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Fate/Grand Order |OT| That's Hell You're Walking Into
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Pejo
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Congrats! Not a waifu but one of the better waveclear lancers. Well maybe a waifu, depends on your taste really.
What are you guys farming in this event so far?
I went against my better judgement and did a 10 pull and got...nothing. Awesome. I'm a bit late to the event since I had other stuff going on and ended up missing a day. I hope that won't kick my ass later. I'm not even gonna bother with Nero since I know I'm not getting her. I'll just keep saving for that chance to get Scath. Congrats to everyone who ended up with something on this banner...
duongsn
Member
I'm farming Gear at Scathach's Stage, Emiya consumes tons of the thing for his skills T_T it sometimes drop Heart too, so I'm gonna farm it until I get 2 Star of Altria, then switch to the final stage for maximum ahoge.
I decided to go against my plan again for some reason as I had hoped I'd get another saber for this event. Luckily, I ended up with Nero! Woot! My group is now complete and I can move forward with more vigor! Was able to grind it out and get Artoria Lily. Now, I just have to casually grind out for more stuff. I need mats to get Artoria Lily and Nero built up, but outside of that, it should be smooth sailing from here.
ATXAlchemy
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AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I GOT TAMA-CHAN! FROM A TICKET! My first summon ticket 5-star is Tama-chan.
Also, animation renewal. Her 1st/2nd form has completely different animations (except NP) from her 3rd form.
Had 27 tickets, took only 5 tickets to get her. Tried going for more by dumping the rest of my tickets, got the New Year 2016 5-star CE, 3* CEs, and Lancelot Berserker, and no more Tama-chan.
Already got Cat, so I have no business with Lance. One more sent to the stash list.
I GOT TAMA-CHAN! FROM A TICKET! My first summon ticket 5-star is Tama-chan.
Also, animation renewal. Her 1st/2nd form has completely different animations (except NP) from her 3rd form.
Had 27 tickets, took only 5 tickets to get her. Tried going for more by dumping the rest of my tickets, got the New Year 2016 5-star CE, 3* CEs, and Lancelot Berserker, and no more Tama-chan.
Already got Cat, so I have no business with Lance. One more sent to the stash list.
duongsn
Member
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I GOT TAMA-CHAN! FROM A TICKET! My first summon ticket 5-star is Tama-chan.
Also, animation renewal. Her 1st/2nd form has completely different animations (except NP) from her 3rd form.
Had 27 tickets, took only 5 tickets to get her. Tried going for more by dumping the rest of my tickets, got the New Year 2016 5-star CE, 3* CEs, and Lancelot Berserker, and no more Tama-chan.
Already got Cat, so I have no business with Lance. One more sent to the stash list.
Congrats! In JP my first 5 star from ticket was Vlad T_T Also I've borrowed a few support Tamamos to see her new animation, and it really is awesome! Though I wish they had swapped the extra attacks between her 1st/2nd form and her 3rd form...
Pejo
Member
Yea I've been on the Scat stage since wrapping up the Fous from farming Jeanne's stage. So much to buy with tubes. I tried fitting a few of those tube CE's in my lineup last night and it didn't go well for me, despite having a full team of sabers.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I GOT TAMA-CHAN! FROM A TICKET! My first summon ticket 5-star is Tama-chan.
Also, animation renewal. Her 1st/2nd form has completely different animations (except NP) from her 3rd form.
Had 27 tickets, took only 5 tickets to get her. Tried going for more by dumping the rest of my tickets, got the New Year 2016 5-star CE, 3* CEs, and Lancelot Berserker, and no more Tama-chan.
Already got Cat, so I have no business with Lance. One more sent to the stash list.
Congrats, man. Getting that 5* servant is like winning the lottery in this game. Supposedly she's pretty good, too.
I wanted to be grinding out this event, but instead I've been farming EXP cards and the like. I realized that at some point I wouldn't be able to do the daily event mission because the level starts ramping up some insane amount. The one from yesterday had a unit with over 500k HP. I don't even want to imagine what today's is gonna look like. So the odds of beating them is going to go down substantially in the coming days and that mean I won't be getting that massive influx of Artoria points. Oh well, if I can somehow get to at least a couple of Artoria Lily cards, then I'll be happy.
