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[GameAddict411]

Is 1060 really that good? Im planning on buying a 1070 but I only play on a 1080p monitor, is that overkill?

For today's games, the GTX 1070 is an overkill at 1080p, but a couple of years from now that won't be true. If you don't upgrade the monitor you are using than you have a great head room so you don't worry about upgrading the gpu. Now, with the prices of the gtx 1070 because of the data mining, I don't think it's worth it at all.

 

[Hopeford]

I want to get a 1060, but every time I'm about to I think "Hmm the 1070 is just a bit more expensive...I should save up for that instead. Wait, I've procrastinated so long now, maybe the 1070 will get a price drop? Any second now?" and then I'm back to not upgrading.

 

[Zen Aku]

Will the next generation GPU Volta be more powerful than the 1080ti?

Like let's say the 2080 vs the 1080ti

 

[LelouchZero]

Will the next generation GPU Volta be more powerful than the 1080ti?

Like let's say the 2080 vs the 1080ti

Most likely. Next generation flagships are always more powerful than their predecessors, even the Ti models.

 

[hoserx]

For today's games, the GTX 1070 is an overkill at 1080p, but a couple of years from now that won't be true. If you don't upgrade the monitor you are using than you have a great head room so you don't worry about upgrading the gpu. Now, with the prices of the gtx 1070 because of the data mining, I don't think it's worth it at all.

1070 is only "overkill" if you play at 60hz. Even at that point, some new games put the 1070 to work when you start maximizing settings at 1080p.

 

[SmartWaffles]

Will the next generation GPU Volta be more powerful than the 1080ti?

Like let's say the 2080 vs the 1080ti

The 2070 is probably going to be faster than the 1080Ti. Nvidia does a leap with every generation.

 

[ocean]

Wait over 1 in 20 steam users run a GTX 1060? The market skews higher end than I would have thought 👀

Or is that 6% of some specific subset (like 6% of users running DX12 GPUs instead of 6% of total Steam users)

 

[Dehnus]

AMD barely exists.

Well you try finding one, AMD GPUs are bought up faster than Gamers can try to get them. And those that they can get, are heavily overpriced. Miners buy them by the 100's sometimes. .

 

[chargermoss]

Well you try finding one, AMD GPUs are bought up faster than Gamers can try to get them. And those that they can get, are heavily overpriced. Miners buy them by the 100's sometimes. .

I found mine at hotstock.io - looks like they've added GPUs to their list of trackers

 

[glorious rommie]

1070 is only "overkill" if you play at 60hz. Even at that point, some new games put the 1070 to work when you start maximizing settings at 1080p.

i play at 60hz with a 1070 and assassins creed origins maxes it out pretty much at ultra.

 

[lukilladog]

I see nothing to celebrate here. Pc gamers just got pushed from mid-range to budget 1080p cards, not only mid-ranges are getting weaker and weaker compared to the real high end every generation but they are also becoming unaccesible for several people.

 

[Flyinmunky]

Im still rolling on a old i5 2500k, 8gb ram, standard 1tb hdd and a 580gtx @ 1080p. As i have a PS4 pro i just have not felt the need to upgrade my PC last few years. There has not been a PC exclusive that ive been hyped about enough to upgrade....

Saying that I will be doing a new build Q3-Q4 once VR hits wireless and more VR software is out.

 

[JareBear: Remastered]

1060 is great for the price

 

[lukilladog]

If some time ago someone told me he paid $300 to play at the same resolution of a four year old ps2 or ps3, turning down settings from day one, I´d tell him he got scammed. 750ti was the last half decent budget card.

 

[Blam]

1060 is a GOAT card.

 

[rokkerkory]

So most PCs are about 1X level?

 

[Pachi72]

To bad most monitors support Freesync vs G Sync

 

[LOLCats]

I see nothing to celebrate here. Pc gamers just got pushed from mid-range to budget 1080p cards, not only mid-ranges are getting weaker and weaker compared to the real high end every generation but they are also becoming unaccesible for several people.

