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Switch was the best-selling product online over Thanksgiving

sublimit

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Nintendo reigned supreme over the consumer frenzy that dominates the tail end of November, with the Switch being the best-selling product online over Thanksgiving.

According to Adobe's Digital Insights Initiatives, the Switch took the top spot on Thanksgiving, Black Friday, and Cyber Monday, despite not offering widespread discounts.

The Switch also came in at number three on November 22, and number four on November 25. The only other console to make an appearance in the top five during the period was the PlayStation VR at number four on November 22, and the Xbox One X which reached number three on November 25.

Although PlayStation 4 enjoyed record breaking sales, shifting more consoles on Black Friday than ever before in its 23-year history, the heavy discounts were not enough to compete with the innate appeal of the Switch it would seem.

The popularity of the Switch over the holiday period came as a surprise to investment firm Jefferies. In a note to clients picked up by Business Insider, analyst Atul Goyal said: "Even we had not expected such a record-breaking streak. This strong sales is going to create a robust installed base, which is where games software will monetise over the next five to seven years."
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articl...best-selling-online-product-over-thanksgiving
 

shira

Member
which is where games software will monetise over the next five to seven years

There better be a hardware upgrade/new model in 2-3 years
idk if i'll be able to handle 720p in 2025
 
When will we get November NPD sales numbers? Really excited to observe the Switch' development in the West. In Japan it's more of a 'how high can it go?', while western marketspace is a real battlefield.

PSVR selling well is also a nice surprise. Still waiting on that VR-exclusive SAO-game, Bandai Namco ...

There better be a hardware upgrade/new model in 2-3 years
idk if i'll be able to handle 720p in 2025

2025 would be 8 years from now, so ... ヽ(*´∀`)ノ
 

sublimit

Banned
Eh, so this report was based on social media buzz?

From Adobe Digital Insights site:
The Adobe Digital Insights 2017 Holiday Predictions Report and Holiday Actuals Report are based on aggregate and anonymized data via the Adobe Analytics and Adobe Experience Cloud. Adobe Analytics measures 80% of online transactions at the largest 100 U.S. web retailers (Source: Internet Retailer 2017). The report model is based on analysis of 1 trillion visits to over 4,500 retail websites and 55 million SKUs. Product analysis is based on more than 6 million orders per day on average during November and December. Companion research is based on surveys with 1,100+ U.S. consumers and 440+ U.S. retailers that sell online and 12 million social mentions from August 1st–October 11th 2017.
 
The good news is consoles are selling like hotcakes.

This widens the audience for game makers and should improve system support.
 

entremet

Member
When will we get November NPD sales numbers? Really excited to observe the Switch' development in the West. In Japan it's more of a 'how high can it go?', while western marketspace is a real battlefield.

PSVR selling well is also a nice surprise. Still waiting on that VR-exclusive SAO-game, Bandai Namco ...



2025 would be 8 years from now, so ... ヽ(*´∀`)ノ

Doesn't NPD miss Walmart? That's a huge thing to miss if you want an accurate picture.
 
It’s good to have different consoles as top selling. It makes the market healthier. I really hope Xbox One X had great sales, as well as PSVR. Keep innovation thriving.
 
Switchs value proposition is excellent, as is PS4s but for a different audience. But If two consoles or even three can see very robust sales regularly in the US, that is very good for the industry. Hope it keeps up this way.
 

sublimit

Banned
Switchs value proposition is excellent, as is PS4s but for a different audience. But If two consoles or even three can see very robust sales regularly in the US, that is very good for the industry. Hope it keeps up this way.

It's also interesting to notice that the Switch is a console that is focused more on single player games rather than online-only,games as a service types of games. Which proves wrong all those who say that interest in single player games is declining.
 

Unknown?

Member
From Adobe Digital Insights site:
Yeah so of course this is the case then. PS4 was sold out during BF-Cyber Monday online. I mean you expect me to believe PSVR outsold PS4 during this period? Only online or where the console was unavailable.
 

Z..

Member
I find this very hard to believe. Are we strictly talking the US here or something?
 
I find this very hard to believe. Are we strictly talking the US here or something?

I'm gonna agree with you...I'm not gonna go as far as to say "Fake News" but it may be skewed. The monetary entry point for the Switch is still pretty steep compared to the other two home consoles. Cash is King in most households.
 

Z..

Member
I'm gonna agree with you...I'm not gonna go as far as to say "Fake News" but it may be skewed. The monetary entry point for the Switch is still pretty steep compared to the other two home consoles. Cash is King in most households.