At least by the time this is done, I should have Nero capped out.
Pejo
Member
A reminder - if you're largely ignoring the event, don't put any resources into Saber Lily (unless she's your waifu). This is the only event where she's useful. Also, it might be still a good idea to farm the 20-30AP nodes if you can clear them to get the shop stuff. You won't be able to clear it but you can at least get the harder to get materials.
Heh, I haven't put anything into Artoria Lily so far because I don't need to use her to move on with content. As long as I have Artoria Alter, Nero, and Friend Girlfriend X I can take out some of the harder content. This is why I've been working on Nero mostly. I've already ascended her twice, and I'm almost to the third ascension. I want to keep going with the event so that I can get some mats to ascend Artoria Alter to 80. I wish they wouldn't have made the daily fights gradually get harder. It just means the most haxed folks will be the only ones to make it to the end. I can't even imagine getting 3 million Artoria Points....
Pejo
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Man, even with my pretty stacked team, some of this Scat stage farming gets a little hairy. I can't imagine easily completing this with less.. The one nice thing is that if I can survive to round 3 with my first line, I can 1-shot the whole line with 3 NPs in a row. But there's a lot of RNG between me and that. Best I've done was 7 turns. Worst was in the 20s.
Only the awesome folks are gonna be able to farm this event until the end. I'm getting close to the cap for me and once I hit it, I wonder if I'll continue to bother with this event. I got Artoria Lily, so there's not much else to get outside of Ascension mats. There are still a few days left, so we'll see how it goes.
duongsn
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With your roster, I think you could clear Scat stage pretty easily with Saber Alter (MLB Purely Bloom), Altera (Star of Altria) and Okita (MLB Purely Bloom), leaving the back line stuffed with Crimson Land of Shadow for more tube drop. I used to farm it pretty smoothly using a similar team but with OG Saber instead of Saber Alter.
Pejo
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Yea I don't have major problems, but sometimes RNG just screws me by giving me lots of buster/quick card selections instead of Arts, and especially those damn helter skelters focusing down one of my units while I'm trying to build NP. Funny enough, I've used a level 100 Okita friend, and my Saber Alter still out-damages her on a single target (about 700K on her NP vs 200-300k per Okita). Seeing these kinds of numbers feels pretty good:
Pejo
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The event Star of Altria CE (the red one with MHX on it) works from the back row and for the whole party. It's a huge boost by the time you get your second one.
*Edit* - Also, if you full limit break the Bloom one, you get an extra boost from it for whoever has it equipped.
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Oh shit! I didn't know that. I need to farm for that. I don't have one yet, but good to know. I think what that boost, I'll be able to beat some of the harder things.
*EDIT:* Too bad the quest that drops it is hard as hell to do since it's Jeane as the boss. She's hard as shit to kill unless you go with Berserkers and even then they get eaten up by everything else. I guess I'll have to brave that again because that card would be awesome as my Artoria Alter is badass and eats face during this event.
*EDIT:* Too bad the quest that drops it is hard as hell to do since it's Jeane as the boss. She's hard as shit to kill unless you go with Berserkers and even then they get eaten up by everything else. I guess I'll have to brave that again because that card would be awesome as my Artoria Alter is badass and eats face during this event.
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Pejo
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I actually got both of mine from Altrium Points, not drops. 200,000 and 400,000 are the lowest 2 to get. Keep in mind, any support you bring with it equipped gives bonuses to the whole party too.
https://fate-go.cirnopedia.org/quest_event_us_20180104.php#artorium
What does your stable of 4*/5* servants look like btw?
I get so few Artoria Points that I'll barely get to 400k when all is said and done. Don't like how they set this event up.