Yep. Exactly. But Nvidia is likely celebrating.

 

[Mattyp]

So most PCs are about 1X level?

Less, I have a 1080 and struggle with 4K holding 60FPS on a shit load of games. The fact the X does 4K and native 30FPS and even 60FPS on some games in 4K is pretty mind blowing for the price. I couldn't see the majority of 1060s competiting in the 4K realm.

 

[HAdoubleRY]

Happy 1060 owner here. Easily running all games from like 2 years ago at 1080/144+. Haven't really tried any grqpically demanding recent releases yet but I just got resident evil 7 at the steam lunar sale so we will see

 

[ruvikx]

Less, I have a 1080 and struggle with 4K holding 60FPS on a shit load of games. The fact the X does 4K and native 30FPS and even 60FPS on some games in 4K is pretty mind blowing for the price. I couldn't see the majority of 1060s competiting in the 4K realm.

Graphical settings also play a role though, i.e. arguably (depending on how close someone sits to the monitor/TV) a game running at 1080p on ultra settings with better texture quality, draw distance etc. at a smooth 60 fps (or higher) is going to look better than a medium/low settings game at 4k. I don't dispute the One X is a powerful machine, but I find the recent emphasis on chasing magic 4k pixels > all other graphics options really bizarre.

Maybe it's just me, but I just cannot get aboard the "4k or bust" mentality which has gripped gaming over the past year or so, i.e. a mentality which portrays 1080p as a literal VHS-esque pile of crap. I'm not talking about you specifically, but the industry & media in general.

 

[Coulomb_Barrier]

1060 is great for the price

No it isn't, even at launch, £250 was too much for a custom. Now gor 6GB you gotta pay £300 minimum for a card that's on the same level as the old 980 or 290X. This tier of card would be £150 by now if Nvidia were pushed a bit in the market.

 

[Koala Driving a Ferrari]

No it isn't, even at launch, £250 was too much for a custom. Now gor 6GB you gotta pay £300 minimum for a card that's on the same level as the old 980 or 290X. This tier of card would be £150 by now if Nvidia were pushed a bit in the market.

That's true. AMDs development stagnation (in conjuntion with bitcoin farming) has dragged the PC GPU space into an absolute quagmire. If AMD was anything more than just a skeleton of their ATi past, then the GTX 1060 would now only barely be considered a budget GPU and Nvidia would be pushing another gen of video card hardware by now in order to compete.

That said, it's still a good time to buy a PC GPU as the market isn't going anywhere for 18 months and any hardware investment now will comfortably out perform the current gen consoles until the end of the gen and beyond. For the budget gamer, it's a fantastic time to be gaming on PC IMO.

 

[Mattyp]

Graphical settings also play a role though, i.e. arguably (depending on how close someone sits to the monitor/TV) a game running at 1080p on ultra settings with better texture quality, draw distance etc. at a smooth 60 fps (or higher) is going to look better than a medium/low settings game at 4k. I don't dispute the One X is a powerful machine, but I find the recent emphasis on chasing magic 4k pixels > all other graphics options really bizarre.

Maybe it's just me, but I just cannot get aboard the "4k or bust" mentality which has gripped gaming over the past year or so, i.e. a mentality which portrays 1080p as a literal VHS-esque pile of crap. I'm not talking about you specifically, but the industry & media in general.

I agree with you, but the majority of X games aren't running on low/medium settings was the only reason for the comparisson.

Playing Wolf 2 on my X on a Sammy 75" about 2.5 metres away compared to playing it with strixx1080 with a 4K Sammy the difference is honestly negligible, its running high if anything on the X. PC does ultra but ultra 4K on PC even with a 1080 card frame rate takes a hit and obviously doesn't cycle down resolutions on the fly like the xbox to maintain.

I'm not 4K or bust by any means that the media and hardware manufactures keep pushing but with good panels and equipment that can push the high-ultra settings the crispness is far greater than the 720p-1080p jump in my eyes. Is it worth doing 4K in anything but high to ultra settings? No, not at all. I'm with you take 1080p maxed any day of the week.

