TH8A Short Throw mod?
-How the hell did you get those PT-1s? They're gold dust!
-What controls to assign to under the DSD toggle switch guards? 'Ignition' feels like a waste of a control, as the cars start automatically. I considered using the text string "Fucking learn how to drive you cunt!", which certainly needs guarding. But currently I have nothing assigned to those controls.

I wish Heusinkveld would change their names to something easier for my old brain to recall. Similar to "Nordschleife", I need to Google it before I can spell it correctly.

- It's great! It doesn't change anything mechanically like your sequential does, but the throw reduction is really nice. Good enough until Heusinkveld starts selling their shifter next year.
- I had to wait like 8 months to get them. The newly redesigned PT-2 should be on your radar. They even reduced the price!
- Yeah, Ignition and starter...neither of which I think I've ever used! The other two are "UI" (alt-k), and Cam (ctrl F12). Here are pics of the labeled buttons. One, two.

 

[marvelharvey]

Here are pics of the labeled buttons. One, two.

I'm not entirely sure why I enjoyed looking at someone else's button box labels, but I did.

 

[Zeth]

I can co-sign the Mechanix gloves. I’ve been using a similar model for over a year now. My Momo rim is in much better condition than the Thrustmaster Alcantara I’ve used with bare hands.

 

[Dave_6]

You should consider waiting for Fanatec to fully spill the beans on their upcoming Podium series, or at least know that you'll have an upgrade path from whatever Fanatec gear you buy now.

https://youtu.be/lkezakAmxmA

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OSW kits are now under $1K, and converting a Fanatec formula rim ($200) can be done for less than 20 bucks. The cost difference from a top of the line belt driven wheel isn't too bad.

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I actually still have my CSW V2. that I would like to sell off at a reasonable price. PM if interested.

Ah, didn't know about Sim-Plicity. I've only looked at Simracingbay. Guess i would just need an adapter of some sort to use a Fanatec wheel with a OSW?

Need to get a rig first though. I was originally going with an RSeat but I was told to skip them and get something from Sim-lab. I'm definitely going with them now but I need to make my mind up on which one, lol.

 

[Mascot]

Water shoes. They're flat (no heel lift), they're slip ons, and they're cheap ($10). They're also not too grippy on the bottom which is what I like. I don't like my feet to bind up. I want both the shoes and the pedals to be slippery.

Way ahead of you there, BT. Bought these for £6 for two pairs from some fat billionaire's chavvy sportswear shop for exactly that purpose.

And gloves-wise I use thin rubber-palmed work gloves. They last for ages unless you use an alcantara rim, which soon makes mincemeat of them.

 

[Big Takeover]

Ah, didn't know about Sim-Plicity. I've only looked at Simracingbay. Guess i would just need an adapter of some sort to use a Fanatec wheel with a OSW?

Need to get a rig first though. I was originally going with an RSeat but I was told to skip them and get something from Sim-lab. I'm definitely going with them now but I need to make my mind up on which one, lol.

Yeah, the adapter is actually a bit of a snag.

I think I've seen an adapter sold elsewhere (and separately) recently, but SimRacingBay has been the go-to place to get your servo if you are planning to convert Fanatec rims. His machined adapters are ace, and he only sells them with a purchase of motor, or full kit. That's where I got mine from (Slovenia to my door in 2 days. Thumbs up).

I hadn't seen those new lower cost Sim-Lab rigs. Very nice indeed!

The lowest cost one doesn't have any pedal height adjustment, so that would be hard for me to recommend, but the others seem great. They offer a wheel deck option now too, so you could use it with your G27 now, and get the plate for whatever wheel you buy later.

 

[Big Takeover]

Way ahead of you there, BT. Bought these for £6 for two pairs from some fat billionaire's chavvy sportswear shop for exactly that purpose.

And gloves-wise I use thin rubber-palmed work gloves. They last for ages unless you use an alcantara rim, which soon makes mincemeat of them.

Yours say "Hot Tuna" on them, so clearly they are the winner!

 

[Dave_6]

Yeah, the adapter is actually a bit of a snag.

I think I've seen an adapter sold elsewhere (and separately) recently, but SimRacingBay has been the go-to place to get your servo if you are planning to convert Fanatec rims. His machined adapters are ace, and he only sells them with a purchase of motor, or full kit. That's where I got mine from (Slovenia to my door in 2 days. Thumbs up).

I hadn't seen those new lower cost Sim-Lab rigs. Very nice indeed!

The lowest cost one doesn't have any pedal height adjustment, so that would be hard for me to recommend, but the others seem great. They offer a wheel deck option now too, so you could use it with your G27 now, and get the plate for whatever wheel you buy later.

The GT2 caught my eye first, but I think it's between the GT1 and the P1. They look more suitable for a DD wheel and are more adjustable than the GT2. Yeah the wheel deck option is right up my alley and all I would have to do is buy a couple brackets from them once I got an OSW.

 

[paskowitz]

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[Dave_6]

I was really missing this thread but I'm glad to see it's back. A Discord for us would be cool though the one above sends me to an expired invite. Are any of you guys members of Racedepartment?

 

[seattle6418]

Camon, dont tell me you guys use gloves and shoes for sim racing... I´ve always thought that was over the top... always used bare hands and socks if it´s cold enough.

In the summer, with temps going to almost 100 i don´t know how can you use gloves... unless everybody is in the UK and US with cold homes despite the weather.

 

[marvelharvey]

Oh, we're back! :O

I was really missing this thread but I'm glad to see it's back. A Discord for us would be cool though the one above sends me to an expired invite. Are any of you guys members of Racedepartment?

Yes and I believe I'm "mharvey".

Anyway, it's definitely a good idea for PC Sim Racing Thread regulars to link up outside of GAF though, as the future is uncertain. If anyone needs me on iRacing, I'm there as "Max W Harvey".

Camon, dont tell me you guys use gloves and shoes for sim racing... I´ve always thought that was over the top... always used bare hands and socks if it´s cold enough.

Up until quite recently I remember laughing at sim racers wearing gloves/race shoes, thinking that it was one step too far into geek-dom. However, after upgrading my wheel last month and just receiving some Heusinkveld pedals, I can see the people I once mocked were just being practical. Gloves are needed to slow the wear alcantara trim and shoes are needed to protect your feet when applying 300lbs of pressure.

Someone wearing gloves for a DFGT wheel though? They certainly deserve all the ridicule we can give them!

 

[Ocho]

Camon, dont tell me you guys use gloves and shoes for sim racing... I´ve always thought that was over the top... always used bare hands and socks if it´s cold enough.

In the summer, with temps going to almost 100 i don´t know how can you use gloves... unless everybody is in the UK and US with cold homes despite the weather.

I use gloves but because I don't want a sweaty racing wheel. Rather the gloves take the brunt of it. Also racing gloves are light compared to moto gloves, np.