My crew is currently Zhuge (70), Artoria Alter (80), Nero (70), Santa Artoria (80), Nobunaga (80), Emiya (70) that are rotated out due to the event. I keep Caesar, Saber Dude in Armor, and Artoria Lily in the back to help with bonus points. I considered leveling up Artoria Lily, but decided against it as I have Nero. I'd like to get Cu (60) in my crew somewhere, but he may be too weak for what's going on.
duongsn
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Wow Saber Alter's NP power sure is no joke :s
The first 200,000k point is very painful to farm, but once you get some Purely Bloom and Star Of Altria, you can switch to 40AP stages and rack up points rather quickly, especially when you already have Saber Alter and Nero. Though I do think that the farm for ahoge is definitely worse than Honnoji point.
It's amazing how many refreshes I've had on this event so far. I've gotten better at farming the 40 AP mission with Jeane, but it gives so very few Artoria Points. I've gotten a ton of the black currency things, though. Bought all of the 4* EXP cards and all of the +ATK cards. I'm hoping I can get more of these hearts so I can Ascend Emiya. I haven't figured out the need for more than 2 Bloom cards, because they only work for the character who equips them. I guess it's all good. My Artoria Alter kicks so much ass in this event. It's also cool to see Nero doing well, too. Her stats are fairly low for a 4* saber.
duongsn
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You get 5 copies of Bloom from Altrium point and event shop, so turn them into a MLB Bloom that give +200% ATK to whoever equips it. The CE that you need to have many separate copies is Star of Altria, 2 of them equal one Purely Bloom, but the effect is applied to your whole team. This is late-farming talk, but eventually you will have 6 copies of Star of Altria, so one MLB'd and one normal copy give your team +150% ATK, which boosts your farming effciency even more.
Also, have you done Nero's interlude quest yet? Her 3rd skill makes her really durable.
Also, have you done Nero's interlude quest yet? Her 3rd skill makes her really durable.
deanote666
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What's the best mission to farm the mirrors at, besides the Tesla round?
How do you get them to be 200%? I leveled them up to 20, but they're still only 100% to someone who has it equipped. I don't have the Master level to have two of the Star of Artoria equipped. I can only have one right now. Best I can get per unit is 150% unless there's some other way to get a boost. If there is a way to merge things to get more percentage out of them, I'm all ears.
I just got her, so I haven't looked at doing her event stuff yet as I've been mainly farming the event. I fed her some ATK cards that have boosted her ATK up a bit. I wish hers was higher like Artoria Alter. Not even sure why I'm even bothering with the event at this point as I have almost everything so far and tons of extra currency to buy gold level up statues. I could probably stop and be fine at this point.
ATXAlchemy
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Feed a Pure Bloom into a Pure Bloom, and you'll break it's level limit. Do that 3 more time. So you need 5 copies total to get a maxed out limit break.
Breaking a CE 4 times will imrpove its effects a bit. Though in some cases (like events effects), the effects can be big. "Appearance up", "More Enemies", and "Special Attack Up" effects can be pretty crucial in completing events.
For drop increase effects, you're most likely better off not combining since the effect only usually increases by one (usu. 1 drop increase -> 2 drop increase).
Level of the CE doesn't matter when it comes to its effects. Level only increase the stats of the CE. Those stats can be pretty significant (2000 ATK @ Lv 100 is nothing to scoff off) but most people don't even level up their CEs since getting to Level 100 takes a LOT of FP (million FPs, probably), and there's no real way to get CE Exp Cards.
FWIW, a Lv40+ 5-star CE already has about 50% of its Lv100 stats, and only needs about 1m EXP. While a Lv100 card would need 16.6m total.
duongsn
Member
Sadly, if you want mirror/len, it's either Tesla or TamaCat.
It depends on your need, really. For me, my guys and gals eat heart and gear like crazy, so I'm still munching apple to farm Scathach stage even after reaching 2m Altrium.
Damn I never knew a lv100 CE would take that much EXP. I started to get into making CE bomb like 2 months ago, and now I only have one fodder that's worth 2m EXP. To think I would need 7 more to max lv a CE...*shudders*
Pejo
Member
Welp, I'm a few more runs from completely clearing out the shop. Still sitting at around 1.2 mil points though, so I sincerely doubt I'll get that Lore at 2 mil. I'm pretty happy with the Talons and Hearts I got in this event so far, though I'm bummed I didn't get more gears. I still need a solid 30 of those, plus I was hoping to be able to grind horseshoes a bit, but I need the gears more. I was also hoping for a free rare prism from burning the extra Saber Lily (if you were a week 1 player), but nope, just a few regular MP.