 

[llien]

At MSRP Vega 56 is so much more tempting.
I don't see 40watt difference between 580 and 1060 to be that much of a deal, especially with FreeSync literally costing nothing.

The new GPU gaming chip, code named Turing, is expected to be unveiled next month.

Reuters on Feb the 8th 2018


AMD's next is 7nm Vega, likely Q1 2019, if we are superoptimistic, perhaps Q4 2018.
Maybe mining craze will be over by that time.

 

[Lort]

If 1060 is so popular then it sure isnt the pc master race.

 

[iHaunter]

Another 970 user reporting in. Great card for 1080p not so great for vr, but I have no plans to upgrade.

Using a 970 right now.

Would get a 1080Ti if I could. Their prices are insane ATM.

 

[Louis Cyphre]

If 1060 is so popular then it sure isnt the pc master race.

Sure it is even with a 1060. Do games like Destiny 2 allow you to play at above 30fps?

 

[Lort]

Sure it is even with a 1060. Do games like Destiny 2 allow you to play at above 30fps?

“Something important to note with the above tests is that the only way to consistently get above 60 fps at 4K and nearly maxed out settings is to have 1080 SLI or 1080 Ti SLI—anything less and you're going to come up short. “

When reality hits in .. you claim to have 4k60 fps but you really drive a 1060.

 

[Palabragrís]

Why would you need to. It's still a great card.

Yep. Mine will stay with me for at least two more years. No real need to upgrade right now.

 

[pawel86ck]

For today's games, the GTX 1070 is an overkill at 1080p, but a couple of years from now that won't be true. If you don't upgrade the monitor you are using than you have a great head room so you don't worry about upgrading the gpu. Now, with the prices of the gtx 1070 because of the data mining, I don't think it's worth it at all.

GTX 1070 is an overkill at 1080p? You dont even have to wait a couple of years, because even right now the are demanding games that will require something better than GTX 1070 even at 1080p

kingdom come deliverange max settings
http://gamegpu.com/action-/-fps-/-tps/kingdom-come-deliverance-test-gpu-cpu
38 min-43 average fps

AC Origins
http://gamegpu.com/action-/-fps-/-tps/assassin-s-creed-origins-2017-test-gpu-cpu
53 m-59 a fps

GR Wildlands
http://gamegpu.com/action-/-fps-/-tps/ghost-recon-wildlands-2017-test-gpu
42 m-48 a fps

Evil Within 2
http://gamegpu.com/action-/-fps-/-tps/the-evil-within-2-test-gpu-cpu
45 m-55 a fps

ARK Sirvival
http://gamegpu.com/action-/-fps-/-tps/ark-survival-evolved-test-gpu-cpu
34 m-43 a fps

Sniper Ghost Warrior 3
http://gamegpu.com/action-/-fps-/-tps/sniper-ghost-warrior-3-test-gpu
54 m-72 a fps

Watch Dogs 2
http://gamegpu.com/action-/-fps-/-tps/watch-dogs-2-test-gpu
34 m-43 a fps

Quantum Break
http://gamegpu.com/images/stories/Test_GPU/Action/Quantum_Break_/new/qb_1920_off.png
43 m-50 a fps

Deus EX MD
http://gamegpu.com/action-/-fps-/-tps/deus-ex-mankind-divided-test-gpu
48 m-56 a fps

Of course with some tweaks it's possible to get 60fps at 1080p even with these games.

 

[DonF]

since this a gpu thread, can someone recommend me a good card for a 1080p/60fps setup? Im not really a pc guy, but my gtx750 ti is starting to show its age, the processor is a ryzen 5, thanks in advance.

 

[JareBear: Remastered]

No it isn't, even at launch, £250 was too much for a custom. Now gor 6GB you gotta pay £300 minimum for a card that's on the same level as the old 980 or 290X. This tier of card would be £150 by now if Nvidia were pushed a bit in the market.