My beef ain't solely with the switch being #1, but also the fact that the X1 made the list, too. If this us US/NA only, it makes perfect sense, otherwise this is extremely hard to believe.
 

AngeloB

Neo Member
My guess is that most gamers already have a PS4/Xone, very few would find it worthy to upgrade to PS4 Pro/XOneX, so they got the Switch.

Also, many people use Black Friday for Christmas shopping, so, what's the best console for kids and that was designed to be better shared? Nintendo Switch.
 
My beef ain't solely with the switch being #1, but also the fact that the X1 made the list, too. If this us US/NA only, it makes perfect sense, otherwise this is extremely hard to believe.

It’s only US.

I pointed this info out yesterday, but was called a Ninty Troll for it.
 
Almost bought the kids a Switch but thankfully they changed their lists and asked for a One S. Really didn't want to pay $100 for contollers.
 

LDAF

Member
Although PlayStation 4 enjoyed record breaking sales, shifting more consoles on Black Friday than ever before in its 23-year history

2013 was 23 years ago, wow. Really makes ya think.
 

LordRaptor

Member
Should be on the title. Why oh why is this always a problem with US only threads? Every single time...

...what, because of all those other countries in the world that celebrate a holiday called "thanksgiving"?
Like, that should be a pretty clear indicator as to what region is being discussed, as much as a new story about the NFL is probably talking about America

If the topic was "Record sales during Golden Week" I wouldn't be going "WTF? Why don't you specify that Golden Week being a Japan Only thing is talking about Japan????"
 

sublimit

Banned
Should be on the title. Why oh why is this always a problem with US only threads? Every single time...

I just carried the news and the title from the article. There was nothing in it that stated it was about NA only so i had no reason to change it.

For the record i'm European. :p
 

Z..

Member
...what, because of all those other countries in the world that celebrate a holiday called "thanksgiving"?
Like, that should be a pretty clear indicator as to what region is being discussed, as much as a new story about the NFL is probably talking about America

If the topic was "Record sales during Golden Week" I wouldn't be going "WTF? Why don't you specify that Golden Week being a Japan Only thing is talking about Japan????"

The "Thanksgiving" handle could be and frequently IS used as an umbrella to reffer to the whole late November/Black Friday sales period in general regardless of territory, I have often encountered such headlines in UK press as well as the 3 other EU countries where I have lived. They are significantly more common than you seem to think, it's not nearly as obvious as you believe.
Your analogy is fallacious by default, especially so since you chose Golden Week as an example when the term "Golden Week" has been steadily overtaken by the Chinese celebration rathern than the JP one as far as relevance on an international level goes. Of course, this does not apply inside the videogame world but it's a very weird choice when you could easily have used much better examples such as Bastille Day sales.

I understand what you mean, of course, but the language used is highly ambiguous and "best-selling product online" is a very easily misunderstandable term without the appropriate caveats for contextualization.


Edit : see post #28 for confirmation that your logic was flawed.
 

Unknown?

Member
I wouldn’t really say bomba. The PS4 has sold extremely well. I didn’t get one because I already have one... but it still has to be somewhat disappointing for Sony.
They sold out of their entire online allotment before the data in this article was tracked. The only disappointment from them, I’m sure, is they underestimated how well they actually would sell.
 

sublimit

Banned
The "Thanksgiving" handle could be and frequently IS used as an umbrella to reffer to the whole late November/Black Friday sales period in general regardless of territory, I have often encountered such headlines in UK press as well as the 3 other EU countries where I have lived. They are significantly more common than you seem to think, it's not nearly as obvious as you believe.
Your analogy is fallacious by default, especially so since you chose Golden Week as an example when the term "Golden Week" has been steadily overtaken by the Chinese celebration rathern than the JP one as far as relevance on an international level goes. Of course, this does not apply inside the videogame world but it's a very weird choice when you could easily have used much better examples such as Bastille Day sales.

I understand what you mean, of course, but the language used is highly ambiguous and "best-selling product online" is a very easily misunderstandable term without the appropriate caveats for contextualization.


Edit : see post #28 for confirmation that your logic was flawed.

Yup as someone who's living in mainland Europe i can confirm this is true.Especially in the last 3-5 years.
 

Hellshy.

Member
Sony already said par had their best ever black Friday with ps4 and yet this lost only shows psvr on it. Does anyone actually thing the psvr outsold the ps4 online?
 