Such is life.
I think the next servant I really want is Cu Alter, so I have quite a bit of time to save. I will probably drop some Quartz along the way though, pulling is what makes the game fun after all.
Such is life.
I think the next servant I really want is Cu Alter, so I have quite a bit of time to save. I will probably drop some Quartz along the way though, pulling is what makes the game fun after all.
I have to disagree with this. Pulling in this game is a lesson in frustration and I hate doing it. I've almost never gotten anything worth talking about the rates of getting anything are low as hell. If I could avoid pulling in this game, I would and I don't see how anyone could get anything out of it here. In other games, I feel like we have a better shot at getting something good, but not this game. They know folks have no damn self control, too, so I doubt this stuff is gonna change anytime soon. If the combat stuff wasn't fun, I would have dropped this game a long time ago.
duongsn
Member
Fun is subjective after all. For me, the joy of playing gacha games lies first in pulling characters, and FGO does quite a good job at enticing me to pull. To compare, I have been playing Puzzle & Dragon for almost 4 years (though I mostly just log in for daily reward nowadays). In that game I can only decide who I want to pull based on their character art and play style, because P&D is literally just a series of stages with nonexistent backstory. Contrast to FGO, we have a nice storyline, both in main quests and events, giving characters time to show off their personality and ability (I never knew I wanted Tesla until I played London, didn't get him though), not to mention the awesome voice acting and animation. My point is, there are a lot of reasons for wanting to pull here, even the low rate does make rare servants you get much more precious
Pejo
Member
I think the reason I like pulling in this game is that it's very straightforward. When you look at games like Fire Emblem Heroes, where the pulling has multiple levels of RNG to get a unit you want with the right stats.
You have to make it through:
-Getting the right color orb to pull from (not sure what the % of each color is, we'll say 20% since there's 5 orbs)
-Getting a 5* unit (around 6-8%)
-Getting an on banner unit (50% of that)
-Getting favorable stats (usually there's at least 2 variations that are considered favorable, so 20% chance)
In tihs game, the rates are worse, 1% for 5*, 3% for 4*, but when you get it, you know exactly what you're getting.
There are also no additional grinds (yet) like FFBE has, with getting a unit, then enhancing the unit, then gearing the unit, then getting other units just to grind out trust mastery for gear for the unit.
When I pull Cu Alter, I have Cu Alter. It's a linear grind for XP, it's a linear (albeit long) grind to max skills. The only "gear" is CE, which are either given free in events (pretty standard across gacha) or in the gacha itself.
Anyways, that's the fun in getting the character. The chance is rare, which sucks on paper but it makes you feel great when you get that lucky pull. And once you have the character, you know exactly how it's going to play out. Just my 2c.
I get what you're saying, but the odds are insanely bad to really get any good feeling out of it. I mean, it's like gambling. You pump a bunch of money into a low odds machine in hopes you hit that jackpot. It doesn't change the fact that the odds are shitty and you're ultimately being used. Of course you're gonna feel good whenever you hit the jackpot, because that's how gambling works. Even if I get something (which is extremely rare), I never feel all that great about it. The RNG decided to throw me a bone! Awesome.
Anyway, I do like the combat, so I keep playing this game. That part is fun, and outside of silly events, it doesn't ask much from you on a regular basis, which is fine. Unlike something like FFBE which wants you do silly stuff all the time for hours on end. I've been slowly cutting that out of my life since it eats up so much of my time, but even still, I don't feel bad about the pull rates in that game. FE:H isn't too bad, either, but recently trying to get New Years Camilla has been rough. First time I've had this kind of luck in that game.
I just wish pulling was better in this game. I've done so many damn pulls and have very few good servants and tons of trash.