Bitcoin has done what bitcoin has done. Not the 1060’s fault. They all should less but that’s not how capitalism works. In this market 300 bucks is what 175 bucks used to be. So, you’re wrong, in this market 1060 gets bang for the buck.

I love when tough guys come at me on GAF. I take on all comers. The truth will set you free

 

[JareBear: Remastered]

GTX 1070 is an overkill at 1080p? You dont even have to wait a couple of years, because even right now the are demanding games that will require something better than GTX 1070 even at 1080p

kingdom come deliverange max settings
http://gamegpu.com/action-/-fps-/-tps/kingdom-come-deliverance-test-gpu-cpu
38 min-43 average fps

AC Origins
http://gamegpu.com/action-/-fps-/-tps/assassin-s-creed-origins-2017-test-gpu-cpu
53 m-59 a fps

GR Wildlands
http://gamegpu.com/action-/-fps-/-tps/ghost-recon-wildlands-2017-test-gpu
42 m-48 a fps

Evil Within 2
http://gamegpu.com/action-/-fps-/-tps/the-evil-within-2-test-gpu-cpu
45 m-55 a fps

ARK Sirvival
http://gamegpu.com/action-/-fps-/-tps/ark-survival-evolved-test-gpu-cpu
34 m-43 a fps

Sniper Ghost Warrior 3
http://gamegpu.com/action-/-fps-/-tps/sniper-ghost-warrior-3-test-gpu
54 m-72 a fps

Watch Dogs 2
http://gamegpu.com/action-/-fps-/-tps/watch-dogs-2-test-gpu
34 m-43 a fps

Quantum Break
http://gamegpu.com/images/stories/Test_GPU/Action/Quantum_Break_/new/qb_1920_off.png
43 m-50 a fps

Deus EX MD
http://gamegpu.com/action-/-fps-/-tps/deus-ex-mankind-divided-test-gpu
48 m-56 a fps

Of course with some tweaks it's possible to get 60fps at 1080p even with these games.

I agree.
My 1070ti with a midrange i7 is not overkill at all for my BenQ 1080p monitor

If I want all the bells and whistles, especially supersampling (usually I like to push it to between 125-150 percent render scale) I get sub-60 on a number of games

 

[llien]

since this a gpu thread, can someone recommend me a good card for a 1080p/60fps setup? Im not really a pc guy, but my gtx750 ti is starting to show its age, the processor is a ryzen 5, thanks in advance.

Depends on settings you are after, if you are ok towning them down a bit, 580/1060 (6GB version) are more than enough.
The issue is, mining craze had terrible impact on GPU market, cards are nowhere to be found and overpriced at the same time.

 

[Spukc]

great card great price it was like 270 euro's or something

 

[Deleted member 325805]

I used a GTX 970 for years and it was good, but once I upgraded to a 144Hz monitor it started to feel weak, it couldn't hit that 100fps+ sweet spot in most games, and newer AAA games required me to turn down most settings to hit even 60fps. I recently built a new rig with a GTX 1080 and it's great, playing games like Rise of The Tomb Raider on Ultra at 144fps is amazing.

 

[DonJimbo]

Good to hear that

 

[Lort]

I used a GTX 970 for years and it was good, but once I upgraded to a 144Hz monitor it started to feel weak, it couldn't hit that 100fps+ sweet spot in most games, and newer AAA games required me to turn down most settings to hit even 60fps. I recently built a new rig with a GTX 1080 and it's great, playing games like Rise of The Tomb Raider on Ultra at 144fps is amazing.

You running at 1080p?

 

[Deleted member 325805]

You running at 1080p?

Yeah, went with 1080p/144Hz as it's easier to achieve than 1440p/144Hz and I'm not too arsed with resolution, the fluidity at 144Hz is a game changer though.