LordRaptor

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The "Thanksgiving" handle could be and frequently IS used as an umbrella to reffer to the whole late November/Black Friday sales period in general regardless of territory, I have often encountered such headlines in UK press as well as the 3 other EU countries where I have lived.

No it isn't.
If you see reports about "Thanksgiving sales" in the UK press, it is referring to Sales in America.
If you see reports about sales in other territories "In the thanksgiving period" it is in US media contextualising that for their audience.

I guarantee you that when the PAL charts come out tomorrow, they will not be referring to "thanksgiving" anywhere in them, because they are a European based reporting organisation, and referring to European sales figures.

Likewise in the context of videogame sales, "Golden Week" is always referring to Japanese sales during Japanese Golden Week.

This isn't like "Topic title: Free game on PSN!" (US only) thanks a fucking bunch not specifying Us only OP.
 

Bento

Member
Didn't know what thread to post this in so I'll just use this one; Just bought a Nintendo Switch and would like to know if I should expect a Christmas Holiday sale on say... Zelda perhaps? Does Nintendo usually do E-shop sale during this time or should I just get it full price right now? :p
 
Didn't know what thread to post this in so I'll just use this one; Just bought a Nintendo Switch and would like to know if I should expect a Christmas Holiday sale on say... Zelda perhaps? Does Nintendo usually do E-shop sale during this time or should I just get it full price right now? :p

Very unlikely they'll drop the price anytime soon.
 

Z..

Member
No it isn't.

Yes, it is.

Am I doing this right? This how arguing works, right? You can just say "no" when someone tells you their personal experience of something is different (which has now been corroborated by another EU poster, who just so happens to be the OP) and you immediately win the argument, correct?

Don't know why I'm bothering, to be honest, it's not like this is going anywhere or is relevant to the topic at hand, anyway...
 

LordRaptor

Member
Yes, it is.

Am I doing this right? This how arguing works, right? You can just say "no" when someone tells you their personal experience of something is different (which has now been corroborated by another EU poster, who just so happens to be the OP) and you immediately win the argument, correct?

Except I am also an EU poster, and you cut out the entirety of the follow up statement that was the actual argument.

If when the PAL charts come out tomorrow it says anywhere "thanksgiving" then you have a point. If it doesn't you're wrong.

Fair?
 

JP

Member
Except I am also an EU poster, and you cut out the entirety of the follow up statement that was the actual argument.

If when the PAL charts come out tomorrow it says anywhere "thanksgiving" then you have a point. If it doesn't you're wrong.

Fair?
To be honest, the "Thanks Giving" holiday is actually a pre-christian holiday to offer thanks for the harvest that is believed to have begun in England.

It is still practiced in parts of Europe, Asia and America. Although the dates aren't always the same the generally do happen around the same time of the year in many of the places although not all of them.

Although it is certainly fair to expect an article such as this to be about the American version, I don't think that it's an issue for people to point out that they would have appreciated confirmation in the title or in the original post, even if it wasn't required for you.
 
The only other console to make an appearance in the top five during the period was the PlayStation VR at number four on November 22.

PS VR? Thats pretty shocking.


Wow. That's amazing.

Even with $199 ps4s

The PS4 is four years old, the market for potential buyers is so much smaller than it would be for the Switch which is less than a year old. Kind of misleading comparison.
 

CariusD

Member
The only other console to make an appearance in the top five during the period was the PlayStation VR at number four on November 22.

PS VR? Thats pretty shocking.

I'm more surprised they had the stock to make that happen. The Skyrim bundle was selling out in the stores near me the day the deal started.
 

TGO

Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
Wait...PSVR sold more than the PS4 yet the PS4 sold out of all its online allocation.
That doesn't sound right at all.
 

Unknown?

Member
The only other console to make an appearance in the top five during the period was the PlayStation VR at number four on November 22.

PS VR? Thats pretty shocking.




The PS4 is four years old, the market for potential buyers is so much smaller than it would be for the Switch which is less than a year old. Kind of misleading comparison.
Because PSVR was selling less than the PS4. It didn’t sell out ONLINE(which is what this data is, not retail) as quickly. By Thursday online stock of $199 PS4s were drying up and by Friday it was sold out at every online retail outlet. That’s why PSVR in this data is higher. PSVR certainly didn’t sell as much as PS4.

Wait...PSVR sold more than the PS4 yet the PS4 sold out of all its online allocation.
That doesn't sound right at all.
This data doesn’t count the full week. This data starts after the PS4 sold out.
 
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