Anyway, I do like the combat, so I keep playing this game. That part is fun, and outside of silly events, it doesn't ask much from you on a regular basis, which is fine. Unlike something like FFBE which wants you do silly stuff all the time for hours on end. I've been slowly cutting that out of my life since it eats up so much of my time, but even still, I don't feel bad about the pull rates in that game. FE:H isn't too bad, either, but recently trying to get New Years Camilla has been rough. First time I've had this kind of luck in that game.
I just wish pulling was better in this game. I've done so many damn pulls and have very few good servants and tons of trash.
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duongsn
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I instantly nope'd out of FEH when I saw random stat increase when levelling up. I can live with bad skill sets, but that kind of RNG feel like being trolled by the developer.
ATXAlchemy
Member
Thanks.
Nah, that heart's good. If there's anything I want changed on her animation, it'd be that her 3rd form use the same state-machine conditions as Medea/Caster™.
Most characters use a majorly positional state-machine. While Caster's Arts animations is majorly based on sequential state machine with some exceptions (usually if her Q/B cards are used).
Her AAA animation is Beam -> Ice -> Fire. But her Art card's animation will depend on where it is in the chain. The easiest way to see this is to sandwich someone (or use her NP in the middle) in her art cards. It will be Beam -> other char/NP -> Fire. For comparison, if you do this on Tamamo, it'll end up being Ice -> NP -> Ice.
If you borrow a support Caster™. Then do an interweaved AAA combo (own Art card -> support's Art card -> own Art card), its animation will be exactly the same as if it's one character using AAA combo (minus the Ex card of course).
This sequencial state machine is pretty awesome for characters who only has ranged attacks and on a three-card setup.
I was debating whether to try for a second copy but just let it pass since she's normal gacha and I also want Hokusai. (Hokusai mission failed, btw)
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Pejo
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To be fair, the stat gain while leveling, while random, can only turn out a specific way at max level. But those max stats are entirely related to the state of the unit when you pulled it, which means you can still get some really bad stat banes. It's still a shitty system.
Anyways, 1/2 price embers are here, and I need many, many embers. I think I'm going to burn ~20 apples here if I can stand the slog. I have so many 4* and 5* characters still sitting at level 1, and thanks to the recent events I have the materials I need to ascend a lot of them. I really need to max out one of my AoE Berserkers to help with this farming.
duongsn
Member
Her 1st/2nd have many goofy attacks, like the rolling wheel and chun-li kick, so I think that heart beam might fit there better.
On the topic of state machine, I also wish Emiya (Archer) would use the same condition as Caster™. I have major headache trying to figure out how to trigger his ranged Art attack. It'd be much better if it is locked to the third Art card in the chain.
I will drown myself in hand farming too. The gacha hasn't been kind lately, so Im gonna max some of the more useful 2-3* Servants and hoard mana prism for Mona Lisa CE. My Emiya is 130k away from max bond, so hopefully I will got that done before Valentine event drops.
ATXAlchemy
Member
A3 is the one you're searching for. There's only two permutations with it.
I definitely thought that QBA would trigger it as well, but B2 fits as well. This kinda disproves my theory about an attack being a disengage if the one before it was of a non-engage, standing type.
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Ahhhhhhhhhhhh, this is the first time I didn't get the event CE card.
Chaldea's Famed Scholars (50% Charge + 30% HP Recovery Gain Up) is not exactly a ground breaking CE, but I find it annoying since Da Vinci and the Counterfeit Spirits is already a revival event. >___>
I did get three rainbow chests to drop, but all three were The Merciless One. Out of the three CEs in the event, it's the least useful one.
duongsn
Member
Too bad that there is no chain in which all three attacks are ranged :<
I had only one rainbow chest dropped and it was Chaldea's Famed Scholars, though I think The Merciless One is the best looking one among this event's bunch.
ATXAlchemy
Member
Damn, how are you able to actively play both JP and EN at the same time? LOL.
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We got more details about the Setubun event. Starts on Wednesday.
http://news.fate-go.jp/2018/setsubun/
*An non-broken copy has 10% Critical, and 10% Star Rate and 30 % NP charge. It'll probably be 15/15/50. We recently had Xmas 2016 revival, and it's event CE has 10~15% NP damage instead of Star Rate. And Star Rate is the shittiest effect you can get from a CE.