 

[Armorian]

I used a GTX 970 for years and it was good, but once I upgraded to a 144Hz monitor it started to feel weak, it couldn't hit that 100fps+ sweet spot in most games, and newer AAA games required me to turn down most settings to hit even 60fps. I recently built a new rig with a GTX 1080 and it's great, playing games like Rise of The Tomb Raider on Ultra at 144fps is amazing.

I dont belive you, no CPU can give you that framerate in ROTTR on ultra (valley)

 

[Deleted member 325805]

I dont belive you, no CPU can give you that framerate in ROTTR on ultra (valley)

About 100 there, it's a small part of the game so no big deal. Most of the game is around the 144fps mark.

 

[Freshmaker]

GTX 1070 is an overkill at 1080p? You dont even have to wait a couple of years, because even right now the are demanding games that will require something better than GTX 1070 even at 1080p


Deus EX MD
http://gamegpu.com/action-/-fps-/-tps/deus-ex-mankind-divided-test-gpu
48 m-56 a fps

Of course with some tweaks it's possible to get 60fps at 1080p even with these games.

LOL. The benchmark's misleading when you compare its fps to in game fps. I was hovering around 75fps at 1440p with my 1070. Prior to upgrading my GPU, my older 970 ran it at 1080p ultra settings just fine at a similar frame rate. (Though the ultra settings were kinda messed up at the time and you actually got better IQ from lowered settings in practice.)

 

[grfunkulus]

Graphical settings also play a role though, i.e. arguably (depending on how close someone sits to the monitor/TV) a game running at 1080p on ultra settings with better texture quality, draw distance etc. at a smooth 60 fps (or higher) is going to look better than a medium/low settings game at 4k. I don't dispute the One X is a powerful machine, but I find the recent emphasis on chasing magic 4k pixels > all other graphics options really bizarre.

Maybe it's just me, but I just cannot get aboard the "4k or bust" mentality which has gripped gaming over the past year or so, i.e. a mentality which portrays 1080p as a literal VHS-esque pile of crap. I'm not talking about you specifically, but the industry & media in general.

This is such a hard thing to argue because you dont know what size the average person with a 1060+ is using. If I’m sitting 4 feet (or less) from my 55 inch oled, 4K is definitely the most noticeable way to improve picture quality. Around the same distance from my monitor? Higher frame rate all the way. It really just depends

 

[krimston]

I found mine at hotstock.io - looks like they've added GPUs to their list of trackers

This one https://www.hotstock.io/us/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-ti-fe-founders-edition or by using the search in their app?

 

[Senua]

If 1060 is so popular then it sure isnt the pc master race.

When console gamers enter a PC thread lol.

 

[JareBear: Remastered]

When console gamers enter a PC thread lol.

X owners can find solace knowing their GPU rivals a 1060 but I think a lot more goes into it. PC cpu and hard drive speeds will typically crush the X and games on PC with comparative performance to the X will typically have better image quality on PC due to higher settings and more settings in general.

People may think load times don’t matter but if they saw how fast Witcher 3 loads off my SSD compared to on console they would understand

It’s a game changer

 

[Sailent]

AMD barely exists.

They are ashamed of sending data.

 

[JimboJones]

X owners can find solace knowing their GPU rivals a 1060 but I think a lot more goes into it. PC cpu and hard drive speeds will typically crush the X and games on PC with comparative performance to the X will typically have better image quality on PC due to higher settings and more settings in general.

People may think load times don’t matter but if they saw how fast Witcher 3 loads off my SSD compared to on console they would understand

It’s a game changer

Even off a mechanical drive PC still tends to load games quicker than consoles.

 

[Lort]

The xbox one x sometimes beats a 1070 way faster than a 1060, ( when running at 4k at least)
Says Wolf 2 http://www.guru3d.com/articles_page..._pc_graphics_analysis_benchmark_review,5.html

Far cry 5 https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/www.pcgamer.com/amp/far-cry-5-system-requirements/

Others etc http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1070-8gb-pascal-performance,4585-5.html

A 1060 is barey enough to run 1440 no chance to run 4k.