It's funny they think that you can raise servants under a week by unlocking Chaldea Gate quests @ 40 AP. Good luck with that, randomized enemy appearance ,low drop rates, and everything.
This does look like a shit event.
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We got more details about the Setubun event. Starts on Wednesday.
http://news.fate-go.jp/2018/setsubun/
*An non-broken copy has 10% Critical, and 10% Star Rate and 30 % NP charge. It'll probably be 15/15/50. We recently had Xmas 2016 revival, and it's event CE has 10~15% NP damage instead of Star Rate. And Star Rate is the shittiest effect you can get from a CE.
It's funny they think that you can raise servants under a week by unlocking Chaldea Gate quests @ 40 AP. Good luck with that, randomized enemy appearance ,low drop rates, and everything.
This does look like a shit event.
Pejo
Member
I need some advice from some of you that play JP or have done a lot of research into future characters for Global.
1. Is there ever a better pure tank unit than George? I'm thinking of Fou'ing him and grailing him to 90. That skillset looks really good to take the heat off of some berserkers, and the fact you get a huge break in team Cost seems like a really good bargain unit. Is there even a reason to have a tank if I can run 2 Jeanne/Tamamo or 2 Jeanne/Mily? I played around with those teams during the Saber Wars event and it seems entirely unkillable, though slow. Especially Jeanne/Jeanne/Medea Lily. I know eventually we fight stuff that can ignore invincible, which is where I'd imagine a tank unit is still handy to have.
2. For some unknown-to-me reason, the game has blessed me with every single Berserker up until this point in the game. I am leveling Tamacat due to liking her, and Lancelot after I can get some more Dragon Teeth. I already have Vlad at 90. Are any of Fran/Beo/Kintoki/Herc worth my resources, or should I just level them up as I go. My eventual go-to zerker will be Cu Alter once he's released. I don't personally see any reason to level the others, but I wanted some opinions here. I don't currently even use berserkers for any content except hands farming, so it seems like a bad allocation of ascension materials.
3. How much longer do I have until having 10/10/10 skills is pretty much mandatory to complete the hardest event challenges? I am already seeing where having Waver's skills on shorter cooldown would be a huge QoL improvement, but man I hate dumping all of those resources when I still have so many units to level up and ascend.
Also, EDarkness, I think the event they're talking about is in JP. Our next one is the Valentine's event which you can see a preview of here: https://fate-go.cirnopedia.org/quest_event_20160210.php#nav
1. Is there ever a better pure tank unit than George? I'm thinking of Fou'ing him and grailing him to 90. That skillset looks really good to take the heat off of some berserkers, and the fact you get a huge break in team Cost seems like a really good bargain unit. Is there even a reason to have a tank if I can run 2 Jeanne/Tamamo or 2 Jeanne/Mily? I played around with those teams during the Saber Wars event and it seems entirely unkillable, though slow. Especially Jeanne/Jeanne/Medea Lily. I know eventually we fight stuff that can ignore invincible, which is where I'd imagine a tank unit is still handy to have.
2. For some unknown-to-me reason, the game has blessed me with every single Berserker up until this point in the game. I am leveling Tamacat due to liking her, and Lancelot after I can get some more Dragon Teeth. I already have Vlad at 90. Are any of Fran/Beo/Kintoki/Herc worth my resources, or should I just level them up as I go. My eventual go-to zerker will be Cu Alter once he's released. I don't personally see any reason to level the others, but I wanted some opinions here. I don't currently even use berserkers for any content except hands farming, so it seems like a bad allocation of ascension materials.
3. How much longer do I have until having 10/10/10 skills is pretty much mandatory to complete the hardest event challenges? I am already seeing where having Waver's skills on shorter cooldown would be a huge QoL improvement, but man I hate dumping all of those resources when I still have so many units to level up and ascend.
Also, EDarkness, I think the event they're talking about is in JP. Our next one is the Valentine's event which you can see a preview of here: https://fate-go.cirnopedia.org/quest_event_20160210.php#nav
duongsn
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Well I started my JP account a few weeks after NA opened,
Anyway, I was shocked at 60 new notifications at daily quest section, only to be disappointed to see that they are still at the 40AP cost. And fatigue is such a stupid mechanic, suddenly our servants have to rest for 4 hours after one battle? LOL Maybe they will explain it in the event story, like its due to Shuten's drunkard aura or something.The event CE looks sweet art wise, so I'm gonna try to get one copy and see how things go at higher floors.
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I will try to give some answers based on my experience:
I'd say we already have a better pure tank that is Mash Kyrielight. St. George is pretty good, but he has the inherent weakness against Assassin and Berserker, and his NP's effect is wasted without Siegfried. On the contrary, class-wise, Mash is [jakuten wa nai], her skillset and NP benefit the whole team, bestowing def up, dmg cut, atk up and the occasional Taunt and Invul. Anyway, counting class relation, there are other comparable tanks to George like Leonidas, D'Eon and, in the future, Vlad III (Extra) and Passionlip. Anecdotally, my lv90 NP2 Vlad (Extra) in JP has been reaaally helpful so far.
The best think tank offers is Taunt skill. Besides Invul pierce, there are times you'd want to be sure that your main dmg dealer or healer don't get hit, like when facing a 3 crit-up chimera
Fran is a 'no', as Tamacat and Lancelot already take care of farming duty. The same goes for Beowulf, as he is completely outclassed by other berserkers with single target NP you already have. Now for the hard part, Kintoki and Herc are both quite good themselves. Golden can unleash crazy burst dmg with his Monstrous Strength-buffed NP, his 2nd skill helps him use his NP more often, and his 3rd skill gives him a little bit of endurance, both are things that (most) berserkers desperately need. His animation update will be out soon, and he's gonna be even more flashy. Herc is, well, Herc. He is the immortal soloist with his bond 10 CE, while Cu Alter is unkillable but require good team comp to support him.
Still, if you're gonna focus on Cu Alter in the end, I don't think you need to train any of those you listed, either. He's kinda a mix between Kintoki and Herc.
It seems the super hard challenges began to appear in Prisma Corp event, so I think... you still have until around August/September at the earliest?
Pejo
Member
Awesome, thanks for that info, very helpful! I don't know how I didn't think of Mash being a free 0 cost tank. Does she retain her skill levels when she gets her 4* upgrade, like is it safe to upgrade her now?
Regarding zerkers, looks good. I'll have to look up Kintoki's animation update and we'll see about ascending him. Otherwise I'll casually level him and Herc as I get extra stuff.
Now that Tamacat and Lancelot are leveled, I can 3 round embers with the bodysuit Mystic Code and a friend berserker. It's made farming so much easier. I've used about 35 apples already on 1/2 price embers to max out a bunch of servants, and still plan on doing a little more farming today.
I guess that means soon I can start focusing on skills. Going to level my Waver to 10/10/10 first just for the cooldown reduction, then I'm not sure. Probably just save up the mats to get Cu Alter to 10/10/10 ASAP or work on Mash. Other than just having more damage at your fingertips, are there any other units that see a huge benefit of skill levels (mostly cooldown related)? I know Cu (lancer) becomes an unkillable roach with 10/10/10, so he's my pet project but that's more just for fun.
duongsn
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Mash will keep everything when she's upgraded to 4*, mine is sitting at 10/10/10 already
Kintoki's animation update is soo good, especially that Golden tornado hnnng. I got burned out after like 20 apples though, so still a way to go until maxed bond Emiya.
Regarding skill level, for me some notable ones in NA are Lancer Altria Alter, Emiya, Nursery Rhyme, Scathach (as the bulk of their dmg depends on their skill activation), and on the support side, Nero Bride, David and Hans. I think generally servant with skill effect that lasts for 3 turns will see noticeable benefit from lower cooldown. And let us not forget Mozart, whose 3rd skill give 50 star at max level lol
She is a good support with great synergy in Art team, can act as the dmg dealer if you decide to use her skill on herself. And some time later her NP get an animation upgrade and it looks gorgeous.
Ironically it has become the most useful CE for Setsubun lol. Now that the event is actually out I think it's not really bad at all. Been casually climbing and I think I could reach 50th floor by the end of 2nd day.
Congrats! I haven't tried my luck so far as I'm afraid to...
EDIT: Decided to pull and got...crap...again. Man, I hate summoning in this game. There are so many servants I don't have at all and it just keeps getting worse. Terrible stuff. No more summoning for me until Scath.
EDIT: Decided to pull and got...crap...again. Man, I hate summoning in this game. There are so many servants I don't have at all and it just keeps getting worse. Terrible stuff. No more summoning for me until Scath.
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ATXAlchemy
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Mash is a support that can tank, rather than a tank that can support. IMO, she is the best protector precisely because she does not exactly need to tank, and speaking more broadly - her repertoire is far from being a one trick pony protection.
Trivia: Mash can reach the NP Gain Up limit (400%) with her Skill 3 at Lv10.
Speaking of Mash, I really wished that Part 2 would have another demi-Servant or something. I'm still hoping Mash will not turn into animu's Pikachu. 5 years after, and Mash is still the only 'main' partner. >____>
Maybe someday, we'll get a story line in FGO where we use Hakunon (and not just appearance in story), considering that Tama-chan is the same Fate/Extra Tama-chan.
I use it. But it Da Vinci & Counterfeit gives you a complete set of Merciless One, and non-maxed broken ones can be substituted by Battle of Camlann CE... and I have multiple max broken Camlann cards. So, still bitter, LOL.
The first boss being Katushika Ouei makes me really wish I threw more to get her (I think 60 gems and 6 tickets?). Ouei > Hokusai.
I'm loving the story so far. And it's nice seeing Archer Inferno at center stage plus other characters from Epic of Remnant III. I got like 4 out of 5 of the new characters at EoR III, lol.
I'll reserve my thoughts on how they're running the event until 100 or maybe 150 floors.
The chance to get a 5* in a single 10-pull is about 10%, and 30%~ for 4*. Supposedly, solo-pick-up is 50% chance of getting the PU Servant so in reality you have 5%/15% chance.
If you're going to aim for 5* with only a few sets/tickets, you should expect not getting the PU. Nothing wrong with potshots, but yeah, don't ruin your mood.
Also, please don't throw your phone (or do other dangerous thing) if you don't get Scath after throwing 600 or more gems. :<
- capable of stacking Def Up and Damage Cut on her own (though may sometimes require luck if you go for the higher end)
- Invincibility
- Taunt <--- least useful one
Trivia: Mash can reach the NP Gain Up limit (400%) with her Skill 3 at Lv10.
Speaking of Mash, I really wished that Part 2 would have another demi-Servant or something. I'm still hoping Mash will not turn into animu's Pikachu. 5 years after, and Mash is still the only 'main' partner. >____>
Maybe someday, we'll get a story line in FGO where we use Hakunon (and not just appearance in story), considering that Tama-chan is the same Fate/Extra Tama-chan.
I use it. But it Da Vinci & Counterfeit gives you a complete set of Merciless One, and non-maxed broken ones can be substituted by Battle of Camlann CE... and I have multiple max broken Camlann cards. So, still bitter, LOL.
The first boss being Katushika Ouei makes me really wish I threw more to get her (I think 60 gems and 6 tickets?). Ouei > Hokusai.
I'm loving the story so far. And it's nice seeing Archer Inferno at center stage plus other characters from Epic of Remnant III. I got like 4 out of 5 of the new characters at EoR III, lol.
I'll reserve my thoughts on how they're running the event until 100 or maybe 150 floors.
The chance to get a 5* in a single 10-pull is about 10%, and 30%~ for 4*. Supposedly, solo-pick-up is 50% chance of getting the PU Servant so in reality you have 5%/15% chance.
If you're going to aim for 5* with only a few sets/tickets, you should expect not getting the PU. Nothing wrong with potshots, but yeah, don't ruin your mood.
Also, please don't throw your phone (or do other dangerous thing) if you don't get Scath after throwing 600 or more gems. :<
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